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I was actually kind of curious how the USE elections were likely to shake out. I got the sense half of game was planning on interfering. :p
 
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    • Ironanvil1 said:
    I'd like Orbits of Spells and Spaceships, where humanity did a desperate deal with Citallon to spread them out across a magi-terraformed Solar System in order to escape Irem engulfing Earth.
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    I've been thinking about this premise for a bit, and I think I have a general scenario mapped out if there is wide interest for something like this. I definitely don't have time to mod now though (and I'm honestly not totally sure I want to), so it'll have to wait or be run some other person or team of people:

    Premise: Starting from a while bit after the game, a bunch of world wars Tear the world apart. Several people make deals with Citallion, Irem emerges after decades in incubation, magical catastrophes and nuke exchanges get thrown around, and the world is reduced to a barely habitable hellscape. Someone made a deal with Citallion that ended with Mars, Venus, Titan, and Ganymede being various degrees of terraformed and portals to a bunch of places in the solar system opening across the world. Humanity flees to the stars—some by magic, some with the aid of Citallion, and some with technology, which hit near-future levels by the end of the game in a select group of advanced nations. It is now somewhere between 50 and 100 years after humanity has been exiled from her homeworld, and her tired children struggle for control of the scraps of the solar system that remain. And thus, the saga begins of a new age, one of...

    Orbits of Star and Sorrow

    System:     The system should broadly resemble NSS's, except with simplified army mechanics and a new tech system. Magic and tech are gone—at this point, all nations have developed down wildly divergent technological paths, and even technological nations are operating with fantastical devices not spoken of in the Grantville texts. Instead every nation just has an Intellectual Development level reflecting the strength of its innovative and academic abilities—whether these be in Hermetic magic, dieselpunk, Sufi mysticism, or "conventional" sci-fi technology. Different paths have different mechanical strengths and weaknesses, but two countries with the same Development level will have roughly the same overall capabilities.

