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[X] Plan: Lend-Lease to stall the Diaconate
Sterbelicht - One Sacrifice At A Time Against The Galaxy (40K)
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I wonder if the Shattered Yard's sub sector has some DAoT shipyard ruins that we could loot?
Edit: @Neablis, something you need to remember is that we are at the edge of our sustainable fleet numbers, we can't make much more to use ourselves without upgrading our Military Dev. Also, I don't know if they still qualify, but can't we give the Emergency Coalition some of the same ships we built for the Dutchy? Obviously not the battleship. Lastly, I'm not sure if this is an error or not, but the Sector map shows that we have gotten all of Gulf's Edge but our subversion bureau is saying that we are still working on taking over the Rose Torn Heralds. If that's an error in our favor we might be able to assign that slot to the Diaconate to get some better info.
Edit: @Neablis, something you need to remember is that we are at the edge of our sustainable fleet numbers, we can't make much more to use ourselves without upgrading our Military Dev. Also, I don't know if they still qualify, but can't we give the Emergency Coalition some of the same ships we built for the Dutchy? Obviously not the battleship. Lastly, I'm not sure if this is an error or not, but the Sector map shows that we have gotten all of Gulf's Edge but our subversion bureau is saying that we are still working on taking over the Rose Torn Heralds. If that's an error in our favor we might be able to assign that slot to the Diaconate to get some better info.
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[X] Plan: Lend-Lease to stall the Diaconate - We aren't Imperium we aren't throwing people at problem. Version
-[X] [General] Integrate The New Territories (5/17)
-[X] [Free] Consecrate In Sacred Sand (Shattered Yards)
-[X] [Free] Hiss of the Steam Valve to 555 choirs.
-[X] [Military] Design New Voidship Classes
--[X] Design Ships For The Coalition - [100 DP]
-[X] [Military] Fleet Construction - (2.600 Points per Action)
--[X] Sell Ships To The Coalition (Requires Design Ships For The Coalition) x2
-[X] [General] Ministry of Subversion, Infiltration, and Interstellar Communication (Cry for the Future action)
--[X] Military Aid To The Coalition
While Neablis plan is intresting it is too risky when we can wait a turn and ask Starchild how to blow Daemon world to kingdom come. I think that we should just throw more ships at coalition while we wait for @Alectai to design ships for them
-[X] [General] Integrate The New Territories (5/17)
-[X] [Free] Consecrate In Sacred Sand (Shattered Yards)
-[X] [Free] Hiss of the Steam Valve to 555 choirs.
-[X] [Military] Design New Voidship Classes
--[X] Design Ships For The Coalition - [100 DP]
-[X] [Military] Fleet Construction - (2.600 Points per Action)
--[X] Sell Ships To The Coalition (Requires Design Ships For The Coalition) x2
-[X] [General] Ministry of Subversion, Infiltration, and Interstellar Communication (Cry for the Future action)
--[X] Military Aid To The Coalition
While Neablis plan is intresting it is too risky when we can wait a turn and ask Starchild how to blow Daemon world to kingdom come. I think that we should just throw more ships at coalition while we wait for @Alectai to design ships for them
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We don't want New Dawn in just yet since the cololised sub sectors are still spinning up. Plus we might be getting more sub sectors in that area soon. Also, I @'ed Neablis about the ship designs, we can just use the ones that we sent to the Dutchy, no need to spend a day and and update on making a new design.
Does stopping a Symphony cost AP?
If not:
Why not turn of the research Symphony?
Its cost increases every turn we have it on, turning it off means our warp disturbance budget is spent only on currently usefull symphonies.
good point, but given that Coalition probably lacks industrial capacity of the duchy we should make them a bit easier to make and focused on smaller sizes
We could bring said industrial capacity to them with something like this. We could even put it inside a [Grand Cruiser] with 3 DP to spare.
We want them to be able to actually use the stuff we give them. Not watch them flounder with no idea how to use the stuff and just have them lose it to the Diaconate when they focus on it.
It's a factory ship; it's supposed to be stationed behind their lines, not fight in the front. The only way they'd lose it to the Diaconate would either be through infiltration and sabotage, or it's reached the point that the Triumvirate's frontlines have been breached and by then we'd have bigger things to worry about than losing a single ship.
Also, I doubt they'd flounder about on how to operate the manufactory given their tech level:
.... Really, they are specifically called out as being 'far behind the Federation'. I really doubt that they would understand how to use our heavyweight stuff. Also, we are going to be integrating them as soon as is feasible, no need to give them the amazing stuff, what we gave the Dutchy for the Maggot War is Fine, there is literally no need to make a whole new ship design when we wouldn't be giving them our best stuff anyway, it's going to be captured by the Diaconate. We are literally setting them up as a barrier to slow the Diaconate down while our fleets are busy dealing with the Slannesh Cult.
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quite the opposite,export varieties are usually modified to fit the other country needs and capabilities (tech,industry and maintainance)
if we make a personalized ship for them we can ensure they can punch above their weight as much as doable despite their size
also their inevitably loss of sectors (and following genocides) can allow us to make some funny things (use the warp calming symphonie several times),it would be math fuckery to a degree,but as always
>as long is for fighting a enemy and not for spamming dev and research
we should be fine-ish
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See No Evil, etc only takes 500 choirs, not 555:
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I wonder how close we are to our next size upgrade. I think we got one from integration but then we also have expanded by like 12 subsectors or such. So I guess the main thing might be population. We need people to make plenty so to speak
I know right, I specifically got HeroCooky to change that stuff to 'Locked' status a while ago. Why people want to keep touching it is beyond me. Though it isn't helped by the fact that I can't accurately track how many Choirs we have anymore.
