Theravis
A Knight for those Suffering
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Nations of Steel and Sabre
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Do our forces start as militia?
Theravis
A Knight for those Suffering
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Green. Assume they started last turn.
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What would twin engine heavy fighters like the BF-110 and the P-38 be classified as? Also, for multipurpose, it says to add them together and subtract one fro the total, given that air superiority seems to have a modifier of one, wouldn't that mean that anything matched with an air superiority role would only cost the other role? An Air Superiority+CAS plane would be 1.0+1.2-1.0 for 1.2 right?
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Theravis
A Knight for those Suffering
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Yes, it would be cost modifier 1.2, though each role is slightly less effective in a multirole.
As for classifications, they're largely mission-based.
Air Superiority are your energy/turn fighters, meant to destroy enemy fighters and clear the way for other aircraft.
Interceptors are generally fast and heavily armed, meant for taking down bombers.I'd classify the P-38 as a interceptor-superiority Fighter personally.
CAS are usually gun-armed and meant for strafing. Low altitude, close coordination with ground troops.
Medium/Dive Bombers are for bombing tactical targets: Ships, concentrations of units, staging points, runway cratering, fuel depots, etc.
Heavy Bombers are for strategic destruction: Roads, factories, and cities. When nothing but carpet bombing will do.
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Ah, cool, general designation like that solves some problems, though your comment about CAS usually being gun armed raises some questions for me, can you give a few examples of CAS aircraft? I am curious if you mean niche vehicles like the JU-87G. I also realized the first post has amphibious listed which I took to mean aircraft like the A6M2-N but would like some clarification like if that includes full carrier borne navalization or if there is no cost for carrier navaliztion of aairframes.
Theravis
A Knight for those Suffering
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- West Michigan
I'm not going that in depth
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- Boston
[Edit: Spelling & mod to tech list]
So, I decided to come up with more questions
Given you said that troops should (in most cases) start as Green, would we be able to
A) continue training right off the bat > trained next turn
B) deploy them as green, then later on bring them back for proper reeducation > trained
Magical Artifacts -- Should we generate this? Or are these more something that we'll come across/create down the line?
Magical spells - how many / how powerful?
How many people capable of using these magic spells do we have?
The magic system is one thing I'm not super clear on just yet.
Heroes I saw was tied into a country's magical rating, but... does that mean we can just create whatever kind of hero we want to, and we have a limit # of heroes equal to the MR? Does this take anything away from the country?
The post under "Turnpost: Format" - should we use this exactly as is, or is it alright if we make minor edits that we think make things a little easier for ourselves as long as all the material is in the same place?
For example I'm considering (before any research dedication):
Technology Levels:
Not *quite* what I'd like, but I at least find this easier to read than having the #s just at the end like
High Energy Physics 1890
Medicine 1890
Rocketry and Aeronautics 1890
I find I get the numbers lost in the random indent amounts...
So, I decided to come up with more questions
Given you said that troops should (in most cases) start as Green, would we be able to
A) continue training right off the bat > trained next turn
B) deploy them as green, then later on bring them back for proper reeducation > trained
Magical Artifacts -- Should we generate this? Or are these more something that we'll come across/create down the line?
Magical spells - how many / how powerful?
How many people capable of using these magic spells do we have?
The magic system is one thing I'm not super clear on just yet.
Heroes I saw was tied into a country's magical rating, but... does that mean we can just create whatever kind of hero we want to, and we have a limit # of heroes equal to the MR? Does this take anything away from the country?
The post under "Turnpost: Format" - should we use this exactly as is, or is it alright if we make minor edits that we think make things a little easier for ourselves as long as all the material is in the same place?
For example I'm considering (before any research dedication):
Technology Levels:
CivTech:
MilTech
Biology:
1890 +1.5 > 1891.5
Electronics: 1890 +1.5 > 1891.5
Organic Chemistry: 1890 +1.5 > 1891.5
Inorganic Chemistry: 1890 +1.5 > 1891.5
Industry: 1890 +1.5 > 1891.5
High Energy Physics: 1890 +1.5 > 1891.5
Medicine: 1890 +1.5 > 1891.5
Rocketry and Aeronautics: 1890 +1.5 > 1891.5
Infantry:
1890 [stagnant]
Armor: 1890 [stagnant]
Airpower: 1890 [stagnant]
Naval: 1890 [stagnant]
Not *quite* what I'd like, but I at least find this easier to read than having the #s just at the end like
High Energy Physics 1890
Medicine 1890
Rocketry and Aeronautics 1890
I find I get the numbers lost in the random indent amounts...
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Well it is just I am not sure of what constitutes a CAS aircraft in terms of historic airframes given the definition you used and if there was a cost multiplier for carrier aircraft.
