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First of all, she is powerful enough to pull that off. We've literally seen her pulling it off in Brockton Bay (The Agnosia Plague). If not for Panacea, it would've been GG WP for everyone in the city.
And good luck trying to find her.
Especially when everyone across the country suddenly has trouble thinking straight because of the infection.
There's a fair difference between killing a city and taking over a planet: Also Like I said, Orbital bombardments, there's no downplaying or misunderstanding a threat at that theoretical level.

What does the fixer want from her?

Probably the routine meet and greet with a new potential prospect.
 
Maybe someone mentioned this already, Lily has too much "French" accent. I'm pretty sure it doesn't mean just starting every third word with a 'z'. Less is more. French accent is also the absence of 'h', that's all I got.
 
She brought it in her luggage, which she didn't have access to while in the course but was returned to her afterwards, so she could use it the week or so she was done with basic.

synthesise is correct. I usually use UK/dominion spellings instead of the American standard as that was how I was taught English when I was a kid. I've been stopping myself from using UK words though, because this is a POV of Taylor. I changed 'aeroplane" which I wrote first to airplane in an earlier chapter, and I used the word semi-truck instead of lorry, etc.

"worrying at" is when a dog grabs something in their mouth and attempts to chew/rag it. I'm sure this definition is correct, but I'm not sure the etymology of it.
 
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So, an important question, the dog is actually injured right? because if it's not, does that mean that someone used Trauma team as a rescue squad? Is Trauma team a paramedic company, or they actually double up as a bodyguards on call on their platinum subscription?
Trauma Team does sell their service as both medical and rescue. If you call them they'll come and make sure you're safe even if youre not injured yet.

They will even sell temporary, sometimes VERY temporary, service plans to people, including edgerunners. Like a single day plan when the edgerunners plan some sort of heist. They won't put up with people trying to make them help them, but they'll help on the get away kind of like Delamain did for V in CP2077 game.
 
Maybe someone mentioned this already, Lily has too much "French" accent. I'm pretty sure it doesn't mean just starting every third word with a 'z'. Less is more. French accent is also the absence of 'h', that's all I got.
Wrong story, dude. This is Worm/Cyberpunk, you want Cyborg in the Wasteland, a Fallout/Eclipse Phase cross.
 
Maybe. But compared to someone(Bonesaw) who can take over any city with a cough… well, there's no comparison.


First of all, she is powerful enough to pull that off. We've literally seen her pulling it off in Brockton Bay (The Agnosia Plague). If not for Panacea, it would've been GG WP for everyone in the city.
And good luck trying to find her.
Especially when everyone across the country suddenly has trouble thinking straight because of the infection.
Yeah but once again people are forgetting the fact that this ain't earth bet, in bet and in our world a biological weapon like those that Bonesaw makes is an insta game over, in Cyberpunk 2077 that's just a tuesday in a Corpo War, hell Biotechnica sells bioweapons to the highest bidder. Suffice to say that while Taylor could create some new and very potent plagues which may bring down countries, Cyberpunk would simply adapt to the new crazy on the block and probably accept the loss of those territories and just nuke them and her instead of simply submitting. Another thing worth mentioning is that in Cyberpunk humans have a very expanse like presence in the solar system, it isn't as developed as The Expanse but it's getting there so even if she could blackmail the people trapped in earth there's nothing stopping the ultrarich from moving out and bombing the hell out of Earth and coming back later.
 
Mmmm Wakako could be after the Taylor's skills and/or an in to the Trauma Team building
How died Annete? Who killed her?
I was thinking of family feuds or bad blood
 
The guy who set off the EMP definitely had implants himself, but he was a rich XBD editor and he didn't even twitch when the EMP went off, so I assume he had specifically high quality implants, probably with additional protection since he himself often used EMPs.

One of the ripperdocs in the game has no chrome whatsoever. When asked about it, he says it's because he expects another nuclear war at some point. So he has no desire to become blinded or disabled due to the inevitable EMPs. His tone and phrasing leaves him sounding a bit like your traditional conspiracy theorist. However, considering what caused the Time of the Red, and that he is an actual ripperdoc... :evil2:
 
I think people often (way too often, honestly) severely underestimate Bonesaw. For unknown reasons. Despite the fact that she's one of the most powerful and versatile tinkers on Earth Bet. Without any parahuman opposition, Bonesaw would've taken over this Cyberpunk Earth in like a week, at most.
Taylor with her derp-level bud and faulty connection is never going to be anywhere close to Bonesaw's level, no matter how hard she tries. The gap between what we've seen so far from Taylor and OG Bonesaw is simply insurmountable, at least without some sudden major upgrades to her power.