1. That is literally below our level of abstraction, how to work our basic stuff is something we would tell them.
2. Yeah, they will likely lose sub sectors, but honestly I think we should turn off ALL symphonies this turn, we don't need them and the Warp Tremors are going to be increasing on their own, If we use our stuff with it, it will shoot up to near Warp Storm levels. The one that calms the Warp is very much something that HeroCooky will punish us for if we spam it, and it has been on for a few turns now.
I stuck 555 choirs into it because 555 is a holy number of the star child, and we've got so many choirs that even a small chance at improved benefit is worth 55 extra choirs.
It doesn't cost AP to stop, and we don't have the research symphony on. We only have the extra action sympony and the one that reduces warp tremors.
Sidenote but I wonder how we can move 555 choirs to frontlines in your plan neablis without an action.
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421.M43 - Competition For Primitives
HeroCooky
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The initial desire to aid the Coalition with (steeply discounted) sales of arms and equipment soon ran into a problem that, quite frankly, nobody within the Star-Mechancium had ever anticipated, so coddled and wrapped up within their temples and universities between nearly three trillion sentients who all, to a fault, had at least enough education to create the most fundamental circuit out of some wires and diodes found in any electronics shop of the Federation, which was further enhanced by being surrounded by two polities that had enough educational funding to ensure a solid block of sentients for their own Mechanicum's to recruit from.
This problem, shockingly, was that the Tech-Priests of the Coalition looked at the second-hand equipment being offered, blinked (or the equivalent thereof if no more eyes were present), and then straight-up told the Star-Mechanicum that they couldn't possibly maintain such highly advanced artifacts, especially if they are to see combat and regular use.
However, while this quite embarrassingly was true for the ships and equipment being collaborated on, the vehicle fleets of the Federation only had to switch out a few parts on their venerable designs, the millennia-old creations having had every possible fault either removed or reduced thanks to dozens of centuries in service seeing constant updates and new patterns emerge.
Yet, the matter of the fleet still remained. The Coalition was not as technically advanced as the Federation, which turned the design process into a competition for primitives.
You have 100 DP.
(6-Hour Moratorium)
Costs: Destroyer (1 DP), Frigate (2 DP), Light Cruiser/Freighter (4 DP), Heavy Cruiser/Freighter (8 DP), Grand Cruiser (16 DP), Battleship (50 DP).
[] (Write-In Designs)
AN: And with this Update (that I am not counting toward the Update Limit), we are almost into the Holiday Hiatus. The last Update will be tomorrow. See you then!
This problem, shockingly, was that the Tech-Priests of the Coalition looked at the second-hand equipment being offered, blinked (or the equivalent thereof if no more eyes were present), and then straight-up told the Star-Mechanicum that they couldn't possibly maintain such highly advanced artifacts, especially if they are to see combat and regular use.
However, while this quite embarrassingly was true for the ships and equipment being collaborated on, the vehicle fleets of the Federation only had to switch out a few parts on their venerable designs, the millennia-old creations having had every possible fault either removed or reduced thanks to dozens of centuries in service seeing constant updates and new patterns emerge.
Yet, the matter of the fleet still remained. The Coalition was not as technically advanced as the Federation, which turned the design process into a competition for primitives.
[Coalition Doctrine: Primitive Metal]
[All available DP are reduced to 35% of their totals.]
[All Ship Categories (Lenght, Width, etc.) incurr DP Costs after the Second Rank.]
[Munitions, Missiles, Megacorp - Reduce all Missile, Prow, or Macro-Cannon (Plasma Excluded) Weaponry Costs by 1 DP (to a minimum of 1 DP)]
[Megacorp Meddling - Increase the cost of all Plasma/Lance Weaponry by 1 DP.]
[Armor is Cheaper by 1 (One) Rank.]
[Standardized Equipment - Improved Prow Spur and Shield Overload]
[All available DP are reduced to 35% of their totals.]
[All Ship Categories (Lenght, Width, etc.) incurr DP Costs after the Second Rank.]
[Munitions, Missiles, Megacorp - Reduce all Missile, Prow, or Macro-Cannon (Plasma Excluded) Weaponry Costs by 1 DP (to a minimum of 1 DP)]
[Megacorp Meddling - Increase the cost of all Plasma/Lance Weaponry by 1 DP.]
[Armor is Cheaper by 1 (One) Rank.]
[Standardized Equipment - Improved Prow Spur and Shield Overload]
You have 100 DP.
(6-Hour Moratorium)
Costs: Destroyer (1 DP), Frigate (2 DP), Light Cruiser/Freighter (4 DP), Heavy Cruiser/Freighter (8 DP), Grand Cruiser (16 DP), Battleship (50 DP).
[] (Write-In Designs)
AN: And with this Update (that I am not counting toward the Update Limit), we are almost into the Holiday Hiatus. The last Update will be tomorrow. See you then!
Oh dear god we are cut our DP by 2/3rd