Salt Sea rail traffic should please the NW Black Sheep. When we next get diplo actions we should encourage our neighbour to build their parts of the connection.
 
[X][War] Continue War - Royalists Pleased
[X][Bill] 1 PW - Veto (+1 temp Consciousness
[X][Rails] 1 PW - Yes please (Kielmyr Invest, gain +1 Railroads)
 
[X][War] Continue War - Royalists Pleased
[X][Bill] 2 PW - King's Bill (+1 temp SoL, Boost Science Research, +2 Sell Crown Corp Uses)
[X][Rails] 1 PW - Yes please (Kielmyr Invest, gain +1 Railroads)
 
[x][War] Continue War - Royalists Pleased

[x][Bill] 1 PW - Veto (+1 temp Consciousness
[][Bill] 2 PW - King's Bill (+1 temp SoL, Boost Science Research, +2 Sell Crown Corp Uses)

[x][Rails] 1 PW - Yes please (Kielmyr Invest, gain +1 Railroads)

I want to vote for veto, but I am unsure if we are safe from possible rebellion.

Edit:
Math seems to work out.
 
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+1 temp Consciousness from the Veto is to me another round of "hey, let's ignore Cons - SoL - Happiness interactions, nothing wrong can happen".
You can just check math yourself and then post about it, you know.

Let's see, currently we have:
Consciousness 2 (5)
Standard of Living 7 (3)
Happiness 5 (2)/10
Next we have regen:
Consciousness 2 (3)
Standard of Living 7 (5)
Happiness 5 (5)/10
Next we have gain from midturn and statuses
Consciousness 1 (4)
Standard of Living 7 (5)
Happiness 5 (4)/10

So, unless something drops us by 3 happiness, we're safe. It's still a waste, IMO, but will not hurt.
 
[x][War] Continue War - Royalists Pleased
[x][Bill] 1 PW - Veto (+1 temp Consciousness
[x][Rails] 1 PW - Yes please (Kielmyr Invest, gain +1 Railroads)
 
[X][War] Continue War - Royalists Pleased
[X][Bill] 2 PW - Naval Armaments Bill (-1 IC, +1 Temp IC, +1 Navy, +2 Temp SoL, +4 Sell Crown Corp Uses, Royalists Pleased)
[X][Rails] 1 PW - Yes please (Kielmyr Invest, gain +1 Railroads)
 
[X][War] Uti possidetis - Peace out with limited gains (+1 Temp Happiness)
[X][Bill] 2 PW - King's Bill (+1 temp SoL, Boost Science Research, +2 Sell Crown Corp Uses)
[X][Rails] 1 PW - Yes please (Kielmyr Invest, gain +1 Railroads)
 
[x][War] Continue War - Royalists Pleased
[x][Bill] 1 PW - Veto (+1 temp Consciousness
[x][Rails] 1 PW - Yes please (Kielmyr Invest, gain +1 Railroads)
 
Going with the naval bill puts us at 11/14 Crown Corporations. This means we only have three remaining.

Of our key industries of Steelmaking, Shipbuilding, Gunsmithing, Glassworking, Banking and Railways, which three do you guys want to get rid of? Because any way we swing it, it's going to be awful for our national and strategic interests of having these industries be stable and under our influence, protecting them from the repercussions of the coming financial crash.
 
[X][War] Continue War - Royalists Pleased
[X][Bill] 2 PW - Naval Armaments Bill (-1 IC, +1 Temp IC, +1 Navy, +2 Temp SoL, +4 Sell Crown Corp Uses, Royalists Pleased)
[X][Rails] 1 PW - Yes please (Kielmyr Invest, gain +1 Railroads)

then, I will continue to push for our naval dominance. I do wonder if we haven't been getting tech drips for fighting the Nohon for our shipbuilding and such.
 
[X][War] Continue War - Royalists Pleased
[X][Bill] 2 PW - King's Bill (+1 temp SoL, Boost Science Research, +2 Sell Crown Corp Uses)
[X][Rails] 1 PW - Yes please (Kielmyr Invest, gain +1 Railroads)
 
[X][War] Uti possidetis - Peace out with limited gains (+1 Temp Happiness)

[X][Bill] 2 PW - Naval Armaments Bill (-1 IC, +1 Temp IC, +1 Navy, +2 Temp SoL, +4 Sell Crown Corp Uses, Royalists Pleased)
[X][Bill] 2 PW - Proper Living Bill (-1 Temp IC, -1 SoL, Settle Kyberi Action, +3 Temp SoL, +1 Edu, +1 Innovation, +4 Sell Crown Corp Uses, Conservatives Pleased Twice[+2 Temp Happiness])
[X][Bill] 2 PW - Development Bill (-2 IC, +1 temp IC, +1 Railroads, +5 Temp SoL, Boost Science Research +7 Sell Crown Corp Uses, Liberals Pleased)
[X][Bill] 2 PW - King's Bill (+1 temp SoL, Boost Science Research, +2 Sell Crown Corp Uses)

[X][Rails] 1 PW - Yes please (Kielmyr Invest, gain +1 Railroads)
 
Hey, people who are strongly against veto: we can approval vote both King's Bill and Naval Armaments Bill; then we would have higher chance to beat veto.
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[X][War] Continue War - Royalists Pleased
[X][Bill] 1 PW - Veto (+1 temp Consciousness
[X][Rails] 1 PW - Yes please (Kielmyr Invest, gain +1 Railroads)

pls stop trying to sell our crown corps k thnx
 
[x][War] Continue War - Royalists Pleased

[x][Bill] 1 PW - Veto (+1 temp Consciousness
[][Bill] 2 PW - King's Bill (+1 temp SoL,Boost Science Research, +2 Sell Crown Corp Uses)

[x][Rails] 1 PW - Yes please (KielmyrInvest, gain +1 Railroads)
 
@Academia Nut How is our Navy doing versus the Nohon? Are they straining to keep the cordon up since we've been harrying them for 3 years now? Also I believe we've reached naval tech parity so do we now have an advantage due to our doctrine and staff?

Also in-case you missed my earlier question, what will be the changes you'll implement and when? We might need to know them if they'll be plan-changers.
 
[X][War] Continue War - Royalists Pleased
[X][Bill] 2 PW - Naval Armaments Bill (-1 IC, +1 Temp IC, +1 Navy, +2 Temp SoL, +4 Sell Crown Corp Uses, Royalists Pleased)


Meta-Colour Theory:
Infrared :Weather influence
Red :Earth influence
Orange : Plant influence
Yellow :Animal influence
Green :HEALING
Blue :Intelligence
Violet :Empathy/telepathy
Ultraviolet : Precognition

I wonder if any of these are correct. They are things that could have been (most likely not) magic in the first PoC.

Precognition is the most likely, I am fairly sure one of the colours will have that result. It would explain the Dragon General as someone very receptive to Meta-Ultraviolet
 
If we have precog as a tech in the future it will do interesting things for computers. Precognitive calculations of a specific right answer from a field of all posible computable answers is a quantum computer thing. You solve the answer as if you have the correct solution when you started your calculations.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by 8bitBob on May 8, 2018 at 11:26 AM, finished with 15271 posts and 32 votes.
 
[X][War] Continue War - Royalists Pleased
[X][Bill] 1 PW - Veto (+1 temp Consciousness
[X][Rails] 1 PW - Yes please (Kielmyr Invest, gain +1 Railroads)

Hopefully this doesn't blow up in our faces, this naval war has gone long enough that a Great admiral could have popped in a Civ game.
 
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