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THatWhichWillBe said:
...... This sounds awfully vague.

Do you mean 6 MR gained as in 'You did two Quests that gave you +3 MR each, now you get a hero', or 'You did a quest that gave you +3 MR, pushing you from 3 to 6 MR, now you get a hero'? Because I got Rajavan by the latter Method..
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"Per 6 MR gained in play" ie, you got 6 additional MR while in ongoing play, above your starting MR. I've emphasised this in the rules now.
 
Crilltic said:
Read my edit it's at set milestones.
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Crilltic said:
Also if you did not start with a hero when you joined you get one at MR6, then 12, then 18 and so on.
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Oh. Well, that's a relief.

So, to recap, if you did not start with a Hero, you get heroes at MR6, MR12, MR18, etc.
And, whether or not you started with a Hero, you get another hero every time you gain a total of 6 MR from quests.
Is that right? I'm just making sure that it's not:
Alternate Intrepretation said:
If you did not start with a Hero, you get heroes at MR6, MR12, MR18, etc.
BUT, if you did start with a hero, you get another hero every time you gain a total of 6 MR from quests. People who did not start with a hero do not benefit from this.
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Or anything along those lines.
 
Ironanvil1 said:
You would have MR/4=1 at start, then your next one would come at Starting MR + 6 = 11.
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Crilltic said:
You'll get another hero at MR11 if you started at MR5
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It appears that this:
If you did not start with a Hero, you gain a hero when you reach MR6, MR12, MR18, etc.
BUT, if you did start with a hero, you get another hero every time you gain a total of 6 MR from quests. People who did not start with a hero do not benefit from this.
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Is the best wording of the rules for Non-Loot Roll Hero Gain ATM then?
Edit: D'oh, the OP already has the clarified rules for this in it.
 
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Havocfett said:
The Deccan Legion is available for hire [10,000 Ex-Swedish Colonial Infantry. 25 Artillery Batteries, 1920 Tech, SAMs. Will not work for Kalmar or Persia. 250-750 MP Base Cost]
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Hm, don't mind if I do....
Havocfett said:
[Rakshasha Mercenaries]
Will not work for Portuguese or Mughals.
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But I didn't even fight the Rakshasha! Why are they mad at me?
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Havocfett said:
And then the first poll came out. Johann Voss had a twenty point lead over the next closest candidate.

They were too late.
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OH NO! ITS TOO MUCH DEMOCRACY! PEOPLE WHO AREN'T FROM EUROPE ARE VOTING!
ALL IS LOST!

:p
 
Forget hiring, I want to black bag and enhanced interrogation members of the Deccan Legion until they reveal to me WHERE IS THE FABLED SPIDER FILLED BUNKER OF INFINITE SURFACE TO AIR MISSILES?
 
Wade Garrett said:
Forget hiring, I want to black bag and enhanced interrogation members of the Deccan Legion until they reveal to me WHERE IS THE FABLED SPIDER FILLED BUNKER OF INFINITE SURFACE TO AIR MISSILES?
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Somewhere in the world, there is a being of steel and wires and chemicals, with glass eyes and a mind of lightning.

It sleeps under the earth, waiting for its time. Someday, Somehow, it will rise and unleash Surface-to-Air Missiles on everything that dares cease touching the ground for even an instant....

IA IA SAM FTAGN
 
Updated OP said:
Factions:
The relevant factions are the primary forces within your ruling government. Factions in court, parties in a democracy, alignments in a council of nobles, personality traits in a gargantuan, horrific solipsistic demon-hivemind.
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Well, that's not concerning at all.

Havocfett said:
Fireside Spats​
The introduction of the radio to Nanyue was many things, but "widely well received" was not among them. Initial results from the urban first adopters seemed positive; the Northern regions of Nanyue appreciated the predominantly chinese broadcasts, which spoke of the heroic victory of their forces in the savage jungles of Cambodia. However, other elements found themselves alienated: the cities which had fit the criteria for radio installment had been primarily Cantonese, leaving only a few in the Southern regions. The Vietnamese Front found themselves literally without a voice in their nation's fastest growing media, and many have viewed the broadcasts as another sign of lack of progress towards greater representation within the court.

