Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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Didn't yrs said that LQ missed the messenger because she's too mobile?
That would make the wait option much more appealing.

What the hell happened? Why was the update rereleased? There's no change and I didn't keep up with the thread after the (apparently) 1.0 version.
There are some changes. More reds died on screen, clearer picture of how the battle unfolded, Ling Qi is a bit more wounded, and vote options are much different.
 
People started complaining about unclear details and problematic vote structure, which put yrs on the spot and made him revise the update
There are some changes. More reds died on screen, clearer picture of how the battle unfolded, Ling Qi is a bit more wounded, and vote options are much different.

...The battle seemed just as unclear as the last version so apparently I'm going to need to reread that section again because it didn't seem like the reds died at all or any of that stuff.

That said, the vote change makes sense if people were really complaining about it. But what was wrong with the last votes anyway? They seemed okay to me.
 
You keep capitalizing Responsibility and then using the phrase "nobody will be able to fault us" like the most important thing in the situation is to avoid blame.
This is Military. Responsibility is IMPORTANT. Because it is the very basis on which a military is run from the top down.

Its the Commanding Officers job to do what is Efficient and Effective using the information they have available. Ling Qi's job is to do what she has been asigned. Everything else is Extra.
 
This is Military. Responsibility is IMPORTANT. Because it is the very basis on which a military is run from the top down.

Its the Commanding Officers job to do what is Efficient and Effective using the information they have available. Ling Qi's job is to do what she has been asigned. Everything else is Extra.
LQ is not an enlisted troop. LQ is an officer. The closest military analogy I can draw, in fact, is that she is a ship captain in an age before radio: a nontrivial striking force in her own right, but out of real-time-contact with command.

Like, yes, you're not wrong that the safe thing to do is to stick to her orders, no matter what. It's hard to get blamed for that. But the tactical situation is wildly different from what command prepared for and issued orders on the basis of; instead of hit-and-run raids, there seems to be a full coordinated assault with heavy force commitment. I'm not saying that it's necessarily wrong to stick to her assignment. There are a lot of good reasons for sitting tight on the village she was originally posted to. But doing so just because That's What Her Orders Said is ridiculous. Any sort of detached command responsibility expects officers to take initiative.
 
Moreover, the other village called for reinforcements just like this one. If it's wrong to back them up then it was also wrong to come here and also the messages about reinforcements were a bit pointless.

So...
 
You keep capitalizing Responsibility and then using the phrase "nobody will be able to fault us" like the most important thing in the situation is to avoid blame.

But hell, I don't really care whether Ling Qi gets a smilely face or a frowny face on her sect report card after all this is done. Who cares if someone were to "fault us"? Like, whatever, they'll wag their finger and tell her to study up on war and not to be led out of position next time. We're not trying to have a career in the Sect military anyway.

I think Ling Qi should do what she thinks is best and will save the most lives, not what she thinks will most shield her from potential blame if she's wrong. Maybe that's rushing to the next village. Maybe that's staying here and waiting to take stock. But it's definitely not doubting the decision she already made and rushing back to a position she left defended out of unsupported fears.
Having chosen to go the route of retainer to CRX, we can't afford to have such a lax attitude in regards to our reputation. Frankly there are very few paths we could have chosen where we could've just done whatever the hell we wanted. While I agree that saving the most lives should still be prioritized over reputation anyway, I think that's yet another reason to return to our village. That's the one we've left undermanned. Our village is the one with less cultivators guarding it than the others and thus is more vulnerable.
Also the fact of the matter is that the requests for reinforcements reached us around the same time which probably means those villages were attacked around the same time. Our battle is winding down here now. By the time we'd get to the next village, we'd probably be too late anyway. As shitty as that is, this is a military situation and so orders should come first. We know now that this is no typical raid--we just fought a couple hundred barbs. So it's very likely that GX and ZG do need our help.
 
So it's very likely that GX and ZG do need our help.

I don't think we know enough to say this. They haven't asked for reinforcements as far as we know, unlike the village we're in and the third village.

If it wasn't for Zhengui and Xiulan, I don't think Return would make sense as an option. Based on the information we have, they're in a less dangerous spot than the third village. If we think we need more information, Wait is the best option.

That being said, I do want to avoid a 'Suyin losing her eye' style situation, and Wait is starting to fall behind in votes.

[X] ...Wait
[X] Return

Although yrs did say that Zhengui is doing alright so that's probably a needless worry.
 
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Another point to consider is the possibility that Sha Feng is helping out the other village. Though we don't really know the exact distances between villages here (save that this village is perhaps slightly more than 10km from ours), it seems plausible that he would have been at the north-most village around the time that barbarians could be attacking. Alternatively, if he got there before it could make sense for him, at that point, to make the executive decision to stick around and back them up. He'd have finished his current mission of passing on the message of troubles to the south, and would know that the north-west village would not be able to reinforce them because they also have barbarians. He would also know that if we sent anyone, we would be going to this village first because it's closest (as well as the fact that we also wouldn't necessarily be able to take too many people away from our village).

That being said, three appraisal cultivators still wouldn't necessarily be enough. Shen Hu and us are probably the strongest cultivators assigned to this valley, and are really strong defensively. Our performance isn't necessarily indicative of what one would expect from all the officers here.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by EternalObserver on Oct 22, 2019 at 2:05 AM, finished with 103 posts and 39 votes.
 
I'm not sure if there's a solid strategic justification for returning to the village instead of waiting or heading to the third village without taking Zhengui or Xiulan into account. If returning can't be justified without them, she's prioritizing them over the mission.
We can receive news there, but not quite as easily. We're in the most central location atm. It also lets us respond in different directions most equitably, which is important if we don't know which one the most pressing crisis is in.

Good point that getting messages isn't strictly limited to waiting though.
The strategic justification for returning to her village is that it's the weakest village currently, and the one closest to the dangers. All other villages have the 'full' force of the sect, only hers has a partial force. As such, if there is an attack on a village, we can count on the other villages being able to somewhat fight them off longer than we can count on ours fighting it off.
Moreover, the other village called for reinforcements just like this one. If it's wrong to back them up then it was also wrong to come here and also the messages about reinforcements were a bit pointless.

So...
Not 'just like this one'.
Here is the thing: we have new data. The raid on Shen Hu's village was 'attack from multiple green and dozen of yellow as well as hundred reds' rather than 'attack from a dozen red'. If it happens to two villages at once, then it means it's a coordinated effort that could happen to three villages, and we can't contact our own village from here. Ling Qi is the one who would be supposed to contact it, as far as I know.

If we believe the other village is being attacked by a force even half as strong as the one which attacked Shen Hu's, then we can assume our duty is to go back to our own village because shit is fucked and something is going we need to be at our village for. If we assume that it's a much much lesser force, then we can assume we want to go back to our own village, because it's the least well defended of the tree, and as such need more help right now.

Basically, there being already one outsized attack on a village change the data we have, and Ling Qi's response must change accordingly if there are hints toward a second such attack. It's not the same.
 
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