Magical Girl Escalation Taylor (Worm/Nanoha)
- Thread starter Silently Watches
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- Ekaterinburg, Russia
@Silently Watches, two questions.
1) How likely is it that Al-Hazredians have ENGINEERED the Linker Core trait into their population, going from low-magic to high-magic society? (Ponders) Possibly removing the less human results altogether by violence...
2) Is it possible to TAILOR the Linker Core mutagenesis to a SPECIFIC individual, as opposed to using a generalized procedure? Reducing the side effects, trial testing on tissue samples, removing crit fails, etc, etc?
1) How likely is it that Al-Hazredians have ENGINEERED the Linker Core trait into their population, going from low-magic to high-magic society? (Ponders) Possibly removing the less human results altogether by violence...
2) Is it possible to TAILOR the Linker Core mutagenesis to a SPECIFIC individual, as opposed to using a generalized procedure? Reducing the side effects, trial testing on tissue samples, removing crit fails, etc, etc?
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- Location
- Ural, Russia, Earth
My plan for Tim is something like this:
- Help the Enforcers to repair their ship (2 slots)
- Build Intelligent Device for PRT's AA-rank mage (2 slots)
- Adapt a Power armor for Vista, maybe add to it a Clockblocker blaster (1-2 slots)
- Help the Enforcers to repair their ship (2 slots)
- Build Intelligent Device for PRT's AA-rank mage (2 slots)
- Adapt a Power armor for Vista, maybe add to it a Clockblocker blaster (1-2 slots)
That always was my head-canon!
Read, give Case 53s mutations which will let them survive without their power, give them a linker core, then plug in a Device
Hoyden
Hugbot v0.28
- Location
- UK
So if we say, focused on one person at a time we could do something like.
3 build slots - Enhanced eyes (Visual spectrum) [One to build, one to focus the mutation, one to social the
Then
3 Build slots - Enhanced hearing [One to build, one to focus the mutation, one to social the
Or could we potentially do
1 Build/Social slot - Talk about mutagen.
2 build slots - Build focused mutagen - Eyes
2 buuld slots - Build focused mutagen - Ears
Each with the end goal of upping their chances for a
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- Location
- Koszalin, Poland
"Oh gosh, all the BEES! Alternate version of me sucks!"
"You suggest that I'm a workaholic? Workaholism is obviously a myth created by conspiracy theorists."
On mutations - they grant additional ratings in a way? If someone hit by a mutation bomb suddenly decided to become a cape, what kind of ratings they would have? Do they depend on potential 'animal' or 'monster' they are based on?
Because this may be an alternative way to grant people powers if they don't have magical core and they are volunteers. Yeah, we may actually create our own version of Case 53's... x_X
Maybe if there is a way to improve intelligence it may be possible to do it to animals and grant them sapience, but I get a feeling this one would go horribly for sure
. Well, I think personally it's better to get a chance to gain something then stay for the rest of your life as a 'cape cripple' taking into account how obssesed with whole cape thing he is.
And he's an asshole, so whatever
. And Blasto. And call Lab Ray from the Birdcage (if he is Birdcage bound here) and some few more friends to experiment with. It obviously can't go wrong! And let's start with Panacea's 'corruption', better now then later
. On more serious note it would be nice to get assistance of dedicated bio-tinker or biokinetic as long as they are... reasonably friendly towards us and general population as this kind of insight on analyzing mutation bomb would be nice.
NotInventedHere
MSV, Desert Class
- Location
- UK
- Pronouns
- He/Him
.... Hmmmmm. Hey @Silently Watches? What happens to an animal with a Linker Core that's then made into a Guardian Beast?
Hoyden
Hugbot v0.28
- Location
- UK
I wonder if Tim could build a Unison device with Mutagenic properties. Kind of like the proposed Guardian Beast Unison device.
Hey @Silently Watches would this be ok?
[ ] Sudden Evolution
-[ ] BUILD Unison device with mutagenic modulator (Patent pending) GB assisting. [?? Build slots]
Device designed to mutate normal humans into magicalgirls humans via controled mutations over time.
Hey @Silently Watches would this be ok?
[ ] Sudden Evolution
-[ ] BUILD Unison device with mutagenic modulator (Patent pending) GB assisting. [?? Build slots]
Device designed to mutate normal humans into magical
Silently Watches
Professional Stalker
- Location
- Right behind you
Not exactly, but I would take prior mutations into account when doing the Linker Core mutation.
Highly likely.
Not in the time scale of this quest.
It would be this one.
That's the overall goal. The ratings would depend on what mutation you grant and how severe the mutation is.
