To be honest, I'm a little tired. Every time we do this whole moral debate about us at the end of the day we get to choose how Eggman becomes at the end of the day. I feel like we should save this discussion like probably when we are at a berg serious crossroad mainly when we finally have that hedgehog in our clutches.

But I will say this we need to take care of whisper immediately, so she doesn't cause problems for us anymore we already saw what she can do. She will attack any of our publicly known heroes and I can cause very big damage so that needs to end next turn
 
Seriously though
We can be better
We wouldn't have the whole power and kindness thing is we couldn't
Well still be a villian
But we will have standards
in this situation morality and evilness has the same plan. "liberating" VC people for morals

and using them as human shields against the restoration good guys for the Villainy. especialy as we know they're unlikely to actally get hurt by the good guys.
Well, we already respect women's right so, what else then?
Racism is stupid everyone is equally inferior to Eggman. except hedgehogs screw them.
Nepotism is stupid we judge people by their actual worth not who they came form. our robo children get a pass because we built them they are obviously superior
Sexism is stupid see the above on racism everyone is equal inferior to Eggman regardless of their gender or sexual identity

Heya thread dad here again to say that while moral debates are interesting and can lead to some interesting conversations, I'll ask that people calm down with the "we're playing the bad guy so morality doesn't factor into what we do" and the "well it'd be meta gaming to try and be good"

Because it does and it isn't. You all are Eggman and you will be deciding if and how he can or even if he will change
because morality has a practical aspect to it.

if you piss off EVERYONE you'll get dogpiled. meanwhile if you at least feign morality you'll be a lower priority then the truly evil and genocidal.

We're still the bad guy but we want to be less of a target then other bad guys so we can get some breathing space and then use that breathing space to stab the good guys in the back at the right moment
 
I didn't say conquering the world is moral, I specifically said taking over the Restoration is not good. And over time we can change. Eggman will always want control, but we're trying to see if we can at least control without being a total evil asshole like some of our versions. We have good versions too, like Kintober and Tinker.
You said "convince them that what they've lost can't be salvaged without causing a lot of undue pain, at which point they will be the bad guys." I heavily object to that framing. I apologize if you didn't mean that though and were more talking about the propaganda that would be used to get people to lie their arms down.

Against us sure that's a certainty. We're never going to be able to make a lasting peace with them.

But what you have to keep in mind here is that this plan is after we've established our industry, and we actually have an army with us and we're prepared for that fight.

If we make this a defensive war that starts when we are liberating VC people and force the restorations heroes into fighting people that are just trying to get their freedom? That is a terrible thing for them to have to deal with.

Blowing up robots, they have no issues with that blowing iup innocent people fighting for a noble cause? Oh, you best believe that the good guys are going to have issues with that kind of fight.

I want you to try to figure out the situation where Tangle would be okay with killing people fighting for their freedom and the one that saved them while she did nothing.

The conflict is inevitable, so we need to make it one where we have an advantage. And the biggest I can think of Is a human shield army. At least against the restoration.

With Gun they'll kill the VC guys. But if we complicate the war and gun has to balence a fight against us with a fight against the black arms and the Empire's public image making the war unpopular.
And how are we supposed to make significant progress against Max, one of the hardest kings to remove, with only two second actions? We've been recommended before to not fight the other kings before dealing with GUN and the Restoration. Yes, they will be perfectly willing to attack Eggman while he attacking someone else because they aren't stupid. This is basic pattern recognition. How are we even supposed to get that many "VC" units anyways? We have to spend a martial action to get one unit of darcsen. That's going to do basically nothing to affect the Restoration's decision making.

I'd like to remind you of what Towers mentioned. He mentioned they had people who had come from realities where Eggman had established his reign. Among those include Archie. There's going to be people from Underground spreading word of the roboticizer. So the idea of Eggman sending innocents to fight them isn't going to be revolutionary. The Restoration is going to have people from there too. The horrors that Eggman has unleashed in victory is going to far outweigh the weight assigned to Eggman going on a freedom campaign.

Eggman also only has 7 Heart. How are we supposed to achieve this massively successful propaganda campaign? With again, only two second actions? We have an action to do that, Launch a PR campaign. It has a DC of 100 and only works on people not familiar with him, including the young. The citizens of GUN and the Restoration are not unfamiliar with Eggman.

This is entirely impractical and unintuitive.

You have heard the reports of several people coming from a similar reality to this one, but where Eggman had established his reign for a significant amount of time already.

If he was that kind of monster they were dealing with now…There would not be much to do but brace themselves for trying times.

I mean, what's the point of being a king if there's nobody to boss around?
As I said, right now. And we have people to boss around right now. We'll get more when we defeat GUN and the Restoration.
 
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Fine, new topic!

We are assuming that Dural is gonna do a fighting tournament for a Chaos Emerald. Naturally, we'll show up. But who should we be watching out for at said tourney?
 
Fine, new topic!

We are assuming that Dural is gonna do a fighting tournament for a Chaos Emerald. Naturally, we'll show up. But who should we be watching out for at said tourney?
Well, any fighting game characters like from Mr. X we still don't know if that guy has found the chaos emerald yet because the QMS a while ago did say he was on a roll. Finding it

We should also watch out for an old man and a bear
 
Assuming you get to send 2-3 contestants, who all would you guys send AND is there any consideration for Eggman getting in the ring himself?
 
Assuming you get to send 2-3 contestants, who all would you guys send AND is there any consideration for Eggman getting in the ring himself?
Eggman only has a power of 18 and i doubt we can bring a mech

maybe if we unlock the Speed power and flight cores? we get those we can whip up the tricore that starline made and probably style on some fools

besides that Cannan and rose would proably be our best picks
 
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Assuming you get to send 2-3 contestants, who all would you guys send AND is there any consideration for Eggman getting in the ring himself?
Alas, I don't think Eggman could hang with the types to show up! Especially without his wrestling moves!

We'll send Metal and Storm of course. Not sure about the third slot.

Would it be a team based competition, or singles?
 
No, of course not. Why would Eggman ever get in the ring? El Gran Gordo, on the other hand...

Who we send depends a bit on the rules. For example, if it's no weapons allowed and one vs ones only, that rules out Clove, since she'd probably lose quite a bit of ability without her weapon and/or Cassia.

I'd think Metal, Conquering Storm and Majima (assuming we get him).

Otherwise, maybe Honey? She's not the strongest martial unit we have, but she is a martial artist who might get something out of it and we probably don't want to send all our strongest Power units. Another option could be Rusty, if she gets the upgrade that gives her a buff for rematches. Good chance that whoever we see fight in a tournament could show up again.
 
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