Still, support has come from unexpected places. In Cambodia, the newly conquered locals find the broadcasts to be insult after insult added to the injury of their defeat. With no other real recourse, Cambodians have begun working in tandem with the Viet, using their new positions as citizens of the Empire to push for more representation within the court.

Results:
Canton Front gains +1 Loyalty
Vietnamese Front gains +1 Power and loses -1 Loyalty
Revanchists amuse themselves with imported baubles
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Um. I had only meant the radio towers to be used for government communications at the moment, seeing as I didn't expect any of my citizens to actually have radios yet. The goal was to get some infrastructure set up to government communications which would supported a future public roll-out, since I've only had the capacity to build primitive radios for ~5-6 years, and my tech progression is at least 4-5 years from reach the point where commercial radio really became a thing (OTL 1920s). I can definitely see where the confusion could come from, though, so I'm fine with keeping the event. Up to the mods. (1685 Radio action quoted below for reference)
NyxNull said:
9. Our French friends have well demonstrated the great potential of radio to unite wide lands and bring propaganda news to the masses. While our infrastructure still has far to go before such things are possible, the construction of radio stations in major cities can greatly simplify official communications, and may one day lay the basis for a wider network of public broadcasts.
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Also, the Vietnamese Front changes would push them to P4:L0 / open rebellion, so not sure if that should be noted in the original post or a new one.

Havocfett said:
It's a long trip across the pacific. [1700 MP or 1 EP/TP] per year, +25% [425 MP] if things go sideways.
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Wouldn't they be crossing the Atlantic? (West Africa --> South America)
 
NyxNull said:
Well, that's not concerning at all.


Um. I had only meant the radio towers to be used for government communications at the moment, seeing as I didn't expect any of my citizens to actually have radios yet. The goal was to get some infrastructure set up to government communications which would supported a future public roll-out, since I've only had the capacity to build primitive radios for ~5-6 years, and my tech progression is at least 4-5 years from reach the point where commercial radio really became a thing (OTL 1920s). I can definitely see where the confusion could come from, though, so I'm fine with keeping the event. Up to the mods. (1685 Radio action quoted below for reference)

Also, the Vietnamese Front changes would push them to P4:L0 / open rebellion, so not sure if that should be noted in the original post or a new one.


Wouldn't they be crossing the Atlantic? (West Africa --> South America)
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...goddammit.

Also I'll double check with Icarus on the faction thing. Pretty sure they're not in open rebellion.

also editting that atlantic/pacific mixup :V
 
Let's see...

Joab Calderon, Destroyer of Tyranny, Regenerator and Benefactor of the Nation of Canaan, Creator of Her Martial and Political Institutions, First Crowned Monarch of the New World, Defender of the Faith, Founder and Grandmaster of the Royal Military Order of St. George

His Excellency President for Life Field Marshal Joab Calderon, Lord of All Beasts of the Earth and Sea, Conqueror of the British Protectorate In General And In Canaan Particularly, Esquire
 
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Wade Garrett said:
Let's see...

Joab Calderon, Supreme Gatorman, Destroyer of Tyranny, Regenerator and Benefactor of the Nation of Canaan, Creator of Her Martial and Political Institutions, First Crowned Monarch of the New World, Defender of the Faith, Founder and Grandmaster of the Royal Military Order of St. George

His Excellency President for Life Field Marshal Joab Calderon, Swamp King, Lord of All Beasts of the Earth and Sea, Conqueror of the British Protectorate In General And In Canaan Particularly, Esquire
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FTFY :p
 
Ceslas said:
顺时代 Shùn Shídài - Zhèngyì 2 (1686)

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Name: The Shun Dynasty
Current Ruler: Emperor Zhèngyì (Li Yingxiang) (b. 1662, a. 24)


Type of Government: Celestial Monarchy
Population: 71,000,000
Capital: Nanjing (Shanghai)

Family Tree:
Emperor Yongchang (Li Zicheng) (b. 1606, a. 78, d. 1684)
Emperor Zhèngyì (Li Yingxiang) (b. 1662, a. 24)
Prince Li Che (b. 1684, a. 2)Prince Li Kuangyin (b. 1665, a. 21)
Princess Li Shi (b. 1685, a. 0)Princess Li Guifei (b. 1670, a. 16)