If it has a minor power, the GB could have the same power. Otherwise it's exactly the same as an animal without a Linker Core.
Huh…
NVM. Yes, absolutely you can do this.
- Location
- Ekaterinburg, Russia
Took me a bit of thinking, but the right and proper reaction to this ought to be: "What a hypocrite."
He was one of the first, Balance-free, Cauldron volunteers. He drank an undiluted vial in hopes of getting powers, under great risk of death/mutation. How is THIS any different?
Is that why all the Midchildans with Rare Skills or Inheritor bloodlines have funky eye and hair colors?
Silently Watches
Professional Stalker
- Location
- Right behind you
That's my explanation for it.
Because it isn't the power itself that's the issue. I feel like I've made this comment before.
Eidolon doesn't see Taylor as a fellow or a colleague. She's competition. She's a replacement. In his mind, Alexandria and Legend are already planning on giving his old place in the Triumvirate to this arrogant newcomer with fancy new toys. He isn't going to accept any hand she offers, and the possible consequences are just the excuse he would give to cover up his bitterness.
He's the assembly worker whose job was taken over by automation or the coal miner in a society moving towards green energy, ranting and complaining about how the world is leaving him behind instead of trying to train himself in a new field.
- Location
- Koszalin, Poland
I find this interesting. Because it may be amusing when whole human species at one point gain some mutation and a horde of let's say catgirls and foxgirls running around sounds kind of funny to me.
Maybe this can work in a weakened version where for example device 'mutates' human body to the point it becomes something equal or slightly better Peak Human Condition.
In other words we get something like Batman 'human peak' or we recreate something similar to Super-Soldier Serum which allowed to create Captain America. I think with this it would be doable to recreate without any 'non-human' additions. At worst changed eye colors or something. Still counts under 'mutations' but more limited. Even if it would end up with basic Brute 1 / Thinker 1 / Mover 1 it would already be a great bonus, especially with proper equipment.
I guess there would be some...
Because if you can turn into a dragon, you go for it
.Or even better idea, which obviously can't go wrong. Modify mutant grenade or use mentioned device to mutate some more intelligent animals. Modify them so they become something close to Symbiotes and let them connect with their hosts, true symbiosis!
At this point he would suspect that she is at best neutral towards Protectorate? Taylor doesn't really hide it. His colleagues possibly could mention this to him unless they didn't. If she wanted to already be government based hero, she would already join Wards. I guess he is simply too jaded and bitter to see it or simply believes that this will change. Oh well, whatever.
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- Location
- Earth, Sol System, Virgo Supercluster, Earth-1218
Why are the Calamity Warlocks Snake Pliskin?
If we accidentally make The Lizard I'm going to be annoyed. Amused, but also slightly annoyed.
(Didn't Taylor make Samantha out of a nearly dead Raccoon for just this ethical reason? Going to a pound and giving 3 limbed dogs their fourth leg back while working to minimize the Monsterization is pretty much conflict free and a good way to practice before moving to human trials. If we could get Panacea to oversee it the first few times to help tweak the process all the better.*)
YES! I've had a few votes in the last few blocks where I know the answer OOC is No, or That won't help in the scope of the game, but I feel the need to ask IC. (I accept that his power is gone, but I kind of hope we can get Danny back as a parental figure, even if he isn't a cape.)
NO! BAD! Back in the cage Shou Tucker!
What's next, we give them Ink based weaponry and send them out to paint the town neon colors?
*I wasn't around on the thread back before we left Brokton Bay... did we ever interact with Panacea? (Also I don't remember what happened to New Wave)
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I'm sure there are plenty of people who'd volunteer to turn into Steve Rodgers, even if they ended up looking like a Dragonborn to do it. That they may be able to sign up for a chance of magic powers at the same time? SOLD!
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Silently Watches
Professional Stalker
- Location
- Right behind you
…Venom is actually a possibility in the future. Just not with Mutagenics. That's a ways down the tech-version of Infinite Enhancement cross-training.
He really just doesn't care. Don't challenge his grudge with facts.
Silently Watches
Professional Stalker
- Location
- Right behind you
Vote 11.12
And on that note, the vote for Tim's next build session is now open. Kind of sucks that there wasn't as many ideas flying around as I had hoped, but I guess opening a brand new can of worms right before the vote may not have been the best timing.
Please refer again to THE RULES on how to organize the plan vote if you have any doubts on your format.
And on that note, the vote for Tim's next build session is now open. Kind of sucks that there wasn't as many ideas flying around as I had hoped, but I guess opening a brand new can of worms right before the vote may not have been the best timing.
