….. OK let me put it in better terms. How do we free our egg boss that doesn't require her to get spotted by the restoration because I really want to get that egg boss achievement
Well we'll need to send someone that doesn't look like to be part of our group for one, so probably have to send someone new to get her, since Whisper would probably tell the restoration of what heroes we have under our employment.
 
….. OK let me put it in better terms. How do we free our egg boss that doesn't require her to get spotted by the restoration because I really want to get that egg boss achievement
I mean, she's already under observation. They'll know if she bails. We may have to just accept that they'll be pissed about it.

And that's if she even agrees to come back. She was only on board with us to limit the damage we were doing. The math has changed radically.
My favorite interpretation of Surge pre Transformation:
I can't do a Sad reaction, but know I am sad.
 
Unfortunately, given her prior ties they would still suspect it us who freed her so the DC would still raise even if it only a bit.
…. Dammit you have a point, but I still want to get her she was a cool character in the Archie comics real interesting premise plus we actually do have a pretty high chance of getting her out
My favorite interpretation of Surge pre Transformation:

……. It's going to hurt when Starline finally gets his personal action done of finding test subjects….. but unfortunately… it's a canon event

I mean, she's already under observation. They'll know if she bails. We may have to just accept that they'll be pissed about it.

And that's if she even agrees to come back. She was only on board with us to limit the damage we were doing. The math has changed radically.

I can't do a Sad reaction, but know I am sad.
… I mean, she always join us because it's better to be a minion for us than being against us
 
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Well we'll need to send someone that doesn't look like to be part of our group for one, so probably have to send someone new to get her, since Whisper would probably tell the restoration of what heroes we have under our employment.

Belle than?

She would have to use every but of Charisma Heart she has to somehow get our favorite bird out of her cage, but it could work... maybe?
 
Regarding clovtol (Clove x piastol ship name)
I can see it starting when they spar together
Also I can definitely see piastol being a little weirded out st first
 
I mean, we can try to make a deal with rogue to probably get our favorite vulture out of the restoration since she was a member of the resistance. Have to talk with gun goes well. We essentially get two hero units for the price of nothing. Well, maybe a cease-fire and promised to help shadow but we still get some good things out of this.
 
Also how tall is piastol exactly?
Cause she's described as being tall
I'm just thinking of the hilarious height difference where piastol can just carry Clove around
Cause mobians are like 3 to 3.5 feet tall
 
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Don't you think you are exaggerating a little?

True Chuck has insights on Eggman's technology but is not a whole lot, GUN already manage to crack Eggtech somewhat so that's not even somethign new. Also Eggman infrastructure is being controlled by that virus and Eggman probably leave all his notes and blueprints behind on his base that the Deadly Six are current using so Chuck is not building robots and other stuff from scratch while we can do it with our barehands. The only thing Chuck would need to do was give a look at the plans and notes the doctor left behind, like Silver Sonic, and build the thing, that stealth technology was a invention of his own but is nothing game changing.

Also you have to remember study the mysteries of life is Eggman whole gimmick if the GUN or the Restoration have the Lance to study the only thing they would get is some new insights on ragnite and some new questions, we are the ones that are capable to replicate the lance and Valkrya technology from old.

At best GUN would get from Zomon would come up with ways to stop they own robots to be controlled by the Zeti. We would be the ones that open options to replicate the effects of Zeti powers.

Sure both GUN and the Restoration is dangerous but Eggman is a whole another level and his technology is extremely advanced even Tails struggle with them most of time and we have optiosn to even make the standard outdated by goign to Rings and ragnite.

Also there's X!GUN that manage to perfectly reversed engineer one of Eggman's Super Badniks in Sonic X, our tech already been cracked wheater we like it or not.
Note that I was pointing out the risks, I was not saying we shouldn't do it. I'm not sure about it. Saying their are minimal risks to handing Chuck over does not make me feel warm about the proposal! Being able to hack the Eggnet and transfer the loyalty of all the badniks and infrastructure is hardly "not a whole lot." That demonstrates a significant understanding of Eggman's technology! I'm not aware of that feat being replicated by anyone else. Chuck being able to see the notes and blueprints means that he direct insights into Eggman's processes! Sure, once Eggman gets back into power, he'll have Sage to help him contest these sort of attempts. But that doesn't mean the threat is any less real.