No, Taylor could do the same here too, she just seems to be sandbagging out of fear of early corpo attack.

None of the downright magical abilities of Bonesaw are actually needed for world domination. Basic posthuman biotech does it just fine.
 
One of the ripperdocs in the game has no chrome whatsoever. When asked about it, he says it's because he expects another nuclear war at some point. So he has no desire to become blinded or disabled due to the inevitable EMPs. His tone and phrasing leaves him sounding a bit like your traditional conspiracy theorist. However, considering what caused the Time of the Red, and that he is an actual ripperdoc... :evil2:
I mean, the ripper in Kabuki doesn't have any chrome either. He, however, is a body builder and outright tells you that he believes chrome interferes with your brain. According to Robert Rainwater (the guy's name), even a single replacement hand will lead to a loss of hand-eye coordination and reduced reflexes. Personally, I think he is full of shit, but whatever.
Still, most of the ripper-docs don't have that much chrome. That thing on Vik Vektor's hand? That is a glove.
No, Taylor could do the same here too, she just seems to be sandbagging out of fear of early corpo attack.

None of the downright magical abilities of Bonesaw are actually needed for world domination. Basic posthuman biotech does it just fine.
Post-Human Biotech without Sparkly Shard Bullshit is WITHIN THE CORPO TECHBASE. You release a plague, and Biotechnica takes a sample going "ooh! New weapon to sell!", and then makes a cure to sell for even more.
 
I did come back with very detailed drawings of semi-autonomous surgical assistant spider robots about the size of a chihuahua which incorporated both electronic and biological components, for example, human neural tissue instead of a CPU. I didn't understand electronics enough to actually use any kind of electronic solution for a robot, but I understood the biology of a human brain very well and could repurpose or just grow parts of it that would work as well as or better than any robot currently on the market
Taylor be bringing the Biopunk in Cyberpunk

Show the power of pure 'ganic bullshit Taylor or just take notes from Twig and whatever Wildbow got in his head when writing that
 
Post-Human Biotech without Sparkly Shard Bullshit is WITHIN THE CORPO TECHBASE. You release a plague, and Biotechnica takes a sample going "ooh! New weapon to sell!", and then makes a cure to sell for even more.

No, while certainly more advanced by IRL, biotech is still seen as a major effort that companies have to work towards perfecting.

Taylor meanwhile basically has the blueprints of genetics AND knows how to use it.

She could effortlessly create, for example, a virus with a long incubation period that causes biocomputer tumors and sensors so that she could send further instructions to the infected on the fly, to do whatever she wants.

She could mass manufacture biocomputer AIs and a clone army in a greenhouse.

She could bypass existing nanobot protections by flawlessly and effortlessly disguising her infections as benign.

The fact Cyberpunk is merely Transhuman
rather than Posthuman shows us how limited their tech is.
 
No, while certainly more advanced by IRL, biotech is still seen as a major effort that companies have to work towards perfecting.

Taylor meanwhile basically has the blueprints of genetics AND knows how to use it.

She could effortlessly create, for example, a virus with a long incubation period that causes biocomputer tumors and sensors so that she could send further instructions to the infected on the fly, to do whatever she wants.

She could mass manufacture biocomputer AIs and a clone army in a greenhouse.

She could bypass existing nanobot protections by flawlessly and effortlessly disguising her infections as benign.

The fact Cyberpunk is merely Transhuman
rather than Posthuman shows us how limited their tech is.
All those things...require shard bullshit to make unless she A: understands the tech, and B: has the mundane or tinkered-up tools to do so. High-level trauma medic + very little shard BS to go around means that NO, she CAN'T make that stuff. She can make broad plans about how she WOULD make that stuff, and can understand what she would need to research or build to support those things.
 
No, while certainly more advanced by IRL, biotech is still seen as a major effort that companies have to work towards perfecting.

Taylor meanwhile basically has the blueprints of genetics AND knows how to use it.

She could effortlessly create, for example, a virus with a long incubation period that causes biocomputer tumors and sensors so that she could send further instructions to the infected on the fly, to do whatever she wants.

She could mass manufacture biocomputer AIs and a clone army in a greenhouse.

