Wouldn't be surprised if Isendral's reminiscing in her garden isn't any sabotage by Slaneesh, but simple Eldar nature.
That would make it scarier, honestly. It would explain why was Slaneesh born and nobody noticed until it was too late.

The weight of their past lives and brightness of their memories. The dullness of eternity and the strain of everyday mundanity.

The former blinds them to what is literally in front of them. The latter pushes them into hands of the one corrupting them.
 
Just blitzed the whole thing and I'm curious whatall we can do with our fancy new Web Magnitude. For example, we know Geomantic Rituals can function outside the reach of the Web, so could rituals be used to extend the benefit of the Web further to cover enemy territory or bolster construction of new nodes? I'm also curious about how our increased Geomantic potency will boost things like spawning research and such. Perhaps we can wrap up Fungus Amungus and use it to target a Geomantic ritual to kill the supporting orkoid ecosystem, crippling the WAAAGH! and preventing further spawns from lengthening the cleanup process.
 
Just blitzed the whole thing and I'm curious whatall we can do with our fancy new Web Magnitude. For example, we know Geomantic Rituals can function outside the reach of the Web, so could rituals be used to extend the benefit of the Web further to cover enemy territory or bolster construction of new nodes? I'm also curious about how our increased Geomantic potency will boost things like spawning research and such. Perhaps we can wrap up Fungus Amungus and use it to target a Geomantic ritual to kill the supporting orkoid ecosystem, crippling the WAAAGH! and preventing further spawns from lengthening the cleanup process.
Funny enough that's already the plan. Geomantic rituals can be used to temporarily boost the Web level, and we're gonna be using the warboss as the focus of a ritual to basically headbang all the orks under him, which is why we are preparing for literally all of the orks to start attacking us.
 
With her quite literal soulmate husband possibly dead, a treacherous space knife ear behind the scenes, and the ever looming malaise of the present compared to a more dynamic past. Isendral is in a really emotional and existential position. Then enter Qur-zhiosti of the Fifth Spawning, a chubby but well meaning psychic supercomputer spacefrog leaning how to be a person and was taught the beauty of walking in mud by her. Bonding over a hatred of chaos and the beauty of badass biology.

....... @Xantalos? This is honestly a good setup for a romance. "Can Love Bloom in a Savage Jungle" Haha.

I'm kidding but I think an honestly healthy way for Isendral to cope with her existential malaise is to continue teaching the Lizardmen via Qur-zhiosti how to person as sharing and teaching the beauty in things to another is another form of fulfillment a being can strive for. Also any opportunity to smother Slaneesh is good for me.
 
....... @Xantalos? This is honestly a good setup for a romance. "Can Love Bloom in a Savage Jungle" Haha.
As far as crack fics go, it wouldn't be that far out of the realm of plausibility. Qur-zhiosti, Ahi-Mun, or even Mazdamundi himself would all fit fairly decently into such a role, albeit with somewhat different dynamics for each. Having Mazdamundi and Isendral in the same room would definitely provoke both of them to have an aloof, brusque, mysterious elder contest with each other, for example.

As for how Isendral might be helped with her malaise… there's ways, but I'll leave it to you guys to figure out.
 
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Funny enough that's already the plan. Geomantic rituals can be used to temporarily boost the Web level, and we're gonna be using the warboss as the focus of a ritual to basically headbang all the orks under him, which is why we are preparing for literally all of the orks to start attacking us.
Neato. I'm having trouble finding where the discussion took place though, if you could point me in the general direction.
Some additional ponderings:
How much contact do we have with the Starwalkers? Like, finishing spawning pools let us transmit those techniques, but we can't consult them on research or ask if they have a better view on the coming storm or what have you. Could we do some variant of what Isendral did to call her ex? Like, not being here and able to help with war or rituals or dedicate themselves to research is reasonable, but it might be nice to have lines of communication anyway.
What happens if you hook a god up to the Web?
What happens if we infuse Winds into non-skink castes? They probably won't be as versatile as Priests but instinctive combat or architectural magic could be neat.
Maybe we should consult the First Gen Relic Priests on some of the research projects related to the Great Plan or Spawning. I bet the liminal minds of our eldest siblings have a ton of insight into the soul structure, for example.
Maybe stick a third gen on deciphering the prophecy too. Like, the storm might be related to Slannesh or it might be more tied to how Isendral is going to tantrum spiral when she finds out her fun little bioweapon got her husband killed by orks or something.
Is the +60% combat strength/endurance from the raw energy boosts, the Geomantic enchantments or both?
 