Yes, Eggman says that he is the only person capable of understanding the true mysteries of life. Don't you think you should pause a minute and ask whether he might be a tad biased in that declaration? Regarding the ragnite, Eggman said that he was thankful that the Empire ran on WW2 technology and that someone with modern technology could do terrifying things with it. GUN has modern technology. Sure, Eggman will have an easier time of it. But it's not about to be impossible for other factions if we hand them the ability on a silver platter.

You're making contradictory arguments. That it is simultaneously impossible to approach Eggman's technology, while pointing to people who had managed to do that same thing. Again, we're talking about a man who did manage to use Eggman's technology! Do you think Eggman would have thought it possible for his badniks to be subverted on such a wide scale until they were?

I've been thinking more about it, and I'd be surprised if GUN was even open to the idea. They know that the second Chuck is gone and shares his technology with Eggman, Eggman will then take over all the suborned infrastructure. They know they are on Eggman's list. I doubt they would want to hasten their reckoning so much. GUN benefits significantly from Zavok and Eggman being locked in combat.
 
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Bitter Memories
Bitter Memories


Commander Towers stood on the balcony of GUN's central command, his gaze fixed on the moon. It was whole once more thanks to the cosmic rearrangements of the Shattering. He found it ironic that an event as chaotic and destructive as the Shattering would restore something tied to his past so intimately.

His parents had called him the Child of the Stars, the first human born on space. It had been a mark of pride for them, a symbol of human progress. For him, it was a weight. The Space Colony ARK incident, fifty years ago to this day, was his anchor to those stars, forever pulling him back into a gravity of regret and loss. Tonight, as he did every year, he indulged in his ritual of quiet remembrance, staring at the moon in silent communion with the past.

The soft chime of the door behind him broke his reverie. He didn't turn, already knowing who it was. The measured yet hesitant footsteps confirmed his suspicion.

"Commander Walters," Towers said without looking away from the moon. "What brings you here?"

Walters, his counterpart from another universe brought into this world by the Shattering, joined him on the balcony. He carried a similar somber air, though his was tinged with the guilt of a man who had long borne a heavy sin.

"You know why," Walters replied, his voice rough. "The ceasefire proposal."

Towers sighed, his posture stiffening. "And they still don't like it."

"No," Walters admitted. "Most of the others think it's madness to even consider working with Dr. Eggman. That's not even counting Director Jewel, she nearly had a meltdown over the idea."

"I can understand her reaction," Towers said, finally turning to face Walters. "But she's still a civilian at the end of day. She hasn't seen what I seen, hasn't read the casualty reports the first time the Black Arms invaded, she lived to it but I have to lead a war that GUN, no the world, almost lost."

"I managed to convince the Restoration to hold back, at least for now," Walters said. "Not that it was easy."

Towers allowed a faint, bitter smile. "The Restoration is admirable, but they're untested in war such as this. The Black Arms aren't a foe you defeat with idealism or stubbornness. Truth is, Eggman's intellect is much more important than whatever scheme he is plotting at the moment."

Walters nodded slowly. "My own Robotnik wasn't much different. I once call him a lab rat with teeth. Dangerous, unpredictable, but invaluable when the chips were down." He hesitated before adding, "Funny how events still correlate, even with the Shattering."

Towers gave him a sidelong glance. He knew what Walters was referring to. Months ago, the other commander had confided in him about his own version of the ARK incident. It wasn't something Towers liked to think about, but the details had stuck.

It was idiotic, it was stupid, it was illogical but...

When he told you that, a rage overcome you. You almost pull out your sidearm and put a bullet on him.