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    Mars:     The "new home of humanity", Mars is the most perfectly terraformed of all the planets of the solar system and the most populous. Mars is home to the nations of:
    The United States of Mars: Descendants of the USE, the United States of Mars is considered the hegemon of the planet, although not without heavy opposition. Its territory on the planet Mars is actually relatively minimal—consisting of only the area around the Hellas Sea and the fertile plains connecting it to the Martian Coast—but the USM also controls most of the orbitals near-Mars orbit, the massive habitat inside the moon of Phobos, and the settlement colonies in the Martian L2 Lagrange points. It's lost its overwhelming technological advantage at this point—both the Dutch Lunar Directorate and the Commonwealth are as or even slightly more advanced—but it still possesses one of the system's largest economies and an incredible amount of soft power on Mars (where most states are USM allies or satellites) and beyond.
    The Huoxing Republic: China was extremely unstable when the Earth tore apart (the Shun government, always rickety, collapsed during the fall), and thus Chinese refugees fleeing from Earth did so in a chaotic fashion, scattering across the system. One of the largest concentrations of Chinese refugees can be found in the Huoxing Republic, an ally of the USM situated on the Aeolian Coast. The republic is a USM ally (the USM was the driving force supporting the creation of a Chinese republic in the first place) cobbled from many different cultural regions, and has become increasingly unstable. The Japanese on Elysium are angling to exploit internal divisions to pull Huoxing into its own sphere as a puppet, while nationalist forces increasingly push for unification with the Lunar Tian Dynasty
    Japan: Japan controls the island of Elysium (and a number of orbital settlements) and is, along with Mexico and Persia, one of the leaders of the "United Front", an organization defined by opposing the USM hegemony over Mars. At the present, it primarily concerns itself with exploiting the divisions in Huoxing to pull the nation into its own sphere. Operates the Elysium Space Elevator.
    Mexico: Controlling a large swath of arid southern Mars centered on the fertile Argyle Sea basin, Mexico remains under the control of Quetzalcoatl, and continues to oppose the USM's presumption of hegemony over Mars and its attendant insistence on things like democracy and not being ruled by immortal snake Jesus.
    The Inca Republic: A descendant of the USSA in the Mariner Valley, the Quecha are friendly with both the USM and the Mexicans, allowing then to serve as a sort of neutral mediator between the USM and Unitsd Front. Only time will tell if it will eventually be drawn into one sphere or another or if it will be able to successfully chart a balanced course and retain its soft diplomatic influence.
    Bharati Tharsis: The Three Indias alliance was theoretically supposed to colonize Tharsis together, a large region being allocated to then because of India's massive population. However, conflicts between the three nations (and within the large and unwieldy Mughal Empire whose colonization effort was undermined by a questionable decision by the Mughal Empire to include staunch opponents of the government in its colonization efforts) caused the collapse of the Bharati Tharsis Union, which has split into an unstable Mughal Empire torn between reactionaries (Hyderabadis and Nizams who want a return to a proper Islamic monarchy) and radicals (who want democracy and who actually believe in and want to impose Mughal syncretic pantheism instead of just making a few paeans to it) and allied with the USM and an alliance of the Rakasha, Rapjuts, and Maratha backed by the United Front. Also of note is the Olympus Space Elevator, an enclave of the USM in the Tharsis region.
    Araby: Araby is the home of a number of smaller states that wren't really strong enough to claim large portions of territory on their own, and thus colonized under the USM umbrella. The Republic of New Tuscany (Italians), Kingdom of Joseon, Hispanic Union (Guyanese, Colombians, and Central Americans), Kingdom of Dahomey, and Swedish Republic are all here. Because Araby is largely desert with fertile areas largely hugging the coast, most of these states are small, rather poor, and have sparsely populated inlands.
    The Hesperian Khanate: The Hesperian steppe was colonized by Manchu, Mongolian, and Central Asian steppe people fleeing Earth along with the Chinese. Although technically still part of Huoxing, with the Khan being a vassal of the Huoxing government, Hesperia has been de facto independent for the last decade or so and is looking to ally with Japan to make that de jure as well.
    New Canaan: New Canaan is situated in the hot but largely infertile Xanthe Valley, and is an insular Mexican ally. Given that slavery isn't really a thing in Mars, and Canaan's ancient enemy the Commonwealth is on Saturn of all places, the nation is still struggling to figure out exactly what it wants to do with itself.
    Israel: Beit Tsiya has colonized Noachia, a territory consisting of a few fertile oases around old impact craters separated by miles upon miles of extremely harsh desert--a desert which, as it turns out, is actually incredibly rich in minerals underneath the surface. As such, Israel consists of dense settlements hugging fertile areas, with a countryside that is exploited largely through golem labor with a few human overseers.

    Mars Orbit:

    The Celestial Realm of Iran: The third member of the United Front, Persia, controls a dense network of orbital settlements at Mars' L2 Lagrange Point, which seems like a relatively small slice of territory for a nation that on earth was the head of the United Front and a borderline great power before the Fall. However, the L2 settlements represent only a fraction of the Iranian Star Empire--the Iranians have leveraged their superior experience with aerial shipbuilding and djinn-ships to build a commercial, shipping, and colonial empire that stretches across the Solar System, with a presence across the asteroid belt and into the outer gas giants, and into a multitude of other dimensions, where a good portion of Iran's population now lives.

