Pempelune
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You do you, but I for one would rather there still be people to liberate by the time we're done with the ground war. And that means we must take over the duty of feeding the Hives.
Sterbelicht - One Sacrifice At A Time Against The Galaxy (40K)
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Guys, I am not ready a planner, so I'm not going to go around saying what we could do.
But I think we should trigger the war already. The Lamenters are... Motivated.
But I think we should trigger the war already. The Lamenters are... Motivated.
That's what the Superheavy Freighters we're stealing is for
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But those do not seem to be enough on their own or we wouldn't have cause to have all of our own Freighters involved.
Pempelune
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What do you think the point of building the Canis-Minor ships is, exactly?
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They are not enough to feed the whole planet, but they should be enough to feed the side that's currently fighting for us.
We can worry about the rest after we conquer the planet.
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He has a point.
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Civil Wars are very rarely that simple. There are those fighting for us, those fighting against us, and many people, civilian refugees of all kinds... stuck in the middle to some extent, whether they lean one side or another.
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Pempelune
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The "other side", right now, is everybody who is not in our gang. So 699 billion people, give or take a few billions. I wonder what will happen to these 699 billion if they're left for an entire turn (10 years) without food. Let alone the 5 or 6 turns we'll need to take the planet.
Are you so eager to rule over a boneyard?
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[] Plan: ALL IN, The River
-[] [Military] Fill Out Sector Battle Group
--[] Basilisk (1/2.5)
-[] Evacuation Fleets - (2/4)
-[] [Megafreighters] Now that the infiltration has been thorough, it should now be controlling, aiming to gain the ability to influence the mechanical systems, to keep the engines and other key components from blowing up and keeping them under control, and otherwise foment the necessary takeover as carefully as possible. We have a timeline, we have a timeframe now. Now all we need to do is prepare for the Mutiny that will save billions of lives on Voxx Primus.
Honestly if one is doing cynical calculus, the total number of deaths that 20 SAGs represent is perhaps the number of children who die in industrial actions every year on Voxx Primus, perhaps less, let alone anything approaching parity with the losses that a lack of Civilian Ships would bring.
Now, would I prefer we both advance our Infantry tech AND do the Evacuation Fleets? Yeah. But we've always been in Action Hell, and I think I know what I believe our priority should be.
-[] [Military] Fill Out Sector Battle Group
--[] Basilisk (1/2.5)
-[] Evacuation Fleets - (2/4)
-[] [Megafreighters] Now that the infiltration has been thorough, it should now be controlling, aiming to gain the ability to influence the mechanical systems, to keep the engines and other key components from blowing up and keeping them under control, and otherwise foment the necessary takeover as carefully as possible. We have a timeline, we have a timeframe now. Now all we need to do is prepare for the Mutiny that will save billions of lives on Voxx Primus.
Honestly if one is doing cynical calculus, the total number of deaths that 20 SAGs represent is perhaps the number of children who die in industrial actions every year on Voxx Primus, perhaps less, let alone anything approaching parity with the losses that a lack of Civilian Ships would bring.
Now, would I prefer we both advance our Infantry tech AND do the Evacuation Fleets? Yeah. But we've always been in Action Hell, and I think I know what I believe our priority should be.
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Yeah, that is true, but are we trying to save those that we can?
Or are we trying to save everyone?
Pempelune
Fanfiction Deep State
We're trying to save as many as we can, though we expect that at least half the population will die in the fighting.
And that's IF we can feed the planet, mind you.
Actually, I've decided that I'm going to do both. Get a new SBG and Novel Infantry upgrades this turn, then spend the rest of our actions on the civilian fleet the turn of the Revolution
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The problem is, the Revolution+Sending The Fleet to Help costs two actions. If it cost one, that would actually be a valid thing to do.
But… it does cost one action? Triggering the Revolution starts the campaign for us. That's what we've been told
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Unless I am doing my math wrong, doesn't it mean we need to provide for just half of a planet even in the best case scenario?
Alectai
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It's still absurd that three agriworlds can only feed the Hive if they're supplemented by a literal armada of food from our end of the border when it's us, but those three megafreighters are largely enough as long as Van-Zandt is doing it.
Damnit I hate all the subtle miracles they have that let them largely ignore logistics and sanity as long as they're Ruthless enough!
Damnit I hate all the subtle miracles they have that let them largely ignore logistics and sanity as long as they're Ruthless enough!
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No? I'm pretty sure that HeroCooky said exactly the opposite. I'll find the post.
The answer is that they DON'T feed all of their people, let alone adequately.
Pempelune
Fanfiction Deep State
Oh no, HeroCooky did say that the Revolution action counts as the start of the campain, no need to have an additional action
They are not going to immediatly pop out of existance the moment they stop receiving food. Otherwise no Hive world would have been able to survive.
And like BigBadBob says, we can work on the fleet after the revolution triggers.
Alectai
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They've clarified it even just now?
"You have the rest of this turn, and need to start the revolution next turn, and have 2 more actions past that"
This. That was last turn, so we have 5 now.
1 Megafreighter,
2 civ fleet
1 sbg
1 infantry research?
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Well if that's the case we can just do the Infantry Research next turn, spend an action on it? We get two for one on it, so that's a good thought, but I'm still not entirely sure?
Honestly if we are thinking Infantry research, it might almost be interesting to do one of Logistical Armor or Weaponry, just so that we can equip the non-SAGS on our side with some body armor.
Like to clarify here, I looked at that same post and interpreted it differently. Technically there's not a REQUIREMENT to send your fleet when triggering the Revolution, only a practical requirement.
Honestly if we are thinking Infantry research, it might almost be interesting to do one of Logistical Armor or Weaponry, just so that we can equip the non-SAGS on our side with some body armor.
Like to clarify here, I looked at that same post and interpreted it differently. Technically there's not a REQUIREMENT to send your fleet when triggering the Revolution, only a practical requirement.
Or we just cut out the Megafreighter and take a risk. It's said we have a high chance of success, and while not guaranteed, the dice already fucked us recently, just gotta gamble that it isn't out for our blood so soon.
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@HeroCooky , apologies if your answer to this has already happened, but I'm still actually deeply unsure. I was under the impression that Triggering the Revolution and Sending In The Fleets were separate actions in the action economy. Can you chime in on this?