What should your focus for the rest of the Quest be?


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[] Plan: Fix Bayonets and Charge the Rapscallions
-[] [Military] [Construct] A Warp Ship - [4x Aries-Secundus-Class Corvette]
-[] [Military] Begin Military Operations (1st Droman SAG, 2nd Droman SAG) (Brotar Primus) (Conquest)
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-[] Task Fleet Beta
(7x Aries-Secundus Class Corvette, 5x Lupus-Class Torpedo Destroyer, 3x Crux-Class Missile Frigate, 1x Libra-class Light Carrier, 1x Libra-Secundus Light Carrier, 2x Taurus-Class Troopship (0/2 SAG Capacity))
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-[] Lamenters Chapter Fleet
(3x Risen Dirge-Class Boarding Ships (Space Marine Troopship))
-[] [General] Develop The Federations'...
--[] Military Industry V


I'm not totally sure on the invasion plan, but I'm guessing that's what we're going to do next? Hit 'em while they're weak?
 
"I am Brother Omicron of the Lamenters Space Marine Chapter," he said in a deep bass, and eyes widened as weapons, improvised or not, began to clatter against the ground. People dropped to their knees, the Imperial Aquila formed by their hands and started to mutter fervent prayers to the God-Emperor as everyone tried to avoid sullying one of His Angels with their gazes. "This vessel is being commandeered. Surrender.
Also, are the Lamenters fully willing to invade the Neon Protectorate? Or was this a one time special case for the fire ships?
 
I'll be workshopping a broad outline, but pending on getting navigational data and/or a map of their territory, I'm broadly looking at "Moving in, seizing Brotar as an FoB, and from there, we strike as deep into Neon territory as we can, liberating citizens and looting as much infrastructure and material as possible before they can mobilize a proper response." If there's a particularly juicy target in strike range of the Brotar FoB, we can target it specifically, or if there's a good chokepoint somewhere that we can seize before they can react, that'll be great too. But that's largely beyond the scope of what I can plan barring better intel on the map of the Subsector.

Just a question, but I'm guessing our damage is minor enough that our Strike Fleet will be able to deploy immediately @HeroCooky ? Ideally before they even realize Tanya's force got chewed up and spat out?
 
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Also, are the Lamenters fully willing to invade the Neon Protectorate? Or was this a one time special case for the fire ships?
Nah, I think they are. They technically aren't the Imperium and they attacked us first with the intent of nuking population centers. And really, Chyron is the only one who has some lingering doubts, but he's pretty much 50/50 on flipping off Robby G himself if he comes in and demands he murder us. For the rest of the Lamenters, we've been all they've known and Neon leaves little to be desired.
 
Nah, I think they are. They technically aren't the Imperium and they attacked us first with the intent of nuking population centers. And really, Chyron is the only one who has some lingering doubts, but he's pretty much 50/50 on flipping off Robby G himself if he comes in and demands he murder us. For the rest of the Lamenters, we've been all they've known and Neon leaves little to be desired.

It helps a lot that we're consistently practicing what we preach too, yeah.
 
Okay, as far as it goes, one thing we should remember is we have Navigators now, so our plans can and should go beyond just a single planet and should include an entire campaign plan behind them. Not that I think everyone will forget, but there used to be a time where invading a single planet was a decade's setup...
 
Okay, as far as it goes, one thing we should remember is we have Navigators now, so our plans can and should go beyond just a single planet and should include an entire campaign plan behind them. Not that I think everyone will forget, but there used to be a time where invading a single planet was a decade's setup...

We don't have Navigators. Any that might have hypothetically survived will sooner commit suicide than comply with us once they realize we've figured a workaround to their monopoly.

It's equal parts Sheer Fucking Greed as it is reasonable self protection mechanism. They sure as hell don't have to have even their most humble houses achieve Rich Beyond Avarice level quality of living where the Navigator's Salary is roughly 15% of a Voidship's operating costs, but they insist on it regardless.
 
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Okay, as far as it goes, one thing we should remember is we have Navigators now, so our plans can and should go beyond just a single planet and should include an entire campaign plan behind them. Not that I think everyone will forget, but there used to be a time where invading a single planet was a decade's setup...
hopefully the captured ship/the wrecks end up giving us some maps, otherwise this will be tough to prosecute
 
We don't have Navigators. Any that might have hypothetically survived will sooner commit suicide than comply with us once they realize we've figured a workaround to their monopoly.