    Earth Orbit: Earth itself is ruined, but a number of nations still call the areas that orbit around our home planet home. These include:
    The Lunar Directorate: The Dutch were the first to reach space, and thus more or less already had control of the moon and low earth orbit by the time Earth broke and everyone else fled. Most of this space presence was operated by the Tychodian Society, and in the aftermath of the fall the Society has asserted full control over the Dutch state, transforming it into a technocratic science dictatorship dedicated to the Progress and Reason (note: amount of progress and reason may vary). The Directorate controls extensive orbital settlements in the L1 and L2 Lagrange points, which are wealthy, well-developed, and mostly populated by Dutch, and controls through varying degrees of arrangements most settlements on the Lunar surface, which are populated mostly by a mishmash of poor post-fall refugees exploited for cheap labor--the largest group of these refugees, almost forming a majority on the surface, are Chinese, with the rest being Malays, Africans, and Europeans. With its dedication to scientific advancement, the Directorate is the one of the most developed and technologically advanced nations in the world.
    The Tian Dynasty: Located on the dark side of the moon, poor in the Helium-3 that most of the Directorate's surface settlements are meant to mine, the Tian Dynasty was formed out a group of overwhelmingly Chinese settlements that revolted against Directorate control about 25 years ago. While they have managed to make peace with the Directorate now (the Lunars didn't particularly care about the resource-poor dark side and were afraid that the rebellion might be able to seize the Lunar Konzern due to their unprepardness), asserting their independence under the Xinfeng Emperor, the Tian's ambitions do not stop at the dark side of the moon--they wish to seize the entire planet, rightfully the land of the Chinese, and from there expand their reach to Huoxing and Yue Venus and the Chinese populations in the Belt.
    The Spanish Empire: The Spanish Empire is located in a large number of settlements at Earth's L3 and L4 Lagrange Points--it wasn't able to carve out a large slice of either Mars or Venus, and is extremely resentful about this. Militaristic and imperial sentiment is strong in Spain, which has come to believe that it is high time the nation use the great navy it has built up and secure for itself space to live and colonize and a place in the sun.
    L5: The L5 Lagrange point contains an enclave of the United States of Mars in Earth orbit which is often considered a hotbed of neo-Richterists.

    Venus: Significantly larger than Mars, with Earthlike gravity and less desert, Venus at first seems like it would be a paradise for humanity... if not for the heat.The coldest areas on Venus are about Mediterranean in climate, comparable to southern France--at the hottest parts of the equator, temperatures can reach 75 degrees Celsius, unlivable for human beings. As a result, the tropical regions of Venus are incredibly underpopulated. Oh, and the radiation. The removal of Venus' thick atmosphere also allows solar wind to buffer the planet constantly, and while Citallion's terraformation has increased the strength of the planet's magnetosphere, it's still weaker than Earth's. Because of this, while Venus is livable, rates of cancer and what not are extremely high, and life expectancy is low for all but those nations with a way around that. Venus is home to:

