Lab_Accident
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Hey, SW. I can't remember right now, during Taylor's world tour, did she by any chance visit that river in Egypt? You know, Denial?
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Magical Girl Escalation Taylor (Worm/Nanoha)
- Thread starter Silently Watches
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Dude, really?
Silently Watches
Professional Stalker
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Funny, but let's put all ambiguity aside for a moment. Right now I have no plans for putting Taylor in any pairing, straight or gay. That's not to say it can't happen, just that I don't have any plans. Even with all that, Taylor in canon was straight. Is it possible for her to have a sexual awakening and realize she's also attracted to women? Sure, especially considering this IS a crossover with the lesbian-heavy MGLN series, but it won't be anywhere near as simple as her looking at Kayleigh or Laura one day and thinking, "I've never thought through it before, but I'd totally tap that". It would take a great deal of character development, not to mention a degree of player focus that I have yet to see once out of you guys through the entirety of this game.
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Very true. Feelings are complicated things to work out after all, and they completely forgot the mandatory wave motion beam required to catalyze such things!
So what your saying is, we could have a Laura Route, but we would have to work at it... Interesting!
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Excellent, I'm in this for friendship with a side of massive lasers and comedic misunderstandings. Just ignoring cannon preferences annoys me nine times out of ten.
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By the time you're not only writing fan-fiction, but doing a full crossover (with bonus personality-alteration! I didn't forget the invisitext :3 ) ...... I really don't see canon to be some ironclad stone-carved decree.
Much less when the canon character, as far as I'm aware, was generally antisocial and had maybe... two named persons of interest?
It'd be like going at the vast swath of Harry Potter fanfiction and declaring that no author should be writing any sort of pairing besides Ginny, because that was his canon choice.
*silent staring ensues*
I'd rather acknowledge changes where they're made and write (or vote) whats interesting for this story. And so far, uhh..... whens the last time this Taylor talked to a boy anywhere near her age?? Bouncer ?
Much less when the canon character, as far as I'm aware, was generally antisocial and had maybe... two named persons of interest?
It'd be like going at the vast swath of Harry Potter fanfiction and declaring that no author should be writing any sort of pairing besides Ginny, because that was his canon choice.
*silent staring ensues*
I'd rather acknowledge changes where they're made and write (or vote) whats interesting for this story. And so far, uhh..... whens the last time this Taylor talked to a boy anywhere near her age?? Bouncer ?
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I mean, I know what Hellsing told us all, but I'm honestly not sure how many people in either Worm or MGLN Canon qualify as Gun-Sexual... Even if some of them definitely love their Dakka.
We have shown no real romantic attraction towards Laura at this juncture, so there's no support for your/Kayleigh's TaylorxLaura Shipping.
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IF ANYTHING CAN BRING US TOGETHER ITS SHIPPING.
13th Bee
Worker
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There's actually a pretty strong argument that canon Taylor actually does have some degree of attraction to girls. It's centered on the way that the narration of Worm consistently describes female characters in ways that emphasize their attractiveness. Given that the narration is first person, that means that Taylor notices and thinks about other women in the way that someone attracted to women does.
Now, the obvious Doylist reason for this is that Wildbow failed to separate himself from his writing sufficiently to prevent his attraction to women from leaking in. Regardless of that though, it means that Taylor being into girls in a fic is decently justifiable, which is honestly more than can be said of a whole lot of stuff.
The other interpretation is that Taylor thinks she is ugly and is constantly comparing her appearance to others, coming up short in the process.
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[x] Laura on a run on the beach
-[x] If Missy's that bad, maybe Laura has picked up on it too? If she has guessed, she may be able to provide additional advice. Ask her if she ever hangs out with other capes outside of work like Kayleigh suggested to you
While I love the crack vote for full on shipping, given a night's sleep on it even Taylor could probably see the verbal trap Kayleigh set for us.
Not that it keeps it from being GOOD advice, just that she can see where phrasing is a thing. Slow and steady wins the pairing
(Plus this is probably a better setup for 4 months down the line and multiple 'friendly hangouts' Laura kisses Taylor who's like "WTF? Aren't you supposed to ask me out first?" and Laura goes "Taylor, we've been dating for four months.")
-[x] If Missy's that bad, maybe Laura has picked up on it too? If she has guessed, she may be able to provide additional advice. Ask her if she ever hangs out with other capes outside of work like Kayleigh suggested to you
While I love the crack vote for full on shipping, given a night's sleep on it even Taylor could probably see the verbal trap Kayleigh set for us.
Not that it keeps it from being GOOD advice, just that she can see where phrasing is a thing. Slow and steady wins the pairing
(Plus this is probably a better setup for 4 months down the line and multiple 'friendly hangouts' Laura kisses Taylor who's like "WTF? Aren't you supposed to ask me out first?" and Laura goes "Taylor, we've been dating for four months.")
Valley of River
Photographer of the Valley of the River
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- Canada. In a Valley. With a River.
Honestly, for a straight pairing to happen at this point would take even more work than a gay route. not saying it's impossible, but the only guys we've got good social with at the moment are outright illegal options due to age difference. we'd need to find a guy our age, and then commit to a HELL of a lot of social. most likely by now is that Taylor's still single at the end of the quest, seeing as we've been more of a workaholic than S1 Nanoha was. though the Danny/Privateers mess seems to have been a bit of a wakeup call, so there's a chance we might get a pairing.
