They just executed a massive coordinated strike across the entire border and killed Elder Zhou.
A core disciple just got chewed out for underestimating them.
That really doesn't make sense.
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A core disciple just got chewed out for underestimating them.
That really doesn't make sense.
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Oh boy, Shenhua's about to flex.
I am scared.
I don't even want to consider what a White in full bore looks like.
I am scared.
I don't even want to consider what a White in full bore looks like.
Even if she is, she can still nuke everything with light. Or produce things which nuke everything with light even better. I don't think we have wog on that (we know she can make stuff and has made things for the empress, but not whether that is her primary focus).
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She's pretty heavily production spec; created the White rooms and pioneered a new branch of formations (artificial item spirit creation), has a bunch of crafts disciples in the sect, Lin Hai among them.
Not that it matters much when it comes to power, production-type just means she's more scary since she's a nerd that reached endgame power.
Well, we don't know the level of Shenhua's gown, if it is white that makes for a very mobile spirit compared to what alot of the other ducal clans can offer (Like, I doubt you see a white xuanwu in a 10m wide tunnel.) So even if she is slightly weakened for her production focus, an additional high level spirit that can accompany her in tight spaces makes up for a lot.
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- Greece
Eh, does it really matter if she is? It will only even matter if she fights another white without her toys.
The biggest, most powerful Cloud Tribe cultivator ever (or at least in living memory) was Ogodei, who was a Prism.
Aside from that, the reason why the Empire is on top of the food chain around here is that they have a monopoly on force that basically no real adjacent polity can match.
It feels to me that a key difference between Shenhua and most other Whites is that Shenhua is fully kitted out in White-tier accessories and equipment. White-strength Talismans across the board, the sort of thing that only a White can even make, and she can have something like ten - Weapon Talisman, Armor Talisman, and eight Accessory talismans. All fully relevant at White.
In comparison, most other Whites probably aren't kitted out quite so well, with equipment quite so fitting - stuff made by Prism-tier crafters, the next best thing, probably simply can't compare.
A solid Green-tier Talisman is very good in it's field, effectively removing a weakness or empowering a strength - just look at our new set of bracelet-rings. A White-tier talisman... who the fuck knows, it certainly won't be relevant for a long time OOC, forget IC.
... I wonder how many White-tier production specialists there have even been. Certainly more than just one, but given how very many fields 'production specialist' covers I don't know how much overlap there's been over the millenia.
In comparison, most other Whites probably aren't kitted out quite so well, with equipment quite so fitting - stuff made by Prism-tier crafters, the next best thing, probably simply can't compare.
A solid Green-tier Talisman is very good in it's field, effectively removing a weakness or empowering a strength - just look at our new set of bracelet-rings. A White-tier talisman... who the fuck knows, it certainly won't be relevant for a long time OOC, forget IC.
... I wonder how many White-tier production specialists there have even been. Certainly more than just one, but given how very many fields 'production specialist' covers I don't know how much overlap there's been over the millenia.
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I think Shenhua may be the heaviest hitter currently existing outside actual Great Spirits, and maybe a handful of the most powerful dragons and possibly spirit ancestors.
Not just because she is a maxed out white, but also because she can make her own white level gear.
Anything that is a threat to Shenhua as an individual, is a threat to the empire as a whole.
Not just because she is a maxed out white, but also because she can make her own white level gear.
Anything that is a threat to Shenhua as an individual, is a threat to the empire as a whole.
Whoa...
Also, we should totally send a note of thanks to Lin Hai on that truly excellant accessory that dispelled the mist bomb.
Wonder if they took our bracelet to examine the mist.
Also, we should totally send a note of thanks to Lin Hai on that truly excellant accessory that dispelled the mist bomb.
Wonder if they took our bracelet to examine the mist.
I wouldn't bet on it.
The sect really doesn't have a right to seize a nobles private property. Even a minor one.
I can't imagine most provinces would support their existence if they did.
If they thought they could gain something from it, they'd ask.
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I bet they did take it, examine it, clean it, and then return it before we even woke up.
We haven't seen any other whites so that's all speculation.
We've seen a ghost dream echo thing and a simalicrum and glimpses of greats spirits filtering themselves through proxies.
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I think she was 6?
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That really shouldn't be the case at all. What Shenhua has is better full white kit, given that she has optimal 'knowledge' of the white she is outfitting + is at the forefront of talisman research even before being white.
However, the Mu, Bai, Guo, Xuan, Zheng and Jin have had whites for a long, long time, and each of their families probably had something like 20-50 whites each. This means they have long since thought over 'Oh, having a full kit of white gear is nice', and as such they should each have ways for their whites to get said Kit, be it "anyone having a chance to get to White is forced to learn some talisman making back in green and keeping up to date with it" or "get a talisman focused to white every two thousand years or so to renew kits".
That, and they also have had access to beyond white materials for a long time. For example, the Bai regularly harvent skin? of grandma snake, something only a white can even try to harvest. One of the big reasons for Suzhen getting to white being a big deal is in fact getting back that production online.
As for whether there are production specced whites beside Shenhua... beside both Xuan Shi and Jin scion apparently mainlining production (so there probably isn't an instant 'lose all chances to be a potential white if you are production specced'), we know of one other potential white that is a production specialist: Sima Jiao.
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- Colorado
[X] What the internal response of the province had been like
After a moment's thought, I agree with you about the Bai, Guo, Jin, Mu, Xuan, and Zheng and the materials they have access to.
And you're right about Shenhua, too. All of her kit is also White-tier object spirits, specifically tailored to her; they may well provide a proportionate level of enhancement as Cifeng and Liming provide to CRX. I don't think anybody else has gear that good, with the Imperial and Ducal clans generally having gear a step or so down.