Ohhh, I see what's going on! Xantalos is finally getting us to play with our biomancy toys by making it a way to generate Trust! Clever, clever. /jk
 
How much contact do we have with the Starwalkers? Like, finishing spawning pools let us transmit those techniques, but we can't consult them on research or ask if they have a better view on the coming storm or what have you. Could we do some variant of what Isendral did to call her ex? Like, not being here and able to help with war or rituals or dedicate themselves to research is reasonable, but it might be nice to have lines of communication anyway.
You've a limited degree of communication with them - not enough to have a conversation, but enough that vital information can be conveyed, like general situation and whatnot. They haven't checked in for a few decades, but none of them are dead (well, none who weren't already), you'd have felt it.

What happens if you hook a god up to the Web?
You already do this, actually - it's part of what lets you change them on a whim, and gives them a bit of a power boost.

What happens if we infuse Winds into non-skink castes? They probably won't be as versatile as Priests but instinctive combat or architectural magic could be neat.
I want to do something like this, but I gotta spend some time contemplating how to make it fit. Probably something that'll happen during the timeskip between story arcs.

Is the +60% combat strength/endurance from the raw energy boosts, the Geomantic enchantments or both?
Just the raw energy boosts - geomantic enchantments let those buffs apply to your equipment as well.
 
With her quite literal soulmate husband possibly dead, a treacherous space knife ear behind the scenes, and the ever looming malaise of the present compared to a more dynamic past. Isendral is in a really emotional and existential position. Then enter Qur-zhiosti of the Fifth Spawning, a chubby but well meaning psychic supercomputer spacefrog leaning how to be a person and was taught the beauty of walking in mud by her. Bonding over a hatred of chaos and the beauty of badass biology.

....... @Xantalos? This is honestly a good setup for a romance. "Can Love Bloom in a Savage Jungle" Haha.

I'm kidding but I think an honestly healthy way for Isendral to cope with her existential malaise is to continue teaching the Lizardmen via Qur-zhiosti how to person as sharing and teaching the beauty in things to another is another form of fulfillment a being can strive for. Also any opportunity to smother Slaneesh is good for me.

As far as crack fics go, it wouldn't be that far out of the realm of plausibility. Qur-zhiosti, Ahi-Mun, or even Mazdamundi himself would all fit fairly decently into such a role, albeit with somewhat different dynamics for each. Having Mazdamundi and Isendral in the same room would definitely provoke both of them to have an aloof, brusque, mysterious elder contest with each other, for example.

As for how Isendral might be helped with her malaise… there's ways, but I'll leave it to you guys to figure out.
You find out that following his death, Isendral's husband was somehow reincarnated into a psychic robot frogman from another dimension. After a rigorous investigation was conducted by Isendral and the Slann to find out how this happened, the mastermind of the plot was uncovered by following a trail of trashy fanfics on webway.net:

"Damn it Loec!"
 