Worst part is...

You aren't sure if Walters would try to stop you or welcome it.

Ever since then, off hours relationship between you two were awkward to say the least.

"You were there," Towers said quietly. "When it happened."

Walters exhaled heavily. "Not in your version. But yes, in mine. I was one of the soldiers sent to arrest Gerald Robotnik. One of the idiots in my squad let things spiral out of control." His voice faltered. "I tried to stop it. To stop him. But…"

Towers's fists clenched. The bitterness in his chest flared, though he kept his voice measured. "But you couldn't."

Walters shook his head, his eyes haunted. "No. The gun misfire and hit one canister or something and the lab exploded not long after. I keep this with me as a reminder." He reached into his pocket and pulled out a small, silver slip with a blue circle int he center. "The activation key for the Eclipse Cannon for my universe, all GUN commanders have to carry it. It's useless now, but I carry it anyway. A reminder."

Towers stared at the key, a mix of emotions swirling within him. Walters hadn't been part of his ARK, it was foolish to hold contempt to him, still the bitterness lingered.

"I'll never forgive what happened on the ARK," Towers said, his voice hard. "Not in my world. Not in yours. But I understand the weight you carry."

"I don't expect forgiveness," Walters said quietly. "But I hope we can prevent more tragedies like it."

Towers nodded, his gaze drifting back to the moon. "Then we have to stop fighting among ourselves and focus on what's important. Eggman is a monster, there's no denying that, but we'll need every resource we can muster to survive what's coming."

The two men stood in silence for a moment, the weight of their shared histories pressing down on them.

"My parents's used to call me Child of the Stars" You aren't sure why you are telling him that, maybe you just want to try to change the subject or maybe something else entirely.

"Really?"

Towers glanced at him, a faint smile tugging at his lips. "Yes. It's ironic, isn't it? To be born among the stars, only to see them as a reminder of how far we've fallen."

Walters pocketed the key, his expression thoughtful. "Maybe. Or maybe it's a reminder of how far we can still rise."

Towers didn't respond immediately, but as he stared at the moon, he allowed himself a sliver of hope. Perhaps Walters was right. Perhaps the stars still held a future worth fighting for.



Edit: Don't know if some of the lore about Sonic 3 movie will be used in this quest but if does. I imagine that Towers and Walters have a very interesting off hours relationship. They are professional to not let affect they work at least.

Walters open some wounds of Towers about something he will never be able to forgive, frankly I very much expected Towers signed up to GUN initially to be able to figure out what happen in the Ark. While Towers open some wounds Walters very much want to leave in the past and if anyone actually deserve to get revenge on him would be his Shadow and Towers, even though Abraham is from the other universe.

Basically Walters, once he find out the background of Towers, told him about his own version of the Ark Incident since the guy, in my opinion, is a mess of guilty and would not feel right to keep this secret from another survivor of the Ark Incident. Don't actually help Walters also knew his own version of Marie Robotnik and play a hand in her death, no matter accidental.
 
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Speaking of which, I wonder what the Freedom Fighters and other characters that had to resist Robotnik/Eggman think of the truce idea, cause I can see a lot of them against it and some being reluctant to agree with it.
 
Speaking of which, I wonder what the Freedom Fighters and other characters that had to resist Robotnik/Eggman think of the truce idea, cause I can see a lot of them against it and some being reluctant to agree with it.
There are A LOT of Freedom Fighter chapters...in both versions of the Archie Comics, Fleetway, and IDW.

But a lot of them would be against it on principle...but when faced with the madhouse that is reality....Even THEY might have to swallow their pride (and a lot of bile) and agree to a cease-fire...
 
Guardians and Empires Truce at Last?
You were Abraham Towers, and you were hoping for the best here.



A lot of people under your command were completely against this. Walters was immediately on edge, and your young new head scientist damn near mutinied at the idea of having to work with Eggman in any capacity. Thankfully, those completely loyal to you or at least the job outnumbered those against you just enough things were gotten under control.



