Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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[ ] In addition to the work crews, promise to push for very basic communication to be established between the two embassy guard details. (Greatly improves starting mood of the White Sky delegation for talks. Adds a Professional action to your list. Potential for failure, more strain on your time.)

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Got to say, really unimpressed with this Zheng guy. Wandering around picking fights might be fine in their own stomping ground, but showing up at sensitive diplomatic summit and trying to deliberately insult the other party is a really bad look.

I don't quite agree with this characterization of the Zheng's actions in this situation.

He released her. "He tried very hard, in the way of your people."

"What way is that?" Ling Qi asked warily.

"Titles, familiarity. You hold yourselves apart, unfamiliar rituals and order. He transgresses. But I am too old to beat my chest and howl at the moon for pride. Grandfather, 'old timer' neither is untrue," the old man said, withdrawing his hand back into the depths of his cloak.

By the first statement it seems like Mr Dream Zheng actually made an effort to be somewhat diplomatic in the imperial way. Then when he realized it wasn't working with Mr Crow he reverted to irreverent forms of speech he's more comfortable with to have a more straight forward conversation.
 
Okay, so since this is the final arc before next turn, we should also consider our professional actions with this.

  • Paying Respects: The Argent Peak Sect has been your home for two years now, and though you are growing apart from it, you still feel that connection. To it's disciples, to its Elders, to the caves and the vents and the trials. Spend some time showing your gratitude for lessons and connections [Maintains current relations with the Argent Sect Peak Sect on departure. 40% Chance to boost reputation with Argent Peak Sect by 1, and ???. Characters: Sima Jiao & Xin, Liao Zhu, various. +1 to Isolation and Power projects undertaken)

  • Root Inroads: Bian Ya, your occasional tutor and acquaintance is a fellow vassal of the Cai clan. Strengthen that relationship and see about learning more of your 'peers' (Information on Cai Vassals, particularly Bian and Xia, +1 to bond with Bian Ya. Character's Bian Ya, Ruan Shen)

  • Cathedral of Winds: A darkness lurks beneath this potent cultivtion site, an impure beast that corrupts and consumes the native spirit fauna. Delve into the black waters and seek the source. [Exploration at base 1d100 +40 if taken alongside Diviner's Path. Reward Thresholds at 60, 100, 180. Characters. Gan Guangli, Varies, choices given in action]

  • Starlit Labyrinth: Beast of starlight, crumbling and breaking, menacing the spirit court of beasts in your lands. You cannot yet know what lies within the glacier and the twisted tunnels of broken space that the beasts emerge from. [Exploration base 1d100+20. Reward Thresholds at 60, 120, 180, 240, 300. Characters: Beaver Buddies, Xia Lin, varies by choices in action]

So, we can take 4-6 actions, depending on if we sacrifice one personal action for the next 2 turns, which makes sense since we'll be focusing on the summit!!

Cathedral of Winds and Starlit Labyrinth can be pushed off til after the summit, and I'm pretty sure Yrs said he'll probably configure our actions to be more focused on the summit for now. So they might disappear.

So that leaves 2 actions right now, with 1 from Mountain Halls and one from action 2. That's 2 actions. That's 4 actions.

+1 Rep to Foundations Region. New Professional Option unlocked.

We got one from getting Foundations to +3. I'm not sure if it'll be fused with Mountain Halls or be an independent project. So unless we get any new actions, that's 5 possible actions, with room for one more.

However, we'll have to take our personal actions into account. So far, we only have two. Diviner's Path and maybe Eyes of Grudges.

[ ] The Eye of Grudges (Opens personal action to raise Inquisitive Eyes, and gain Persistence and Endings XP)

Now, for narrative and action economy reasons, I don't want to work on another successor immediately after FFS.

And for efficiency's sake, we'll want to take Diviner's Path with Cathedral of Winds together for the +40 bonus, unless the bonus can be banked so that we can do Cathedral of Winds later.

So if we have to pick a personal action, I'll pick Diviner's Path + Cathedral of Winds, since the Ith-ai attack gives it some urgency. So that's 6 professional actions for the next 2 turns.
 
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Nothing matters more right now than making sure the summit succeeds, and succeeds brilliantly. So we'll just have to suck it up and eat the professional action.

Motherfucking Xia Ren. Just by being in the vicinity she is fucking things up.
 