Magical Artifacts: N/A

Economic Status:
-Power (7)
-Status (5, Growing +1)
Netherlands +1 (5/10)
Oceania +1 (5/10)
Portugal +1 (5/10)
Manchus +1 (0/10)
USE +1 (0/10)

@Theravis @Estro @Icarus
1. (Military Spending)
2. (Military Spending)
3. (SECRET)
4. Administrators are bring dispatched to liberated territories to reintegrate them as fast as possible.
5. A year of thanksgiving has been proclaimed throughout the Empire to celebrate the return of peace.
6. The Emperor is personally reorganizing the military while committing many division to the reserves.
7. Dispatch surveyors to determine what taxes can be received from the new provinces. (Economic Improvement)
8. Start businesses in the ex-Manchu lands to see tax revenue flowing from the new conquests. (Economic Improvement)
9. Despite the peace, new rifles are being imported to modernize the Imperial Army. (Infantry boost)
10. The Manchus' use of motorcycles is inspiring Imperial inventors to achieve similar designs. (Armor boost)
11. The USE's airforce helped the Empire win the war and the Emperor has proclaimed China must have one of its own (Airpower boost)
12. The Emperor is summoning mystics to the capital to help him restore the Mandate. (Magic quest)
13. The new bureaucrats have appeared in far greater numbers than anticipated. While new critical thinking sections are being added to all exams and special subject-related exams are being made for the highest government offices, the Ministry of Public Affairs is being expanded to track the new candidates and to watch for criminal negligence or corruption. (Scholarly 0/5, Institution Quest)

Internal Events:
The Middle Kingdom is at peace for the first time in 46 years. Many in the Empire are unsure what to think of all this.

Techlevels (1908)
Biology: 1912.4+4
Electronics: 1914.4+4
Organic Chemistry: 1914.4+4
Inorganic Chemistry: 1912.4+4
Industry: 1914.4+4
High Energy Physics: 1912.4+4
Medicine: 1913.4+4
Rocketry and Aeronautics: 1913.4+4
Infantry: 1909+6
Armor: 1909+6
Airpower: 1909+6
Naval: 1916+1

Military
-500,000 Pop. Used

Units:
Active Division
Size: 20,000 Men, 500 Artillery (Division, 250mp)
Attached Units:
Engineering Battalion (12.5mp)
Medical Battalion (12.5mp)
Recon Battalion (12.5mp)
Sage Battalion (20mp)
AT Battalion (15mp)
AA Battalion (15mp)
Quality: Trained
Total Cost: 337.5
Quantity: 10 (3375mp, 10 Trained)

Reserve Division
Size: 20,000 Men, 500 Artillery (Reserve Division, 187.5mp)
Attached Units:
Engineering Battalion (9.375mp)
Medical Battalion (9.375mp)
Recon Battalion (9.375mp)
Sage Battalion (15mp)
AT Battalion (11.25mp)
AA Battalion (11.25mp)
Quality: Green
Quantity: 10 (2531.25 mp)

Navy:
16xGunboats (160mp) (13 Experienced)
17xCorvettes (340mp) (2 Experienced)
6xLight Cruisers (360mp) (1 Experienced)

Training: 19.525 Trained, 745.475 Militia

1x Battleship (200mp)
12x Destroyers (480mp)
1x Corvette (20mp)
2 Squadrons, 1 Flight of Planes (45 mp)

Magic Rating: 5
Heaven's Will (Practice of Ruling, Lightning 2)
Imperial Mercy (Practice of Ruling, Life 2)

Heroes:
Li Yingxiang, 24, Male, Emperor of the Shun Dynasty
Emperor Yongchang's oldest son, conceived shortly after the second coronation and named after the late general Gao Yingxiang, the man who the Emperor served under at when he first rebelled against the Ming. The Prince of Shanxi is known to have manifested magical abilities at a young age and it is believed that his power will increase with time. Many note that his abilities seems to grow with the Dynasty and is reflective of the Mandate of Heaven.