The flipside of that is that most of those clans have their Whites all huddled up meditating in an attempt to Ascend rather than active and on the field, so the Cai - and, when Suzhen makes it to White, the Bai - have a definite initiative advantage when it comes to needing White-level firepower.
Oh wow, how did I miss that? I blame lack of sleep; only got four-five hours last night.
Thanks for the cohesive reply.
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Just want to add my thoughts on Shenhua. Honestly most of this is speculation with like, tiny foundations of truth.
So we know she is production specced, and in what seems unique way. On the level that the empress seems to curry favor with her to an extent. She is literally creating spirits, and we have never heard anyone else come even close to that feat. Even more impressively, the hand of that White image of that Weilu guy was eaten very easily by a strand of Liming.
That alone already makes her decently scary, but Shenhua is and has been known as a monster for a very long time, from cultivation speed to combat and production. What is important to realize is that her greatest achievements might be in production, but she was still famous for her saber and other combat abilities. Not to mention she became a white at what I believe was 50, though no matter what it was very young. I doubt she slowed down on improving herself. She also completely took over the Duchy around that time, and made the streets run red with blood. It is unlikely that the Duchy did not have a White around.
Overall, while I do not want to overestimate her, there is quite literally no chance of Shenhua being in danger during her walk. More than that, while it is impossible to know scaling and other power comparisons right now, I would be shocked if Shennhua was not one of the most powerful Whites. Just to make this clear, I do not think she is the most powerful of her tier. Just within the top 5 or something.
So we know she is production specced, and in what seems unique way. On the level that the empress seems to curry favor with her to an extent. She is literally creating spirits, and we have never heard anyone else come even close to that feat. Even more impressively, the hand of that White image of that Weilu guy was eaten very easily by a strand of Liming.
That alone already makes her decently scary, but Shenhua is and has been known as a monster for a very long time, from cultivation speed to combat and production. What is important to realize is that her greatest achievements might be in production, but she was still famous for her saber and other combat abilities. Not to mention she became a white at what I believe was 50, though no matter what it was very young. I doubt she slowed down on improving herself. She also completely took over the Duchy around that time, and made the streets run red with blood. It is unlikely that the Duchy did not have a White around.
Overall, while I do not want to overestimate her, there is quite literally no chance of Shenhua being in danger during her walk. More than that, while it is impossible to know scaling and other power comparisons right now, I would be shocked if Shennhua was not one of the most powerful Whites. Just to make this clear, I do not think she is the most powerful of her tier. Just within the top 5 or something.
So, unless the Xi moved the entire hall to their capital or the hall was constructed outside the Weilu capital, it seems that the capital of the Emerald Seas has always been Xiangmen. From the statement that Xiangmen was the stronghold of the Xi and that reference to the "ancient capital of the Weilu" from that First Age interlude, I had thought the Weilu and Xi capitals were different. But, I suppose, since the Xi were a Weilu branch, some amount of interchangeability is acceptable.
Also! An artificial aurora made from woven clouds (Dragon tech!), marble many hundreds of meters wide (from the Himalayan-equivalent Wall or from Celestial Peaks?), and bone pillars made from the greatest enemies Tsu had faced? That's pretty awesome! I wonder if the tree extends past the barrier if the Heavens, and cloud ceiling is meant to protect against stellar radiation?
Shenhua has been reducing the number of families involved in the running of the Emerald Seas in total? Or just those governing Xiangmen itself?
I wonder if she's consolidating duties and positions into lesser numbers of noble families or centralizing duties into her own separate bureaucracy? The latter would fit her known proclivities towards moving away from the current feudal model. (And the Cyan Jia Xu indicates the cultivation requirements for the higher levels of Xiangmen cap out at Baron-level, so the population-limit for the positions shouldn't be particularly low.)
That black gunk we saw during the adventure with Suyin, the monster on Icebreaker Peak, and now this. The consistency of each suggests that not only is there a master alchemist supplying the Gnawing Ones enemies with venoms and monsters, that person (or persons) is capable of proving them at quantity. That is, any engagement with the Gnawing Ones en mass should expect to have to deal with the gunk eventually, not just against elite or special forces.
A whole new front for the entire province! One that has been previously thought basically impervious to their ancestral enemy the Cloud Tribes. I imagine that trade with Ebon Rivers and the Celestial Peaks, the only provinces to plausibly have large cave systems, to experience a massive uptick for their expertise in defense against underground enemies. (And Shenhua will use this to go after noble clans in the way against her reforms, if they are incapable of getting that expertise, for whatever reason...)
And Shenhua is going on an Enthusiastic Walk in the Xiangmen undertunnels. Though, I can't help but think, is that going to be Mistake, later? That is to say, is this going to be another [Attack a group in retaliation for an attack from another only peripherally-affiliated group, resulting in an otherwise-non-existent coalition of enemies against you] sort of thing? If the Gnawing Ones beneath Xiangmen were affiliated with the ones that attacked the Argent Peak Sect, shouldn't we have expected there to be attacks in the root districts? That is to say, should we be treating the Gnawing Ones entirely as a monolith, where an attack against those in the northern tunnels of the Emerald Seas would also appropriately harm those that attacked the Sect from the southern tunnels of the Emerald Seas?
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This is something that should be thought about. So the Gnawing One's have so far been kind of treated as one collective. The only way this works is if they are universally "evil", were created and controlled by an enemy, have completely opposite goals and ideals, or are some kind of hive mind.
If not, this could be a mistake, and cause a lot more damage. Shenhua is in no danger, so its the afteraffects of this move that have to be watched out for. Only, to a certain extent I don't think she cares. Her way is dominating, brute, and direct. She basically has to respond in this way, she could never abide these "foe."whether there are innocents doesn't matter to her, but we should still think about it.
So... Whats up with the stuff called shen? Origibal idea or something xianxia