Got to say, really unimpressed with this Zheng guy. Wandering around picking fights might be fine in their own stomping ground, but showing up at sensitive diplomatic summit and trying to deliberately insult the other party is a really bad look.

I feel like the Zheng's whole shtick might be fun at times, but relies a lot on them being known as one of the strongest clans in the Empire to let them get away with ignoring niceties and annoying others. When dealing with groups from outside that society it's more likely to be actively harmful, but since they're in the Empire's interior it just doesn't come up often so they get away with it.
20,000 years of not giving a shit and punching things when it goes wrong tends to color your views on diplomacy.
 
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But would Xia Ren agree to that though? When establishing a rotation with the old crow might mean leaving holes in their defenses due to not knowing the capability of the other person? Would "compromising" any one side's safety be more important than leaving things as they are now so the lower realms can build the trust first before they try and merge both security procedures into a better cohesive whole?
 
By the first statement it seems like Mr Dream Zheng actually made an effort to be somewhat diplomatic in the imperial way. Then when he realized it wasn't working with Mr Crow he reverted to irreverent forms of speech he's more comfortable with to have a more straight forward conversation.
I read it the opposite, he tried very hard to give offense but it was based on imperial standards for what's offensive.
 
[X] In addition to the work crews, promise to push for very basic communication to be established between the two embassy guard details. (Greatly improves starting mood of the White Sky delegation for talks. Adds a Professional action to your list. Potential for failure, more strain on your time.)
 
[X] In addition to the work crews, promise to push for very basic communication to be established between the two embassy guard details. (Greatly improves starting mood of the White Sky delegation for talks. Adds a Professional action to your list. Potential for failure, more strain on your time.)
 
[X] In addition to the work crews, promise to push for very basic communication to be established between the two embassy guard details. (Greatly improves starting mood of the White Sky delegation for talks. Adds a Professional action to your list. Potential for failure, more strain on your time.)
 
Also, some interesting things I've noticed this chapter.

1. In the long run, we (and LQ) want to bring back the Weilu methods. Now, interestedly enough, both the Meng conservatives and the Imperial moderates are okay with that, they just need to be shown that, well, they're applicable in the current era and can work on a macro scale.

"It's good that you're not spineless about it, dancing around me with words," Wang Lian agreed. "Come lets get a cup of wine. "I don't disapprove of your method, I just don't think it works at scale."

"That there is more power in words than blades. That we, the Meng should be teachers and keepers of history. He is a deeply melancholy man, stemming from his belief that our ways can only fade, or at best, hold in the heartlands," Meng Dan said. "It is my Grandmother's belief that he might be swayed to our views. If it can be shown that the spirit speaking methods and principles of the Dreaming Way can find purchase still."

Which is good. It makes things easier. Which is I'm glad LQ asked for these. We can kill two birds with one stone.

"Sorry, just lost in thought for a moment," she said, shaking herself. "I'd actually like to acquire some material to study imperial era Weilu governance and spirit law. And if I'm going to talk to your Uncle, I wouldn't mind some primers on the basic tenets of the dreaming way.

Also, what the Meng want can also intersect with what we're trying to do with the Wang, so that helps things too.

"Yes," Meng Dan agreed. "But I have little else to offer. Only a reduction in raids would materially effect the Meng Clan's interests."

There was something there, she supposed, that could interlock with other interests. But it was a thought which needed more cooking. "Hm, do you know what movements the Western Territories are making?"


2. Some small insight into Meng geomancy. I don't think they'll have a problem with the beavers if they understand that they have to work around some disasters too. Maybe they'll try to learn more about it, so either a boon or a bane. Depends on how things go.

"Disasters come, rearrange the world. One must know how to make something in the wake of ruin," Meng Dan said.

She supposed that explained all of the effort put into landscaping. She touched base with Sixiang, who had been casting their senses about nearby.

"Does seem like its having a soothing effect. Also, there's at least one person moving around up here in the big leagues. I think it's one of the foreign guys. Course I'm pretty sure he let me notice him."

Looking at the quote, it may even help enhance things. Meng geomancy may be one of the ways to really apply Weilu methods on a large scale if it does have a soothing effect on spirits. But as we know, changing and fixing geomancy is really difficult and time-consuming, so it'll probably be a long-term project if we can do that.

3. Sun Shao is back again!!
There was something there, she supposed, that could interlock with other interests. But it was a thought which needed more cooking. "Hm, do you know what movements the Western Territories are making?"