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[Edit: remove redundancy: ASM Missile >_> ]
I believe he basically just means any aircraft capable of providing Close Air Support, whether that means helicopters or a plane designed for strafing runs with machine guns, or a short-range / precision ASM launching craft.
I believe he basically just means any aircraft capable of providing Close Air Support, whether that means helicopters or a plane designed for strafing runs with machine guns, or a short-range / precision ASM launching craft.
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He seemed to put dive bombers and tactical bombers I had considered CAS in this general time frame in the medium bomber category and mentioned CAS are usually gun armed so just want to know what sort of airplanes are in CAS with some sort of examples.
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- Wörms, the half continent
Os treisiodd y gelyn fy ngwlad tan ei droed,
Mae hen iaith y Cymry mor fyw ag erioed,
Ni luddiwyd yr awen gan erchyll law brad,
Na thelyn berseiniol fy ngwlad.
I'm here. I'm Welsh. And I'm hoping the Econ system works.
Mae hen iaith y Cymry mor fyw ag erioed,
Ni luddiwyd yr awen gan erchyll law brad,
Na thelyn berseiniol fy ngwlad.
I'm here. I'm Welsh. And I'm hoping the Econ system works.
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[Edit: Not sure how but I wrote Junkers as Junks. Fixed]
[Edit 2.0: Have a good night everyone. I stayed up way too late =) ]
@Conundrum - Obviously I don't know exactly what's in his head, but based on the description I would suggest that the German Junkers J.I and the British Sopwith Salamander would be good examples of what he means by CAS Aircraft? Trench-fighters.
Examples come from a combination of quick research, my understanding of what he meant, and a bit of a read up on Trench Fighters / Trench Strafing.
[Edit 2.0: Have a good night everyone. I stayed up way too late =) ]
@Conundrum - Obviously I don't know exactly what's in his head, but based on the description I would suggest that the German Junkers J.I and the British Sopwith Salamander would be good examples of what he means by CAS Aircraft? Trench-fighters.
Examples come from a combination of quick research, my understanding of what he meant, and a bit of a read up on Trench Fighters / Trench Strafing.
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The Salamander sure but that was a rather short lived design that was easily and quickly superseded by bomb focused aircraft after it showed poor performance. The J.I was not really a trench strafer like the Salamander and more of an observation aircraft with a machinegun for self-defense. CAS is usually meant to refer to direct intervention by the aircraft so I do not feel like an observation plane fits.
edit: The AEG J.I would I feel would be a better example, still built as an observation plane but had machineguns mounted for strafing.
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- Setubal
So who wants to have a Princess Marry Teodosio I before the game starts?
Azecreth
Giant Monster All Out Attack
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Just don't make me come over there Wales. Cause I will if I have to
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- Wörms, the half continent
I forget, what do you think of Protestants?
Azecreth
Giant Monster All Out Attack
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Not a fan. Louis XIV removed the Hugeunots from France, I'm just not sure how much the downtime ideals of religious freedom have Integrated into French society
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Sucks for you then. You're gonna have protestant grandbabbies.
Also, you aren't getting taxes. Political turmoil, I'm afraid. It happens. The Irish sea is also very treacherous. And we're poor. Bad harvest. Plus we need the money for our military. And there are still supporters for Cromwrell we need to find.
Azecreth
Giant Monster All Out Attack
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It's weird. I can see those words, but for some reason all I can understand in them is 'Dear France, I have no intention of ever being cooperative with you. Please punch me in the face before I inevitably stab you in the back during your next major war."
No idea where I'm getting that from though
Dovahsith
Lost on the road of life
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- Manchester
Thats a very nice treasure fleet you have there.
Shame if something were to happen to it.
Also, have you considered purchasing 1681 Pirate Insurance?
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[Edit: Minor addition]
If by "Pirate Insurance" you mean "Trade Agreements", I'm sure my people would be more than happy to provide your navy with repair docks for modest fees taken from the stocks on board your reasonably appropriated vessels of other nations, @Dovahsith.
After all, if (for example) French vessels were to be repaired, I'm sure that if France ever decided they wanted those ships back, having them in good condition would be for the best, would it not?
If by "Pirate Insurance" you mean "Trade Agreements", I'm sure my people would be more than happy to provide your navy with repair docks for modest fees taken from the stocks on board your reasonably appropriated vessels of other nations, @Dovahsith.
After all, if (for example) French vessels were to be repaired, I'm sure that if France ever decided they wanted those ships back, having them in good condition would be for the best, would it not?
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Never seen that
Generally fine guys, were set up after a crusade, they should allow free and open access to the holy land. Wish they were Christian.
EDIT: Fixed it, something is badly wrong with my keyboard.
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Interesting.