GUN was a mess. You could accept that ultimately. It was a hodgepodge of warring egos kept together mostly by a shared desire to do good. It didn't help that Eggman's massacre meant those from your original world were about a dozen or so old guards that had been too old to fight and some rookies who had fled to fight another day.



You don't blame them.



Eggman was not a merciful man. You knew that better than anyone besides perhaps Sonic himself.



But he was also a man of great brilliance and resourcefulness, with a dangerous "Us vs. Them" mentality. If left to his own devices, he would surely rise to power again, and there was no telling what he would do then. It was easier to partner with him, at least long enough to get a feel for how to better handle him in this Shattered new world. Perhaps he could even join forces with you once more to deal with Black Doom.



Someone had suggested just shooting him, and you nearly lost your composure.



You still could hear in your mind Walters preaching every meeting how they should push more against Zavok and wipe them out completely, maybe even push for a more "Agressive" peace with the Restoration if they weren't willing to complain…



Never again. Eggman was not an individual you could go half cocked and expect to win, no matter how easy Sonic made it look. If things came to it, then you shall fight and don't let history repeat itself, you won't let a madman with desires of grandeur destroy them a second time and proceed to take over the world, but right now, facing each other would only weaken their current position, and with Shadow assisting Black Doom, such an opening is not something you could afford.



It took both the Restoration and G.U.N. combined effort to almost eradicate the Black Arms, just before Eggman came and finished the job.



A small part of you couldn't help but think that if Rouge had acted differently that day that she found "Mister Tinker", then perhaps this world would be free of the menace known as Eggman.



But no, you couldn't hold Rouge responsible for that, she did what she thought was best at the time… and so were you currently.



Taking a small squad of your most loyal soldiers and setting straight towards the former territory of the Black Arms…now where the "Eggman Empire" is supposed to be you couldn't help but grimace. You have heard the reports of several people coming from a similar reality to this one, but where Eggman had established his reign for a significant amount of time already.



If he was that kind of monster they were dealing with now…There would not be much to do but brace themselves for trying times.



But they would endure, no matter what, G.U.N had a responsibility to the world and they would uphold it.



And so, that's why you and your chosen squad stood at the edge of Eggman's territory, waiting for a response.



Across the scenery, the effects of the previous battles that took place was noticeable, and while the scraps of the Badniks have been removed, Eggman hadn't had the chance to clean it up, you wonder why?



What happened at the end of the fight?



(Line Break)



You were the one, the only, the great, Doctor Eggman!



…And you were not having a good time.



Usually, achieving a crushing defeat on your enemies would get you celebrating and boasting for hours, and you were about to do so…



If a goddamn sniper hadn't shot you right at the end!



It hurts for Chaos sake! In all your years of fighting the hedgehog, you can say you never had the pleasure to get shot…well, apparently there are first times for everything.



Luckily, that platypus was good for something and with your precious Daughter giving the warning, he was able to retrieve you quickly and bring you to the base med-bay.



It was a close thing but using most of the base's resources, the remaining ragnaids and with the help of Piastol's weird mutt, you were able to make a recovery.



Your chest still hurts and unfortunately, it would still take some time before you were fully recovered, but alas, there was no rest for the brilliant minds!



(Eggman is currently at 2 HP!)



Even if you should be resting right now, there were many projects that required your attention, some you could leave to others, some needed your direct supervision.



Handling the captured Zeti, fixing Metal Sonic, going throught the reports the bounty hunter gave Sage about that Fortune Teller.



There were several things you would prefer to handle. Instead, you had to deal with…this.



"Sage…dear, could you be so kind as to repeat what you say? I think I might have not heard you correctly." You ask again, your mood foul already. You have been spending your day checking the newest biodata that Metal collected from that weird Deathhound, when your daughter notified you of this sudden development.