"They are attempting to build a port again. It seems significantly more successful than their last attempt," Meng Dan replied. "But I assume you mean the troop movements in the south. Which are significant Reports indicate at least twenty thousand Sun soldiers, Third realm all. It is their largest muster since the initial conquest of the west. Also…" he trailed off, and his perpetual smile dipped.

"Also?" Ling Qi asked warily.

"The priests who oversee the maintenance of the western border have been requesting reinforcement and resources. The jungle is… energetic, in a way that they have not experienced."

And then there was that. She hoped Cai Renxiang would return with more news on what had gone down in the meeting between Sun Shao and the Duchess. "Thank you, Meng Dan."

I'm guessing that, now that he's allied with the goddess, she isn't interrupting any construction projects like this. Now, on one hand, this can help Shao expand his war effort. I'm not sure where their rivers pass, but I'm pretty sure they lead to the Thousand Lakes, based on Radiant Serpent. So that's there.

And then, it can also work for politics if the Jin can pass through there. So there's that too.

Also, fuck!

*Ahem*

We know Shao wants to go "tame" the Wall, as he did with the Jungle, and now, he's mustering up a huge army. Things are getting tensious. Hopefully, he doesn't attack the summit to prevent the Bai-Cai alliance from strengthening ties. We'll just need to wait and see what CRX says, I guess.

Plus, the Meng are having issues with the Jungle, and we just happen to have some notes on how to kill "weeds" from Bai Lushen. Hopefully we can trade?

4. Meng Dan is now an official, official husbando, since Ling Qi has recognized his interest. This should not be confused with an official husbando, which is when a male character has enough development to actually be a husbando. This makes him the third official, official husbando, after Xuan Shi and Bao Qian.

"You are very welcome, Miss Ling. Perhaps you will deign to share some of those secrets you have teased at in the future," he chuckled.

"Maybe, when this is over, perhaps we can arrange to share notes," Ling Qi said.

"Most agreeable, I'm sure I can arrange something comfortable," Meng Dan replied. "Though I must insist you share some favorites for the catering."

Ling Qi blinked, and for the first time an errant thought crossed her mind. Meng Dan seemed to compliment her often. She'd assumed it was just part of his affable personality. However, this arrangement…

"Does it change anything?"

Sixiang's words brought her up short. No, she supposed it didn't. It wasn't like anything official had been mentioned, so even if there was an idle fancy there, it didn't amount to anything. She had strength and position. There was no threat.

"Miss Ling?" Meng Dan said, tilting his head.

"Sorry, just lost in thought for a moment," she said, shaking herself. "I'd actually like to acquire some material to study imperial era Weilu governance and spirit law. And if I'm going to talk to your Uncle, I wouldn't mind some primers on the basic tenets of the dreaming way. Do you have any recommendations?"

Meng Dan drummed his fingers on the table, remaining silent for a moment. She held back a wince, he'd obviously noticed a shift in her demeanor

Also, damn, mans fell in love because of the hidden lore. I respect that.

One thing I'm glad about is LQ's reaction. She's a bit rattled, but it's not as bad as when Qingge pointed out Shi's interest. Which is good. Another sign that she's improving. I'm a bit sad that she had to assure herself that she's in control here, but we can't get rid of everything immediately! Still, all those small steps have been adding up.

5.
"Titles, familiarity. You hold yourselves apart, unfamiliar rituals and order. He transgresses. But I am too old to beat my chest and howl at the moon for pride. Grandfather, 'old timer' neither is untrue," the old man said, withdrawing his hand back into the depths of his cloak.

His diction was strange, slow and considering as if he were drawing phrases from tome. But his meaning was clear, even if his creaky, cracking voice made it harsh to the ear.

"To walk the far fields, where there is no hope or hearth," The crow cloaked elder said, tapping his stick thoughtfully on the ground. "To catch brave children when they tumble over the cliffs in the dark. Many whisper that the children are climbing high cliffs indeed in the north. I have spoken with one. I would speak with the other."

Xuan Shi really is perfect for the Crowfather role :V

6.
"You are older than your skin," he said finally. "What task did the old crone set you?"

Ling Qi blinked, frowning at him. She supposed there must be some residual power clinging to her from her last dream expedition. "My companion and I fetched her firewood, and listened to a story while she cooked.."