    The Kingdom of France: Kingdom of France controls most of the northern continent of Venus and near-Venusian orbit. An "alchemical despotism", the French government is dominated by nobles who maintain power through near-monopolized access to alchemy thanks to the high cost of alchemical tools and ingredients and the extensive infrastructure and education needed to use them. While still an absolute monarchy under the Bourbon dynasty, France's second estate has been able to enrich itself massively by selling the alchemical medicines like Pancea that the masses need to survive, amplifying the already excessive wealth disparity of the Ancien Regime even further. This has naturally created a great deal of unrest and sympathy for various radical anti-government organizations bubbling underneath the surface. Despite this, however, France is one of the solar system's great powers, with it's largest economy and one of its largest populations, and is more or less the hegemon of Venus, with most other Venusian nations being its satellites one way or another.
    The Papal State: Controlling a block of territory in the Venusian north pole surrounded by France, the Papal State is one of four remnant Papacies (the other three reside in Spain, in the Universal Monarchy, and in the Italian Republic) and, like the rest, is a puppet of its patron--in this case, obviously France. The Papal State has a reputation as a nation of healers, with the influence of organizations like the Jesuits extremely visible--it boasts one of the strongest medical establishments in the solar system and a robust social welfare policy, all meant to combat the Venusian radiation problem. None the less, these are still only partial fixes at best, and the Papacy is still ultimately reliant on the importation of French alchemical cures for its continued health.
    Ireland: The Irish also settled in the north pole of Venus and are also more or less a French satellite and, given their small size, largely content in this position (the crazed rants of a few older colonists who insist Ireland had a glorious moon colony once long ago notwithstanding).
    The Kingdom of Portugal: The Kingdom of Portugal controls some territory in the Venusian north pole (mostly for agricultural reasons), but the bulk of the nation's population is located in orbital settlements at the Venusian L2 Lagrange Point, affording it a degree of independence from France (although the two nations are still cordial)
    Morocco: Controlling the island of Beta just north of the unlivable Equatorial band of Venus, Morocco's colonization efforts were assisted by France, and as a result the nation is a staunch French allied. Coastal Themis is fertile, but the island's inland is largely arid and populated mostly by Toureg, many of whom have settled in Morocco as well. Like the Papacy, Morocco is ultimately dependent on French alchemical medicine for its continued settlement of Venus, keeping it in the French economic sphere, but the government would like nothing more than to find a way out of this subordination...
    The Kingdom of Kongo: Situated on the jungle island of Themis south of Venus' equatorial band, Kongo is also more or less firmly in the French economic sphere, although it hopes that the increasing development of native mystical medicine, which has shown promise of supplanting France's alchemical products as cures for the Venusian ailments, will allow it to break free.
    The Yue Dynasty: The mountains of the central Venusian continent of Aphrodite are just cool enough to be livable, and an environment of tropical lowlands and forested highlands felt just like home for the Southeast Asian Yue Dynasty. Most of the population of the nation is concentrated in the highlands, while the lowlands are home to vast tracts of farmland worked by laborers operating from controlled, often domed settlements made livable with a combination of technology and Southeast Asian water magic. The Yue Dynasty has its own alchemical medical industry derived from Taoist traditions which, while generally thought of as less developed than France's, leaves it mostly economically independent. While the government is still largely cordial with France, it hopes to leverage this to assert itself as an independent power and draw other nations into its own sphere. However, the Yue are a fundamentally divided nation--the actually livable highlands are populated mostly by a privileged Cantonese population, while the miserably hot lowlands are mostly Cambodians and Vietnamese who are underprivileged in the Yue system and unhappy about it. The Cantonese have maintained control so far by playing the two (who also hate each other) against each other, but who knows how long this will last...
    Central Aphrodite: Settlements in the mountainous areas of Central Aphrodite were established by the Malmuk Dynasty, but the Malmuk government, already weak, was ill-prepared to deal with being torn between a mass medical crisis and being placed under French economic domination. The Egyptian settlement in Central Aphrodite collapsed, splitting into an Ethiopian nation in the Artemis highland/chasm system in south-central Aphrodite (now a French ally) and an Arab nation in the Thetis Mountains that has been annexed by the Otaared Caliphate and now serves as their outpost on Venus, from which they hope to extend their influence into Morocco. Thetis is now a center of Otaared transhumanists, who have used their expertise at cybernetics to alleviate the worst of the Venusian ailments.
    The African Protectorates: France offered much of the territory of eastern Aphrodite to settlement by African nations, primarily the Ashanti and Malians, out of the "generosity" of the French King. This was a damn dirty lie, as most of them discovered when they arrived in a territory so hot as to be unlivable. The French African Protectorates are a poor, miserable place settled mostly by people in overcrowded, poorly climate-conditioned domed cities and subterranean compounds that France exploits for cheap labor in the scorching hot jungles outside. This has naturally made them incredibly restive, and they would like nothing more than to cast off the French yoke.
    Russia: Situated on the southern polar continent of Venus, Russia is an enigmatic and isolationist nation, not an ally of France and in fact possessing little contact with the outside world at all. Bizarrely enough, there is actual winter in Russia, extremely unusual in a nation where climates are warm at best and scorching at worst, and the whole nation seems to radiate with an great amount of traditional magic. Russia is a reactionary country, with a poor underclass of serfs (that don't actually get any cures to the Venusian ailments, and thus tend to die in middle age) ruled over by boyars and an Orthodox church that all tap deeply into Russian and Eastern Orthodox mysticism.
    The Star Kingdom of Avalon: The descendant of Charles Bourbon's England is located at Venus' L1 Lagrange Point, chosen to allow Avalon to possess a degree of independence from France other nations couldn't really possess.

    Mercury: Obviously impossible to terraform, Mercury is still a rocky planet characterized by extreme temperatures, whose only settlements consist of subterranean facilities insulated from extreme weather. It plans host to only:
    The Otaared Caliphate: Mercury was previously more or less ignored by most major galactic powers, and was lightly settled by the Iranians as a location for semi-secret research facilities and solar energy collection--not a hugely populous, but a planet where many top scientists migrated to. The population of this station, however, disapproved of the increasing interaction between Iran and mythological dimensions populated by beings from religions other than Islam, viewing acknowledgement of their legitimate existence as a sort of shirk, and eventually broke off from Persia and declared itself an independent nation. Much of the population of Mercury was drawn from refugees from the rest of the Islamic world rather than from Iranians, leaving the planet that was majority Sunni and religiously hardline--it soon declared itself a caliphate, although it should be noted that Mercury is not a hereditary monarchy but rather a elected presidential dictatorship with the Caliph as head of state. Mercury is currently divided between conventional religious hardliners who disdain mysticism and simply wish to establish a prosperous and developed Islamic nation on Mercury and a growing contingent of cybernetic transhumanists inspired to adapt to space's harsh conditions.