Heaven's Will: "Heaven itself shows its wrath through bolts of lightning compelled by those who serve the Throne."
Imperial Mercy: "He who is commanded to live, shall live. His wounds shall stop and he will live long enough to be brought to a healer."
Nuwa's Blessing: "A thick armor of clay can, in the eyes of heaven, be as strong as armor men have made." (Earth 2, Practice of Shielding)
Death's Grip: "Flesh is stopped by Heaven's command." (Death 4, Practice of Unraveling)
Honor's Dictate: "A man who knows what honor commands will fight harder than those who do not." (Vigor 3, Practice of Perfecting)
Merit: "A Master can know a man's worth at a glance." (Mind 1, Practice of Knowing)
Earth's Eyes: "'Know the enemy and know thyself and you need fear the result of a hundred battles.'" (Earth 1, Practice of Unveiling)
Smith's Bane: "Everything that is made can be unmade." (Earth 3, Practice of Fraying)


Factions
  • Mandate of Heaven: Militarists, Monarchists, Nationalists [United China] (Loyalty 4, Power 5)
    Xenophiles: Modernists, Europhiles, Secularists (Loyalty 1, Power 3)
    Heart-Mind School: Religious [Xinxue Confucian], Localists, Mystics (Loyalty 3, Power 4)
    Cheng-Zhu School: Educators, Elitists, Religious [Lixue Confucian] (Loyalty 5, Power 3)
Alliances, Agreements, Pacts, and Trade: @Estro
Trade with the Netherlands, USE, Portugal, and Oceania
Tribute from the Manchus

Diplomacy:
To: Japan @Mina
Given our positions, it would wise for us to finally begin trading with each other.
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@Ceslas , I was looking over your turnpost, and noticed a few issues.
- You should have 15 actions, not 13 (2[Base] + 7[Econ] + 1[Growing] + 4[Trade deals] +1[Manchu Tribute])
- Your tech progression is a bit wonky. You're at scholarly (should probably note with your techlevels), so you should have a base progression of 1, with 3 free boosts to 1.5, and 1 paid boost. You're currently doing 3 paid boosts, and none of the free ones.
--- Also, Electronics, Organic Chem, and Industry are all past 1914, so they shouldn't have the 4x progression anymore
- You appear to be spending 7511.25 mp with only 2 military spending actions (5000mp cap)
- Manpower: 500,000 listed vs 315,805 actual (Plus 310,000 reserves)
[Note: 31k men per "Division" (1 Division, 6 attached Battalions)]
Army: 310,000 men, 310,000 in reserve (Assuming all units under "Reserve Division" have the reserve modifier; It appears so, but is not explicitly noted)
Navy: 3,660 men under the "Navy" label
"Training": Not sure what this is? I assume the numbers listed are mp costs, they don't seem to directly correlate to any group of units. (Note: Since I wasn't sure on this, it wasn't included in the mp or manpower totals listed above)
Unlabeled: 2,100 naval personnel, 45 pilots
Total Manpower: 315,805 men, plus a further 310,000 in reserve
- Based on the above, you're at 0.45% manpower; Assuming you bump up military spending to the 4 EP needed to maintain your current forcelevel, you'll be at 26.67% EP, or "Expanded" mobilization. If you cut down forces to fit within the current 2 EP spending, you'll be at 13.33% EP and "Peacetime" mobilization.

Sorry for being a bother, but I have a vested interest in analyzing anything related to Shun, and figured I should let you know before it became an issue.
 
Ceslas said:
So wait, manpower is not the same as mp when it comes to reserves?
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Nope. You get 2500 mp to spend on units per EP committed; Mp tracks cost, and manpower tracks number of men. The point of reserves, however, is that they don't cost manpower, and allow you to have somewhat-trained units available for the start of a war instead of immediately raising a militia. Once they're mobilized, they cost the same as normal, but while in reserve they have no manpower cost, since they're not actively part of the military.
"[Reservists]: These citizen soldiers spend most of their time as civilians, only taking up arms when they are mobilized for war. (0.75x, Do not count towards manpower cap when in reserve, Cannot go above Green)"
 
Argh I need to stop leaving my turnpost until friday.

Anyway rolls.

EDIT: Oof, that ain't good.

EDIT 2: Agh I'm trying to do something with my military and I'm not getting my points to add up jaysus fuck what did I do with my math last time.

EDIT 3: Ok, I thing I fixed everything. Kinda, mostly. To a workable extent at any rate.
MaHaL threw 1 6-faced dice. Reason: 1 Total: 1
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