It's equal parts Sheer Fucking Greed as it is reasonable self protection mechanism. They sure as hell don't have to have even their most humble houses achieve Rich Beyond Avarice level quality of living where the Navigator's Salary is roughly 15% of a Voidship's operating costs, but they insist on it regardless.

I meant that we have something that gives us the advantage in mobility that Navigators bring. We can be there in force in a matter of a few weeks. Ten years is now an incredibly long campaign time.
 
"Moving in, seizing Brotar as an FoB, and from there, we strike as deep into Neon territory as we can, liberating citizens and looting as much infrastructure and material as possible before they can mobilize a proper response."
Problem is Brotar then splits into two systems. So which one do we focus on? Or do we try to split the offesive in two?
 
[] Create The 1st Protectorate SAG
-[] 2x Heavy Tank Units, x1 Heavy Mechanized Assault Unit, x1 Medium Sabotage Infantry Unit


Alright, here's what I'm suggesting we go for with our first Yeeni SAG. And also a point to keep in mind, we don't HAVE to send them out in the first battle. There's going to be plenty of battles ahead of us and we don't have to send them out at the soonest opportunity. While I know you guys really want to protecc such cute bois and gurls, they want to go attacc and while I don't think it's the only way forward for them, it's the one that THEY want and I see no good reason why we should deny them this.

Plus side, it would spare us an action in the future to form one later.
 
11 (6,5) vs 3 (3) - Eliminate Fire Ships - One Captured - Ambush Improved

oh hello, looks like lonesome has a malus to boarding fights. Which makes sense, the Imperium was famously bad at them. We should keep this in mind going forward, if we can bull of boarding assaults they will be bad at them.

as for the Yeeni, I forget have they been declared full kin yet?
 
I meant that we have something that gives us the advantage in mobility that Navigators bring. We can be there in force in a matter of a few weeks. Ten years is now an incredibly long campaign time.

Ah, I get it now.

Yeah, just did a quick review, and the Void Abacus is listed as allowing for travel within a Sub-Sector, as long as you have accurate charts, which if we're lucky, we might get in our salvage. If we find a particularly juicy Target of Opportunity, we can take that into account in the plans.

Yeah, reviewing the Rogue Trade RP. A Void Abacus allows for system-to-system on Stable Route jumps within a day, travel along the major routes of a Subsector in 5-10 days, and caps out there because that's the fundamental limitation if you don't have something that can actively adjust for nasty conditions, as well as this being ineffectual against anything other than Stable Warp Routes.
 
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as for the Yeeni, I forget have they been declared full kin yet?
Not yet, they're considered a Protectorate now, and won't be called Kin until they're commitment to the Federation is without doubt, such as when the Kil'drabi put their Battlecolonies at risk for our defense.

What do we know about the two systems off from Brotar?
Here's what we know from our first scouting report:
Yet, what is vital to know is that all three planets with human presence within the two systems had all the signs of being recently colonized and are only lightly defended. Concerningly, Karkona V of Ikatun is used as a military-industrial and recruitment world, with a small population of greenskins used to bloody recruits. Our information department theorizes that these are the remnants of the Ork polity we destroyed within our Sub-Sector. Brabu and Xandulia within Barbarun, in stark contrast, seem more focused on material extraction, the first used to mine for minerals with the latter being used as a proto-agricultural world overseen by a "House Imakulatius van Gerstenberg."
 
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What do we know about the two systems off from Brotar?

One looks to be a newly settled training world for their Guard thanks to a preserved Ork presence, the other looks to be a mining/extraction world. The Former in particular is something we shouldn't probably let get isolated, at risk of the Orks breaking containment.

Neither are great opportunities from the perspective of a raid, which is why I hope something juicier's in range. We have a rare opportunity to catch Neon with their pants down, the question is if the astrography allows for a clay grab or if we can target something worth the time to raid.
 
Not yet, they're considered a Protectorate now, and won't be called Kin until they're commitment to the Federation is without doubt, such as when the Kil'drabi put their Battlecolonies at risk for our defense.

Well in that case we should absolutely let them fight, we already have precedent of that being a short path to kin status, and I think we would befit from being able to declare them kind and making them full members.
 
They'd still look down on you, but that is par for the course for them (T'au Empire, not Farsigth Enclaves. They'd be confused as heck), with a major undertone of "The Stoopid Monky Have Learned To Ape People. Novel!"

Alternatively:
SUBSUME INTO GREATER GOOD.

Well at least they won't be shooting at us. About as well as I could have hoped for. It'd probably be low level glaring and the occasional border skirmish then I suppose, if we had a border with them. Honestly that's be acceptable.
 
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