    The Asteroid Belt: The asteroid belt is home to a great number of settlements drawn to the mineral wealth of the region, most of which are mining colonies of larger nations or small semi-independent or corporate ones that are basically pointless to describe. The great spacefaring powers--Mars, France, Austria, the Lunar Directorate, the United Front, and the Commonwealth--and intermediate powers compete for influence over the Belt, each hoping to secure the bulk of its mineral wealth for itself. Below are some of the more important ones:

    The Solar Belt Consortium: Descendants primarily of the VOC, with corporate interests from a number of other countries thrown in, the SBC owns a great deal of the asteroid belt's most minerally wealthy planetoids, where it acts as a corporate state. SBC's headquarters is actually not in the Belt but at 433 Eros (the almost comic suitability of that locale is not lost on them)--its facility on Ceres serves as the center of its Belt operations, and Ceres' inland water supplies allow them to exert considerable economic influence throughout the thirsty Belt. Most of the population in SBC stations are poor laborers, de facto or outright slaves and indentured servants (many unwillingly appropriated from Indonesia or remnants of Oceana's slave population).
    New Munster: The closest thing to a Richterist state that currently exists, New Munster controls 2 Pallas and is run by radically egalitarian Anabaptists currently in revolt against the SMC due to generally shitty treatment by their corporate overlords.
    The Covenanting State: Unwilling to migrate to Bourbon Venus, the Scottish Covenanters set up their own state on a swath of the asteroid belt that contains the motherlode protoplanet of 16 Psyche and a number of other mineral-rich asteroids, placing them straight in the crosshairs of just about every other nation in the system. This has made the Covenanters (even more) militaristic and fanatical, and it would totally drop a space colony on Sydney if it could. The Convenanters are loose allies of the Commonwealth on Saturn, which hungers for its iron and other minerals.

    Jupiter: The King of Planets, most of the region around Jupiter is not fit for habitation due to crushing gravity and intense radiation. Of course, that doesn't stop everybody...
    The Universal Monarchy: The continuation of Maria Anna's Austrian Empire in space, the Universal Monarchy controls almost all of Jovian orbit and exerts loose control over the Jovian Trojans. Obsessed with the idea that flesh is weak even before the Fall, Austria's evacuation to Jupiter only continued to promote its continuing cybernization, with almost all Austrians now at least in part metal. The Universal Monarchy is a totalitarian, militaristic state under the continued rule of Empress Maria Anna (who has been preserved in a massive cybernetic system, although the degree to which she is still conscious is sometimes questionable) which continues to hold to her ambitions of world conquest and control. The great mineral wealth of Jupiter provides Austria with the fuel it needs to feed its war machines, and her armies and fleets grow stronger by the day...
    The Empire of Rum: Situated on the terraformed but mostly aquatic moon of Ganymede, which Empress Maria Anna graciously granted to the Romans still bounded by the flesh, the Empire of Rum is, depending on who you ask, a loose Austrian vassal or a close Austrian ally.
    The Kalmar Union: The moon of Europa and its icy seas represents the one outpost of the Kalmar Union in our space. Most of the nation is located in a number of eldritch other dimensions which the rest of the world is unable to access--as such, Europa is the locale through which the Scandinavians do business with the rest of the world. Kalmar currently has a tense but so far cooperative relationship with the Austrians, allowing them to remain on the moon in exchange for a cut of the minerals found beneath the sea.

