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Seeing Red [Naruto]

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Something to point out is that Jiraiya originally planned to show up alone, without a bodyguard. He might have changed his cover to fit when he changed his plans, but it's also entirely reasonable to assume that he has his own backup plans.

That said, I'd rather stick with

[x] Strike First, because no one approaching that fast has friendly intentions.

than blindly assume that Jiraiya has it under control. (He probably does, but it won't make a good impression on him if we make him use a backup plan.)
 
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I think I'm going to vote this:

[x] Strike First, because no one approaching that fast has friendly intentions.
- [x] Non-lethally, because going for a killing blow in an information gathering mission could get messy.

The update specifically calls it "combat speed", so I understand it as not just going fast, but going fast with purpose, and we already are in a shady place.

Besides, if we attack as soon as that person enters, Jiraya can just call us overeager, we are very young-looking.

Actually, @Tekomandor , can I ask to clarify if the "Strike first" necessarily involves getting out of the room?

If the attack first involves leaving the place we are to attack outside, it will be hard to say it didn't involve any sort of ninja techniques, but if it is more of a "attack as soon as whoever it is enters the room", it can be easily said we noticed someone potentially hostile and attacked.
 
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Not in Person said:
So I'm reading the two presented options as "See if they slow down to walk into the building normally" and "Strike before they can even approach the building (and thus, before they have a chance to slow down)".
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I think you're underestimating the speed that Ninja move at.

Hisana might need to start the attack while the ninja is outside the building to be able to finish it in the period between when the ninja enters the building and before they attack. As she said, "no one going that fast has friendly intentions."
 
As a counter-argument, I'm not reading "Wait and see" as in "Wait till they are withing line of sight". She already can sense the approaching person, and doesn't need to see the person slow down (or not slow down). Also, Hisana has combat experience, more than I do, and so she'd be able to practically judge at what distance it's not too late to react. And lastly, Hisana is a ninja, and so she moves at the speed of Ninja. I would even say that the odds of Hisana being able to move faster than the approaching ninja are more than 50%. Probably more than 80%.
 
Not in Person said:
As a counter-argument, I'm not reading "Wait and see" as in "Wait till they are withing line of sight". She already can sense the approaching person, and doesn't need to see the person slow down (or not slow down). Also, Hisana has combat experience, more than I do, and so she'd be able to practically judge at what distance it's not too late to react. And lastly, Hisana is a ninja, and so she moves at the speed of Ninja. I would even say that the odds of Hisana being able to move faster than the approaching ninja are more than 50%. Probably more than 80%.
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That would out us as a ninja tho. Which would break our cover.

[X] Strike First, because no one approaching that fast has friendly intentions.
 
[X] Strike First, because no one approaching that fast has friendly intentions.

I don't think either option would out her since she's limiting herself to what a Samurai can possible know or have.
 
Aranfan said:
That would out us as a ninja tho. Which would break our cover.
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Why do everythink samurais aren't fast? the leader of the samurai 1v1 freaking hanzo... just because kishi doesn't show them doesn't mean they don't exist. They're simply not the focus of the canon story. It's kind of insulting to say that she isn't allowed to move at "ninja" speed as a undercover samurai lol she just can't use ninjutsu
 
No way would a samurai bodyguard let that shit pass. Charging in like that is 100% sus enough to draw steel on them. Also, if hes actually attacking striking first just makes sense. If not they probably stop and back off when we draw on em.

If the concern is keeping cover, this is the choice. If the concern is "oh shit we bout to die" this is also the choice.

[x] Strike First, because no one approaching that fast has friendly intentions.
- [x] Non-lethally, because going for a killing blow in an information gathering mission could get messy.

Edit: the non-lethal addition makes sense.
 
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wigg55 said:
If the concern is "oh shit we bout to die" this is also the choice.
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This is definitely not the concern regardless. Hisana seems very confident that taking them out would only be an issue because she needs to keep cover.

Even if she's wrong, Jiraiya is right there and both Naruto and Sasuke are hanging around somewhere.

"We bout to die" isn't really on the table. The risk is to the cover stories and the mission.
 
GrimTheMad said:
This is definitely not the concern regardless. Hisana seems very confident that taking them out would only be an issue because she needs to keep cover.