Mainly, I'm just voting Laura because a) I'm a shipper, and that little bit of hope won't go anywhere if I don't cast a vote, and b) I actually like Laura, and I'm REALLY hoping we can either poach or Befriend her before it's too late. also hoping we can avoid a Privateers incident with Missy (though that particular dumpster fire seems to be under control for now).
EDIT: Also, missed this, but @ChaoticSky, you obviously missed the Fur V. Fang Shipping War (my elementary school had it particularly bad. the few people like me who didn't know or care about what Twilight was were constantly badgered about which side we were on. even the teachers got in on it).
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If you want to get into calling out individuals, maybe you're too violently against any sort of romance subplots in a story to remember this is a QUEST, and if we want to see something in the story at some point we have to actually get off our ass and vote for it? Its an insultingly circular argument to keep saying "we haven't yet seen a character show a behavior, so we can't possibly be allowed to vote for acting on a behavior!!!"
Or would you like to tell me where in canon Missy showed such a deep love of transhumanism that she'd volunteer to get a giant combat cyborg arm with laser canons instead of a "I can forget its there" prosthetic? Or what the canon basis is for Dragon largely ditching Armsmaster (have we heard his name since Tim's cybernetics got reviewed by a board?) for a shiny new Tinker with a new field of science for her to play with?
If you remember, I didn't vote for that.
Valley of River
Photographer of the Valley of the River
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- Canada. In a Valley. With a River.
uh, guys? can we NOT go the "youtube comment section dissolves into arguments, flames, and hate" route, please? I don't wanna get the thread closed because people couldn't keep it civil.
Lab_Accident
A 2D 1D4
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Huh, this turned into a whole thing. I mostly made that joke because it was a low-hanging fruit, and bad wannnabe comedians (but I repeat myself) can't afford to be picky.
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[x] Laura on a run on the beach
-[x] Take Kayleigh's suggestion literally. Ask Laura out to dinner and/or a movie. (For heroic purposes. You just want to feel out her…heroic tendencies)
-[x] Take Kayleigh's suggestion literally. Ask Laura out to dinner and/or a movie. (For heroic purposes. You just want to feel out her…heroic tendencies)
Silently Watches
Professional Stalker
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Really it's more like looking at HP fanfiction and declaring that Harry can never be with Draco because he was canonically attracted to girls and canon Draco is a worthless piece of shit. Which I personally agree with. /devilsadvocate
I will not (cannot, more like) contest this though. Pairings of any flavor will take quite a bit of work so long as Taylor is still juggling multiple dumpster fires. Also, two of the three males Taylor has done any socialing with at all are gay and in a relationship with each other, so that makes it even more difficult.
Keep in mind that I did not say Taylor/Laura or other Taylor/girl COULDN'T happen. It just would require a great deal of effort on your part. If you guys as a whole put that effort in where it feels natural for the characters to enter a romantic relationship, then we can talk about it in more detail.
Agreed. @landcollector @Racoras I think you've both made your opinions on this and the long-ago transhumanist vote clear. Walk away from your computers for a few minutes to calm down. A work of fiction is not something worth getting upset about.
Can confirm this does happen. My S.O. was surprised early on in our relationship to find out we had been dating for a few months already. Now it's something we (okay, *I* along with both our sets of parents) just laugh about.
Yeah, I'm moving on.
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The answer is that they are both shit, and so is twilight.
I must protest this. Taylor is far less of a workaholic then S1 Nanoha. Remember Nanoha trained constantly to the point she was doing simulations, like we can, during class. On top of that whenever she had free time she was out actually training, like with that can game we see at the beginning of S2. Her workaholism got the point it was negatively effecting her friendships and her civilian friends intervened in a (failed) attempt to get her to explain herself.
Taylor for comparison has used Perfect Storm's simulations like twice, there haven't been any comments about her behavior at school from her friends, and regularly takes at least one social action every week. Seriously our Actions last week were:
- [] Explore another world. If you do not select a world where Taylor has been or already knows about, one will be selected randomly.
-[] Missy needs a chance to de-stress and she enjoyed your world tour; maybe touring a new world will be even better? - [] Hang out with another character(s). This is by definition a non-combat activity.
-[] Alexandria wanted some vials and you wanted some answers. - [] Train, either in the real world or in Perfect Storm's simulator. SPECIFY which spell to work on.
-[] Ragnarök is your ultimate spell but you've never tested it. Maybe you should fix that before the next Endbringer attack. Do it in a simulation.
Even if you count our meeting with Alexandria as work, which is fair, that still puts a third of her time being socially focused. Yes that day trip ended up turning violent but that wasn't exactly planned. Plus we are literally on vacation right now; it isn't turning out very relaxing but it is a vacation.
From what we see Taylor does seem to have a fairly healthy work/life balance. It is just that we only ever see the work side of things because that is generally what is interesting to write about. That isn't even getting in the fact that while we only get 3 actions per week Taylor is probably only spending a couple hours at best on all 3 which leaves the vast majority of her week free for whatever she does in her free time.
Honestly Kayleigh's advice here:
is basically what Taylor already does. While Vista's problem is that she spends all her time working Taylor's is she spends all her time with the same people she works with. Much as I dislike her Kayleigh is basically Taylor's only non-work related friend.
Which almost certainly isn't going to change barring Silently forcing more OCs into the cast. We, the players, are never going to chose to spend time with a pure civilian since they just aren't relevant to the plot of the quest. This quest isn't about Taylor's daily life, otherwise weeks would take a lot longer to get through, it is about her life as a mage. So everything we, the players, do by design revolves around her status as a mage in some way or another.