"Yes, Father." Your daughter nods, repeating what she said with a mixture of calmness and…was that wariness you notice? "Since half an hour ago, a squad of G.U.N operatives has been sighted on the edge of your territory."



"Those annoying suits have finally come to bother me?" You ask as you stroke your mustache. " Bah! I'm not in the mood to entertain them! Just…send the remaining Badniks and Rusty to finish them off." You quickly inform Sage, your aching chest reminded you, that you were not at your 100% condition.



"Understood Father, I shall handle it then." She replies dutifully, ready to help you in your current condition. Awww, what a precious child! "I also need to inform you that G.U.N Commander Abraham Towers was sighted leading the group." Wait what?



"Wait what?" You say surprised. As you fully stop what you were doing and access the security cameras, getting visuals on the troops. "Egad! What in the name of Chaos is going on?"



A moment later you see it, several military vehicles parked in clear view, several soldiers outside, making a perimeter, and in the center of it…



"Towers…eh?" You remember the Commander of G.U.N. when you wiped out the organization just before the Shattering, killing him and the remnants of that pitiful organization. The Shaterring must have brought him back…



"And they have been just there? Out in the open?" You confit with your daughter one more time.



"Correct Father, they have stayed there exactly 35 minutes and 24 seconds. She informs you as you stroke your mustache, deep in thought. "I… I think that They might want an audience with you?"



"What would those pathetic militar men want? Their turn to be crushed shall come soon." You grumble as you ponder if it could be easier to just send badniks to end them…



"Ahhhh blast it!" You say, deciding to humor them. "At the very least, I will be able to mock them before killing them one more time." You decide to humor them this one time.



"Father…are you planning to go out by yourself?" Your daughter asks…a hint of worry evident in her voice.



You were about to retort that yes, of course you would show yourself, but before you can mutter those words, you remember how worried Sage was when she saw what happened to you…You didn't want to worry her even more.



It's not the duty of the father to burden their child like this…



You sigh. "Not this time, just…send a drone or something like that. I still want to talk with that Commander." You order as you send a message to Stone to bring another cup of coffee, you think you will probably need it.



"At once, Father!"



(Line Break)



It was almost an hour since you arrived here that the madman decided to respond. One of your soldiers quickly notified you of an approaching drone, baring the smiling Sigil of Eggman.



Taking out your binoculars, you were able to confirm it…This was a more quiet greeting than you expected, you will not lie.



You order your soldiers to not shoot it down and let it approach you, steeling yourself for the upcoming talk.



Once the drone was just a few meters away from you, the drone opened itself, revealing a large screen that lit up a few seconds later. The visage of Eggman greet you immediately.



"Ahhhh, Commander Towers! So nice to see you!" The doctor gives you a wide grin as he inspects you. "I must say, the Shattering did a great job for you…coming back from the dead is quite a thing, isn't it? Hahahahahahaha!" The egg shaped person mocks you, giving a belittling laugh.



"Eggman…" You simply reply, it still stung, you will not lie, knowing how he eradicated all of you single handedly… It might have been a future version of you, or even one from an alternate reality, but still, the fact it did happen speaks volumes of how far he was willing to go… "I see you were victorious from your encounter with Zavok." You decide to comment instead, not willing to humor him.



"Ahhh yes…" The doctor clenches his teeth, you assumed that the Alien managing to take over the remains of his Empire would be a tough pill to swallow. "That Zeti might be able to enjoy what is mine, but make no mistake, once I'm done with him, I will finish what I started with your lot." He sneers at you, trying an usual intimidation tactic, but you won't cower to the likes of him.



You just close eyes and take a deep breath, such genius, used like this…was he really Maria's cousin? You still couldn't understand how.



You odeon them again and you stare at the monster right in his eyes. "Enough games and posturing Eggman. I did not come here to waste both of your time."



"Oh, is that so?" He gives a little smirk as he cocks his head. "So tell me, why are here then?"



"The Black Arms are back Eggman. Black Doom is back." You grit your teeth as you say the last piece of information. "Shadow is working with them…"



He snorts. "I already knew that, simpleton, don't you remember it was me that kicked them off from here?"