She could bypass existing nanobot protections by flawlessly and effortlessly disguising her infections as benign.

The fact Cyberpunk is merely Transhuman
rather than Posthuman shows us how limited their tech is.
Bonesaw can do all of that and much more.
Taylor, on the other hand, can do none of it, as far as I understand. In fact, she'll probably never be able to do any of it. Well, maybe in a few hundred years, if her shard has enough power left in its battery.
 
All those things...require shard bullshit to make unless she A: understands the tech, and B: has the mundane or tinkered-up tools to do so. High-level trauma medic + very little shard BS to go around means that NO, she CAN'T make that stuff. She can make broad plans about how she WOULD make that stuff, and can understand what she would need to research or build to support those things.
Bonesaw can do all of that and much more.
Taylor, on the other hand, can do none of it, as far as I understand. In fact, she'll probably never be able to do any of it. Well, maybe in a few hundred years, if her shard has enough power left in its battery.

If it was regular tech you'd be right, but it isn't. It's biotech.

Everything biotech boils down to genetic code, and you can program that in any old computer and implement it in a very basic home lab. After that it literally grows itself.

That includes the ability to grow your own tools.

No magic required, and all the tech operable by anyone using the machines.

And once the superintelligent AI biocomputers finish growing, you won't even need Taylor's shard to provide the genetic code anymore and operations can be completely autonomous and eternal.
 
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No, while certainly more advanced by IRL, biotech is still seen as a major effort that companies have to work towards perfecting.

Taylor meanwhile basically has the blueprints of genetics AND knows how to use it.

She could effortlessly create, for example, a virus with a long incubation period that causes biocomputer tumors and sensors so that she could send further instructions to the infected on the fly, to do whatever she wants.

She could mass manufacture biocomputer AIs and a clone army in a greenhouse.

She could bypass existing nanobot protections by flawlessly and effortlessly disguising her infections as benign.

The fact Cyberpunk is merely Transhuman
rather than Posthuman shows us how limited their tech is.

FLAG ON THE FIELD!

Cyberpunk and Transhumanism are specifically different sides of the coin. You can't have both in the same story, Transhumanism is how Technology will Improve the Human Condition, Cyberpunk is how Technology won't make things better.

That said, you're mixing up Taylor with Bonesaw. She doesn't have the full power shard in this story, she's got a weaker bud that's in power-saving mode. She's got an advantage to the corpo teams, but not THAT much of one. Biotechnica's making a Biocomputer AI right now for example, out of mushrooms.
 
If it was regular tech you'd be right, but it isn't. It's biotech.

Everything biotech boils down to genetic code, and you can program that in any old computer and implement it in a very basic home lab. After that it literally grows itself.

That includes the ability to grow your own tools.
Yes. We can definitely make completely custom organisms with a computer and a basic lab. We do it all the time, right? Like, we don't spend BILLIONS OF DOLLARS on HYPER-ADVANCED LABORATORIES just to figure out what a SINGLE GENE DOES, do we? We can just use a computer and a basic lab to grow tech and tools for us. The knowledge isn't dumped into Taylor's head, even if Chuwurgion has that data in its storage; she still has to learn if she doesn't want to spend Tinker Sauce.
 
Yes. We can definitely make completely custom organisms with a computer and a basic lab. We do it all the time, right? Like, we don't spend BILLIONS OF DOLLARS on HYPER-ADVANCED LABORATORIES just to figure out what a SINGLE GENE DOES, do we? We can just use a computer and a basic lab to grow tech and tools for us. The knowledge isn't dumped into Taylor's head, even if Chuwurgion has that data in its storage; she still has to learn if she doesn't want to spend Tinker Sauce.

Correct. The shard brain has understanding of biology, so there's no deadweight of needing to learn what every single gene does. A shard can provide knowledge to go on a computer and physically type a genetic code in binary, 0 magic required, the same as I can type a sentence.

That's why a biotech ability is so vastly more powerful than a mechanical tech ability. There's no need for tools beyond what's already dirt cheap so the shard knowledge can be directly applied with 0 energy cost.

FLAG ON THE FIELD!

Cyberpunk and Transhumanism are specifically different sides of the coin. You can't have both in the same story, Transhumanism is how Technology will Improve the Human Condition, Cyberpunk is how Technology won't make things better.