    Saturn: Lacking Jupiter's crushing gravity and radiation, Saturn serves as the system's current primary source of Helium 3, which most technological powers use as fuel, although the price of extracting the gas from still quite massive Saturn may mean Uranus may eclipse it as a source in the future.
    The Commonwealth: The Commonwealth controls Titan and Saturnian orbit, hoping to construct a Protestant utopia from which they can build strength, dominate the resources of the Belt and the Outer Planets, and one day, when the worst of the abominations on Earth have passed, retake the homeland. To outsiders, the Oceana presents Titan as a paradise, with breathable air, consistently comfortable temperatures, and universally fertile soil. The reality is less glamorous--Titan is indeed extremely fertile (although only for crops genetically engineered to suite the Titanian climate), and its planetary temperatures vary only between roughly 30 to 50 degrees Farenheit, but it's a cold and perpetually heavily clouded and dark planet often buffeted by ammonia-laced storms, creating an atmosphere that many have commented suit the Commonwealth's cultural attitude almost perfectly. Regardless, the Commonwealth has managed to establish a highly developed and fairly prosperous nation on the moon--their technological development is comparable only to the Lunars and to a lesser extent the Martians, and their access to the helium-3 of Saturn and the resources of the Saturnian moons and the resource of the outer rim give them an economic base to be envied.

    The Outer Planets: The outer planets are not really settled, with the only humans past Saturn living on a few Helium-3 mining outposts on Uranus operated by Iran, the Commonwealth, the Martians, and the Austrians. Past that, there are only isolated settlements, usually populated by extreme religious movements or other kooks.
     
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    • ChineseDrone said:
    However, conflicts between the three nations (and within the large and unwieldy Mughal Empire whise colonization effort was undermined by a questionable decision if the Mughal Empire to include opponents of the government in its colonization efforts) caused the collapse of the Bharati Tharsis Union, which has split into an unstable Mughal Empire torn between reactionaries (Hyderabadis and Nizams who want a return to a proper Islamic monarchy) and radicals (who want democracy and who actually believe in and want to impose Mughal syncretic pantheism instead of just making a few paeans to it) and allied with the USM and an alliance of the Rakasha, Rapjuts, and Maratha backed by the United Front. Also of note is the Olympus Space Elevator, an enclave of the USM in the Tharsis region.
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    I spent the entire game trying to unite my goddamn empire, and it still all falls apart!
    FFFFFFUUUUUU-

    Oh well, I'll just have to do a few Purges. Or a lot. Who the fuck knows.
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    The Universal Monarchy: The continuation of Maria Anna's Austrian Empire in space, the Universal Monarchy controls almost all of Jovian orbit and exerts loose control over the Jovian Trojans. Obsessed with the idea that flesh is weak even before the Fall, Austria's evacuation to Jupiter only continued to promote its continuing cybernization, with almost all Austrians now at least in part metal. The Universal Monarchy is a totalitarian, militaristic state under the continued rule of Empress Maria Anna (who has been preserved in a massive cybernetic system, although the degree to which she is still conscious is sometimes questionable) which continues to hold to her ambitions of world conquest and control. The great mineral wealth of Jupiter provides Austria with the fuel it needs to feed its war machines, and her armies and fleets grow stronger by the day...
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    They 40k não
     
    Dekutulla said:
    please can we wait for sg2 to be done first tho

    i can't handle two gsrps of this magnitude at once
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    Oh yeah, we should definitely wait until after SG is finished. There's too much of an overlap in premises

    THatWhichWillBe said:
    I spent the entire game trying to unite my goddamn empire, and it still all falls apart!
    FFFFFFUUUUUU-

    Oh well, I'll just have to do a few Purges. Or a lot. Who the fuck knows.
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    Should've had a government that would consistently shoot protestors :V
     
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    ChineseDrone said:
    Unwilling to migrate to Bourbon Venus, the Scottish Covenanters set up their own state on a swath of the asteroid belt that contains the motherlode protoplanet of 16 Psyche and a number of other mineral-rich asteroids, placing them straight in the crosshairs of just about every other nation in the system. This has made the Covenanters (even more) militaristic and fanatical, and it would totally drop a space colony on Sydney if it could. The Convenanters are loose allies of the Commonwealth on Saturn, which hungers for its iron and other minerals.
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    Fucking protestant fanatics on asteroids with maybe super-mechs yes please
     