"I know…and that's the reason I am here." You start before taking a deep breath. "Eggman, I don't come here looking for a fight, instead, I'm here to request your assistance for fighting the Black Arms…Black Doom is a threat to all living beings on this planet."



The man stares at you for a second, before his eyes widen…and then he starts laughing. "Oh Chaos! Hahahahahahahaha!!! You are serious?!" A sound of something being hit could be heard from the monitor.



"Is this your idea of a joke?" He asks you, once his laughter subsides, shaking his head lightly as he looks at you once again. "I know, during the Black Arms invasion, we all had to work together to fend them off. It was… interesting." He comments, but you know very well that he realizes that if all of you hadn't cooperated together, the world would have been destroyed.



"But that was then, this is the now! The Black Arms are in my list of priorities, but there are other names I need to cross first. They will get their due soon!" He exclaims with a serious voice as he glares at you.



"Besides, do you seriously expect to buddy up and work together? Hsve you been listening to Sonic's speeches?" He makes a brief and short laugh. "Perhaps if G.U.N were to join my glorious Empire I would consider letting you-" You stop him right there.



"Never" You shout steel to him, making him stop talking, seeing the enraged look on his face you continue. "G.U.N. might have been destroyed by you in your past, you might still continue with your insane plans of world domination…you might have machines of destruction to do your bidding, but forget about us ever submitting to you!"



"Enough games Eggman! Black Doom is back! Shadow has allied with him… Sonic is nowhere to be seen! If we don't stand together, then we will be easy prey to him!" You give him a disappointing stare. "Our fight may continue until one of us is eradicated, but surely you can recognize he is the bigger threat right?"



He just stares at you, expression annoyed that you didn't go along with his banter, and then blows air. "Fine, I will…give you that. That alien will be a tough nut to crack, but once I get my payback on Zavok, I will be able to focus full time on him! After all, we both know Black Doom0's goal's don't we? It's easy to make some preparations…"



"You mean how you possess one of the Emeralds he is looking for?" At the widening of his eyes you continue. "That Starline wasn't as careful in retrieving the emerald…nor he covered his traces completely…once we identified him in the Auction alongside Agent Stone and Mercenary Canaan…and that announcement from a few weeks ago, it became very obvious." You stare at him, as he gritted his teeth, annoyed at having one of his trump cards revealed.



"Fine, I won't confirm or deny that, but still! I admit, habing your's or the Restoration assistance could help things a bit, I'm not doing too bad myself eh?" He smirks at you, you couldn't helo but frown.



"That won't matter soon…if the news we have been getting of Black Doom throught that channel are true, the rest of the world hasn't been faring as well as you might think." At that Eggman looks uncertain, you notice this.



"Evila's news? That channel?" You ask again for confirmation. "...You have not checked it?" You could not believe this.



"I have been busy!" He replies petulantly.

"You shake your head. "It doesn't matter…look I will keep this simple. We want your help in fighting against the black arms…maybe even in dealing with Shadow." You say, a part of you torn.

"Oh that…I have to admit, dealing with the Ultimate Lifeform will be…interesting." Eggman muses.

"We are not sure why Shadow switched sides…we hope Black Doom is controlling him somehow…but if its the worst case escenario, we have a kill order on him." You close your regretful that it came to this.

"So what will it be Eggman? Will you assist us and join forces agains the Black Arms? Keep in mind we won't just Let you act freely as you wish…but in these times… all assistance is needed."

Eggman Just stares at you, expression unreadable.

What is Eggman's response.
[ ] No! (You kick GUN out, you Dont need their assistance!)
[ ] Yes (When the Black Arms return, you and GUN will collaborate to fight them, collaboration next turn to study the Black Arms, material)
-[ ] with some conditions (write in: warning depending what is asked, heart check only with Eggman stats will happen. If not meet the condition Wont happen)
 
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