That said, you're mixing up Taylor with Bonesaw. She doesn't have the full power shard in this story, she's got a weaker bud that's in power-saving mode. She's got an advantage to the corpo teams, but not THAT much of one. Biotechnica's making a Biocomputer AI right now for example, out of mushrooms.

And Biotechnica's spending the GDP of a medium size nation on research is only able to make an early prototype model that would get trounced by Taylor typing into a home printer, because her shard knows how biology works..

That baseline humans can survive economically in Cyberpunk at all is easily undone with some genetic code in a printer. Biotech is just too powerful.
 
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Correct. The shard brain has understanding of biology, so there's no deadweight of needing to learn what every single gene does. A shard can provide knowledge to go on a computer and physically type a genetic code in binary, 0 magic required, the same as I can type a sentence.

That's why a biotech ability is so vastly more powerful than a mechanical tech ability. There's no need for tools beyond what's already dirt cheap so the shard knowledge can be directly applied with 0 energy cost.
I was being sarcastic. You CAN'T do biotech with just a computer and a basic lab without tech more advanced than CP2077 (and thus redefining "basic lab") or shard bullshit: and while CHUWUGION knows stuff, TAYLOR doesn't, and Taylor using Chuwugion's knowledge costs tinker sauce.
 
I was being sarcastic. You CAN'T do biotech with just a computer and a basic lab without tech more advanced than CP2077 (and thus redefining "basic lab") or shard bullshit: and while CHUWUGION knows stuff, TAYLOR doesn't, and Taylor using Chuwugion's knowledge costs tinker sauce.
Keep in mind that her power is a hybrid Thinker power as well. Taylor does have a basically full knowledge of human biology, and medicine, to include genetics that she can consult anytime she wants, as if she had a really advanced medical encyclopedia in her head.

That doesn't mean she understands everything she gets though, and if she doesn't understand it completely but tries to create something anyway, that's when she uses the shard's Tinker help, not just its Thinker help.

To do what the other poster mentioned, she'd have to have a lot of understanding, not just encyclopediac knowledge, of genetics and virology. It might be possible, eventually, but that was one of the specific things I mentioned that her shard wouldn't have the energy to do itself via Tinkering magic (I gave Riley's Agnosia plague as an example.)

So to do that she'd have to hit the books, and experiment a lot, and yes probably have a lot better equipment.
 
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I was being sarcastic. You CAN'T do biotech with just a computer and a basic lab without tech more advanced than CP2077 (and thus redefining "basic lab") or shard bullshit: and while CHUWUGION knows stuff, TAYLOR doesn't, and Taylor using Chuwugion's knowledge costs tinker sauce.

You certainly can. DNA is a code that can be typed in a computer. If I had a code I wanted to use, I could physically type it into a computer.

From there, there are, in fact, very simple ways to edit genes in a small lab.

What part are you saying is impossible?
 
You certainly can. DNA is a code that can be typed in a computer. If I had a code I wanted to use, I could physically type it into a computer.

From there, there are, in fact, very simple ways to edit genes in a small lab.

What part are you saying is impossible?
The ways to edit genes in a small lab. If you consider "pushing random proteins into a cell nucleus hoping it bonds together" as editing. We can't swap nucleotides as easily as you are suggesting we can. We can barely insert or disable individual genes, and even then we have a lot of failures. The whole thing about "glow in the dark kittens" that when around like eight years ago? That was false, but the use of obvious markers for when the gene-implantation is successful is needed, and we get more failures than successes.
 
The ways to edit genes in a small lab. If you consider "pushing random proteins into a cell nucleus hoping it bonds together" as editing. We can't swap nucleotides as easily as you are suggesting we can. We can barely insert or disable individual genes, and even then we have a lot of failures. The whole thing about "glow in the dark kittens" that when around like eight years ago? That was false, but the use of obvious markers for when the gene-implantation is successful is needed, and we get more failures than successes.

Yes and no. Yes, the exact editing methods are often not entirely successful.

But no, the popularity of direct gene swaps isn't because we can't implement our own code. The main reason for direct gene swaps is WE DON'T HAVE OUR OWN CODE. Biotech is basically flying blind and hoping we throw things together that work, so of course we use direct swaps when possible because we at least know that (some) existing DNA has an effect.

But if we actually have custom code we want to implement, there are in fact ways to do that.
 
We can literally just type up some DNA and send it off to the DNA printer and just get it printed off a week or two at most and that includes shipping, I mean just look at thougt emporium YouTube channel, he did some stuff with custom DNA that he got printed
 
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