    Bismarck said:
    Fucking protestant fanatics on asteroids with maybe super-mechs yes please
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    you have many supermechs, including one supermech painted red which makes it THREE TIMES FASTER that's piloted by an extremely loyal and reliable pilot. yes he has no greviance with the church of scotland and will not kill the presbyters with a bazooka to the head and most certainly does not currently have a 17 year old sister serving in the martian navy
     
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    The Kalmar Union: The dwarf planet of Ceres and its inland sea, which has been sealed by a combination of magic and Nagalfarian biotechnology and transformed into a major settlement, represents the one outpost of the Kalmar Union in our space. Most of the nation is located in a number of eldritch other dimensions which the rest of the world is unable to access--as such, Ceres is the locale through which the Scandinavians do business with the rest of the world. Ceres' water supplies are extremely valuable in the rest of the water-starved belt, and the Scandinavians make a killing off of it.
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    ChineseDrone said:
    you have many supermechs, including one supermech painted red which makes it THREE TIMES FASTER that's piloted by an extremely loyal and reliable pilot. yes he has no greviance with the church of scotland and will not kill the presbyter with a bazooka to the head
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    one supermech painted red which makes it THREE TIMES FASTER
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    even better but im not sure about the pilot having to clarify that he is loyal and doesn't have grievances makes it seem a little like he has grievances but its probably me just reading into things too much or not getting a reference and looking dumb oh look all italics that was actually not on purpose but we will leave it that way no punctuation either have fun reading this mess
     
    ChineseDrone said:
    Should've had a government that will consistently shoot protestors :V
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    I call bias! You are known Cromwell Sympathizer and it's well known Cromwells have a grudge against the poor Mughals because they recognized New Canaan as a state first!

    *shakes fist angrily*

    But more seriously, I don't think the Mughal Emperors would be that dumb/naive to just let all their political problems come along with them for the ride.
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    The Flesh is Weak bois
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    Shut your face, Brain-Ghost Ferrus! You are not Friend.
     
    THatWhichWillBe said:
    I call bias! You are known Cromwell Sympathizer and it's well known Cromwells have a grudge against the poor Mughals because they recognized New Canaan as a state first!

    *shakes fist angrily*

    But more seriously, I don't think the Mughal Emperors would be that dumb/naive to just let all their political problems come along with them for the ride.
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    You spent quite a while trying to turn the Mughals into a democracy. Since they were in a democratic system, your enemies... insisted :V
     
    ChineseDrone said:
    You spent quite a while trying to turn the Mughals into a democracy. Since they were in a democratic system, your enemies... insisted :V
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    Fair enough, I guess.

    Though that makes me wonder why the civil war didn't happen before they left for Mars. And why, since the Maratha really wanted an independent state of their own, they didn't just go to some other planet.
     
    THatWhichWillBe said:
    Shut your face, Brain-Ghost Ferrus! You are not Friend.
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    The Carrion Lady of the Solar System sits alone on Her throne of false steel and dead dreams, for whom blood is spilt and souls are sacrificed everyday. Millions march across the solar system in the name of their dead God. For even now Her rotting corpse is kept alive by the monstrous technologies and ancient magics of the Universal Monarchy, even in Death may their Empress never truly die. Even now her ancient wounds slowly healing.
     
    Dekutulla said:
    The facts are lost to the mists of time...

    Stop worrying about it :V
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    You're right. I'll resolve my pent-up frustration by purging these goddamn Nizams, Rajputs, and Maratha off the face of Mars.

    I've been too tolerant of their factional bullshit for far too long.
    Crilltic said:
    The Carrion Lady of the Solar System sits alone on Her throne of false steel and dead dreams, for whom blood is spilt and souls are sacrificed everyday. Millions march across the solar system in the name of their dead God. For even now Her rotting corpse is kept alive by the monstrous technologies and ancient magics of the Universal Monarchy, even in Death may their Empress never truly die. Even now her ancient wounds slowly healing.
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    You stole that Corpse-Emperor shtick from Al'reb Almutawadi, young lady. What, is your Empress on that throne because her sister decided to betray her or something?

    .... actually, it's probably a yes, because that's some cool narrative stuff.
     
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