so first things first @Xantalos I dont remember if it has been asked before but since the "teleporting the boss to itza at the last second to start the ritual" plan is a go, would we be able to make a sacred site on itza before we teleport him and the orks start to swarm the city? (as the mon keigh say and I think the lizardmen would agree better safe than sorry, specially when it comes to itza's safety)
Let's be nice to Isendral
With that out of the way here's what I am arguing...I think that we should interact with Isendral again next turn *raises hands upon feeling the dozens of counter arguments being formed within the sublime chat* I know, I know we will already be streched thin enough with the ritual and all the new research actions (that i just know everybody is gonna be fighting with tooth and nail for every available slaan just to finish their favourite one in one turn) but i seriously think it has merit, thanks to our previous actions the lizardmen finally trust Isendral enough that they are willing to tell her about The Enemy and Theory of Eight Winds, these two options I think are the most beneficial for her rigth now because as this interlude has shown us Isendral is in a delicate place right now and I think we can all agree that there are 3 likely reasons: -chaos god influence from either nugle or slaanesh, although one would think that slaanesh is the obvious culprit here the fact is that chaos god or not they are not born yet and the way Isendrals actions (or inactions) are described fits his concepts a little too well to my liking (a garden, lethargy, happy but not healthy thoughts etc.) plus it makes sense when you think about it, during the fall of the eldar empire nurgle stoped slaanesh right before they could devour isha which means that he had been preparing for slaanesh´s birth and the oportunity to take isha for himself so keeping a close eye on her priestess doens´t seem far-fetched -the Muses influence, for those that dont know the muses are basically the embodiments of everything wrong with the eldar think of a bunch of little khaine´s more numerous but also (thankfully) much weaker, they are the patron gods of the dark eldar and (if our theories are rigth) the main reason the eldars have not realised yet that a fricking chaos god is about to be born right above their homeworlds, they think that they can either control or benefit from the birth of slaanesh, and it has been proven that at least 1 of their followers hates Isendral´s husband and possibly their spouse enough to send mercenaries to kill him -and last but sadly not the least its that Isendral could just be tired and bored of life, the world she guards and cares for has changed drastically in a very short amount of time, she thinks her husband the only being that has stood along side her and love her for millenia has seemingly (from her point of view) abandon her without even saying goodbye nor giving and explantion to why, but even without all of that think about it for a second she is an eldar a ancient eldar she has lived for thousands of years and has seen and expercienced things beyond the imagination of most mortal beings after all of that the routine of day to day life will inevitably become dull my hope is that with this knowlegde 2 of these 3 posible reasons wil be covered or at least lessened in effect wth the enemy she will be better protected against the influence any chaos god could have on her not to mention actually teaching her how to defend against slaanesh ( remember they havent been born yet so no metods of proteccion against their influence have been developed yet) and the theory of the eight winds should allow her to find a new way of seeing things that should help her recover part of her apreciation of the wonders of reality in exchange for it I think we could get informantion on things that interest the lizardmen and could help us on the long therm at no cost, The Old Ones: Your long-lost makers. What does she know of them? and Interstellar Overview: Lizardmen expansion into the greater galactic landscape will be a necessary step towards finding the Old Ones. Information on Mochantia's nearby surroundings, as well as its position in the galaxy itself, would be beneficial. both options that shouldn´t be too personal for her to answer if we should also tell her about the hull or not ill leave to the wiser and more strategically minded
 
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You've a limited degree of communication with them - not enough to have a conversation, but enough that vital information can be conveyed, like general situation and whatnot. They haven't checked in for a few decades, but none of them are dead (well, none who weren't already), you'd have felt it.
Can we set up more consistent communication? Like, if we use what Isendral made as basis for making our own psychic ansible would we be able to keep up a conversation? If so, what benefits would that have other than morale?
You already do this, actually - it's part of what lets you change them on a whim, and gives them a bit of a power boost.
Do we have the divine knowhow to juice them with rituals or would that require more research? Or explode them.
Just the raw energy boosts - geomantic enchantments let those buffs apply to your equipment as well.
So 256% total boost inside the web? Hot dog.
How much space would a Magnitude 3 ritual be able to bring into the Web for a single turn?
Can Rituals be used to boost research? Either to manifest potent analysis spells, run costly experiments, or just straight up buff the Slann?
Can we use Rituals to build cities? And if so, would each city need to be a separate Mag 1 Ritual or could the higher magnitudes produce more? If the latter, would they be limited to producing their equivalent in Mag 1 rituals or would the numbers be as exponential as the area?
How much more badass are the starwalkers with what we've sent them? Considering how much of a boost VIEST is and that they could spend a turn cranking out the output of a Level 5 Web 5 city.
Do we know the cost/benefit analysis of letting a Slann join Ayotzl rather than become a Relic Priest? Would the spiritual effort saved by not having to maintain their own stability, being sheltered within the great shell, outweigh, or at least equalize, the more limited access to the Materium?
Are the principles of the WAAAAGH! compatible with our own teamwork modifiers or do the Web and Communion basically cover all the same bases?
How powerful would a WAAAAGH! need to be for us to refine it into a Godseed?
 
Next turn we *must* do that shiny rock. If that's Isendral's husband's soul stone then we need to know. And she needs to know.

One of the most immediate ways we have of derailing Slaanesh's birth is Isendral rallying her allies and going after the Dark Muses for their shenanigans. We can follow up and help against the warp tumor that is gestating Slaanesh.

We should both do the rock and talk to Isendral.

Edit: Frankly, learning whatever the rock is for sure is more important than almost any other research we could do. If it turns out that the rock is a soul stone with Isendal's husband in it, we'll have cemented an alliance with a extremely powerful priestess of Isha and thus another ally against the ruinous powers. Plus another if she can create her husband a new body.

@Xantalos if we research and finish the rock and if we talk to Isendral again, will we finish the rock before we talk to her? Or will we have to talk to her the turn afterwards to tell her about whatever the rock is?
 
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