"Interesting. Kind. Unusual," the elder said thoughtfully.

Ling Qi looked at him intently. "Were you ever given a task, elder?"

He smiled toothlessly, and reached up, tugging at his collar. There she glimpsed thick ropy scars, going down a narrow chest. As if he had been torn open long ago. "Wrangling the chicken."

It looks like meeting Granny Grydja has changed us in *some* way, just like how meeting Skelunckle did. Hopefully, we can learn more later.

Also, I am REALLY excited to see what hatches out of Shi's egg, if it caused that much damage. I'm guessing it'll be on Zhengui's tier?

7.
They spoke awhile longer on smaller details. Arrangements for material and accommodation for the Meng clan in the planning and building. Things which she could pass up the chain to hopefully smooth prickly tempers. Some more objective feedback on Hanyi's tour, which had been successful by all metrics. Her junior sister did seem to have influenced the more local spirits strongly, by the lack of cohesion in the local spirit landscape. A repeat the following year was looking to be well in the cards.

Looks like Hanyi's set for another year. It's interesting that she may become the driving force behind spirit courts, or sr least, weather spirit courts, in the South.
 
[X] In addition to the work crews, promise to push for very basic communication to be established between the two embassy guard details. (Greatly improves starting mood of the White Sky delegation for talks. Adds a Professional action to your list. Potential for failure, more strain on your time.)
 
[X] In addition to the work crews, promise to push for very basic communication to be established between the two embassy guard details. (Greatly improves starting mood of the White Sky delegation for talks. Adds a Professional action to your list. Potential for failure, more strain on your time.)

The girl was no saint, she could not love all. She did not even want to try. But she would see that people spoke, that they did not shatter over miscommunication, by silence.

People would speak, people would hear.

C O M M U N I C A T I O N :V
 
[X] In addition to the work crews, promise to push for very basic communication to be established between the two embassy guard details. (Greatly improves starting mood of the White Sky delegation for talks. Adds a Professional action to your list. Potential for failure, more strain on your time.)
 
I feel like I'm usually the cautious contrary vote but the whole point of this is to be a smashing success so we kinda need to do

[X] In addition to the work crews, promise to push for very basic communication to be established between the two embassy guard details. (Greatly improves starting mood of the White Sky delegation for talks. Adds a Professional action to your list. Potential for failure, more strain on your time.)
 
[X] In addition to the work crews, promise to push for very basic communication to be established between the two embassy guard details. (Greatly improves starting mood of the White Sky delegation for talks. Adds a Professional action to your list. Potential for failure, more strain on your time.)
 
[X] In addition to the work crews, promise to push for very basic communication to be established between the two embassy guard details. (Greatly improves starting mood of the White Sky delegation for talks. Adds a Professional action to your list. Potential for failure, more strain on your time.)

As much as I hate to commit to more actions next turn, improved outcomes here are incredibly important and well worth the effort. Plus, it's the right thing to do.
 
[X] In addition to the work crews, promise to push for very basic communication to be established between the two embassy guard details. (Greatly improves starting mood of the White Sky delegation for talks. Adds a Professional action to your list. Potential for failure, more strain on your time.)
 
[X] In addition to the work crews, promise to push for very basic communication to be established between the two embassy guard details. (Greatly improves starting mood of the White Sky delegation for talks. Adds a Professional action to your list. Potential for failure, more strain on your time.)
 
[x] Promise to look into establishing more communication between the work crews of the two sides. (Improves starting mood of the White Sky delegation for talks. No further investment needed.)
 
[X] In addition to the work crews, promise to push for very basic communication to be established between the two embassy guard details. (Greatly improves starting mood of the White Sky delegation for talks. Adds a Professional action to your list. Potential for failure, more strain on your time.)
 
[X] In addition to the work crews, promise to push for very basic communication to be established between the two embassy guard details. (Greatly improves starting mood of the White Sky delegation for talks. Adds a Professional action to your list. Potential for failure, more strain on your time.)
 
I'm going to vote for the one with no chance of failure that still helps

[x] Promise to look into establishing more communication between the work crews of the two sides. (Improves starting mood of the White Sky delegation for talks. No further investment needed.)
 
[X] In addition to the work crews, promise to push for very basic communication to be established between the two embassy guard details. (Greatly improves starting mood of the White Sky delegation for talks. Adds a Professional action to your list. Potential for failure, more strain on your time.)
 
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