Even if she's wrong, Jiraiya is right there and both Naruto and Sasuke are hanging around somewhere.

"We bout to die" isn't really on the table. The risk is to the cover stories and the mission.
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The "We bout to die" was more intended as "They attempt poke us full of holes via sharp metal instrument and we must defend our self's". But yes, I sincerely doubt Jiraya wishes/would let us die to keep cover.
 
Pretty sure I haven't voted yet, largely because there are good arguments for both sides, but I guess I'm doing this:

[X] Strike First, because no one approaching that fast has friendly intentions.
- [X] Non-lethally, because going for a killing blow in an information gathering mission could get messy.
 
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Tekomandor said:
Then she sensed it - a strong chakra signature, approaching at combat speed. Her whole body tensed, and she had to fight an instinctual reflex to activate her Sharingan. Defeating the person that signature belonged to without revealing herself as a ninja would be difficult, she knew, but maybe if she struck first, she could do it.
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Re-reading the update, this line to me seems to indicate that Hisana believes attacking first won't break her cover. In fact, she thinks that the best way to defeat the person coming without breaking her cover is by attacking first.

The idea to attack first is not an "I sacrifice my cover to protect Jiraya" option, it's an "If I attack first I can keep my cover and protect Jiraya".

Yeah, I will keep the Strike First option.

EDIT: Especially considering she was promoted to Chuunin, the level of ninjas who are team leaders and, therefore, should have a good idea of what can ruin a plan or not.
 
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AurelioBahamut said:
Re-reading the update, this line to me seems to indicate that Hisana believes attacking first won't break her cover. In fact, she thinks that the best way to defeat the person coming without breaking her cover is by attacking first.

The idea to attack first is not an "I sacrifice my cover to protect Jiraya" option, it's an "If I attack first I can keep my cover and protect Jiraya".

Yeah, I will keep the Strike First option.

EDIT: Especially considering she was promoted to Chuunin, the level of ninjas who are team leaders and, therefore, should have a good idea of what can ruin a plan or not.
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Remember that they are in a crowded room right now and the person she's feeling is like 50m/100feet away like 2 streets away from the building they're currently in (probably) it's a little paranoid to charge out of the building and attack someone who might not even know you or your cover exists
 
Tackyseven said:
Remember that they are in a crowded room right now and the person she's feeling is like 50m/100feet away like 2 streets away from the building they're currently in (probably) it's a little paranoid to charge out of the building and attack someone who might not even know you or your cover exists
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She's a bodyguard and the person coming is coming at combat speeds. It's a little suspect that someone would come in that quickly. Especially if Jiraya isn't expecting someone. As a bodyguard the paranoid option is usually the best option.
 
Darkcore41 said:
She's a bodyguard and the person coming is coming at combat speeds. It's a little suspect that someone would come in that quickly. Especially if Jiraya isn't expecting someone. As a bodyguard the paranoid option is usually the best option.
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But the update doesn't even say they're in the building, right now as far as she knows he'll just run past the building towards somewhere else and if they have beef with anyone in the building it's probably a local and not something she needs to even react to even if it becomes a brawl
 
AurelioBahamut said:
Re-reading the update, this line to me seems to indicate that Hisana believes attacking first won't break her cover. In fact, she thinks that the best way to defeat the person coming without breaking her cover is by attacking first.

The idea to attack first is not an "I sacrifice my cover to protect Jiraya" option, it's an "If I attack first I can keep my cover and protect Jiraya".

Yeah, I will keep the Strike First option.

EDIT: Especially considering she was promoted to Chuunin, the level of ninjas who are team leaders and, therefore, should have a good idea of what can ruin a plan or not.
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That was the same chakra signature? I don't remember reading any lines that say it was the 'large chakra signature from earlier'.
 
Tackyseven said:
But the update doesn't even say they're in the building, right now as far as she knows he'll just run past the building towards somewhere else and if they have beef with anyone in the building it's probably a local and not something she needs to even react to even if it becomes a brawl
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Most of the locals were explicitly described as weak to middling in chakra levels, with only a small number of notables. You're placing a lot on assuming a notable, approaching at combat speed, isn't going to be an issue for us.
 
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