Please refer again to THE RULES on how to organize the plan vote if you have any doubts on your format.
Lab_Accident
A 2D 1D4
- Location
- Your dreams
Putting an old plan out there for consideration.
[] Plan Barriers and More Barriers
-[] Tim works with Nostromos: barrier-projector drone recharge station/command HUB/drone asembly unit incorporating mobile command center AI "Mandy" , current magitech drone and miniaturized hardlight projector tech. (4 slots)
-[] Refit armor for Vista, add flight capabilities. (1 slot)
-[] (Firefly) Make a manatech sniper rifle for Vista. (1 slot)
-[] (Firefly) Prototype personal self-deploying hard-light shield (1 slot)
[] Plan Barriers and More Barriers
-[] Tim works with Nostromos: barrier-projector drone recharge station/command HUB/drone asembly unit incorporating mobile command center AI "Mandy" , current magitech drone and miniaturized hardlight projector tech. (4 slots)
-[] Refit armor for Vista, add flight capabilities. (1 slot)
-[] (Firefly) Make a manatech sniper rifle for Vista. (1 slot)
-[] (Firefly) Prototype personal self-deploying hard-light shield (1 slot)
[X] Plan Allies Good
-[x] Slot 1: Analyze Myrddin Bomb
-[x] Slot 2: Analyze Wanton Bomb
-[x] Slot 3: Build Intelligent Device for PRT's AA rank mage to specifications(takes 2 slots)
-[x] Slot 4: Build Intelligent Device for PRT's AA rank mage to specifications(takes 2 slots)
-[x] Slot 5(GBs): Help the Enforcers to repair their ship (2 slots)
-[x] Slot 6(GBs): Help the Enforcers to repair their ship (2 slots)
-[x] Slot 1: Analyze Myrddin Bomb
-[x] Slot 2: Analyze Wanton Bomb
-[x] Slot 3: Build Intelligent Device for PRT's AA rank mage to specifications(takes 2 slots)
-[x] Slot 4: Build Intelligent Device for PRT's AA rank mage to specifications(takes 2 slots)
-[x] Slot 5(GBs): Help the Enforcers to repair their ship (2 slots)
-[x] Slot 6(GBs): Help the Enforcers to repair their ship (2 slots)
- Location
- New York
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] Plan Allies Good
-[x] Slot 1: Analyze Myrddin Bomb
-[x] Slot 2: Analyze Wanton Bomb
-[x] Slot 3: Build Intelligent Device for PRT's AA rank mage to specifications(takes 2 slots)
-[x] Slot 4: Build Intelligent Device for PRT's AA rank mage to specifications(takes 2 slots)
-[x] Slot 5(GBs): Help the Enforcers to repair their ship (2 slots)
-[x] Slot 6(GBs): Help the Enforcers to repair their ship (2 slots)
-[x] Slot 1: Analyze Myrddin Bomb
-[x] Slot 2: Analyze Wanton Bomb
-[x] Slot 3: Build Intelligent Device for PRT's AA rank mage to specifications(takes 2 slots)
-[x] Slot 4: Build Intelligent Device for PRT's AA rank mage to specifications(takes 2 slots)
-[x] Slot 5(GBs): Help the Enforcers to repair their ship (2 slots)
-[x] Slot 6(GBs): Help the Enforcers to repair their ship (2 slots)
- Location
- Georgia
It's been a busy couple of days here. This post gets long, even for me. I'm putting my questions for SW up here at the top instead of with a relevant quote in case s/he doesn't want to read through this mess.
I see a lot of people voting, but did not see SW open the vote. Did I miss that?
@Silently Watches Can the mutations be made germ line? If they default to that, can they be modified to not change future generations?
Second: Did the janitor get a GB? Responding to the call doesn't necessarily mean he was allowed to stay for the ritual training. If he has one, which style of GB did he get? That's pure curiosity, as I don't see it mattering, unless he got one of the Masks, i.e. the type with powers that are most easily abused.
Third: Are you sure they wouldn't be willing to take boost devices for Force Teleport? In the short term, that would let them teleport criminals directly from the scene to secured cells, and in the medium term, they would be part of the team needed to send an Endbringer to orbit without dying as a result
Fourth: What would happen if Taylor were to put on a suit of power armor and then activate her barrier jacket? A long time ago, you vetoed putting the barrier jacket over the armor. What I'm looking for is whether the jacket would appear under the armor or the armor would vanish with the rest of her clothes, returning if, say, she got knocked out or otherwise lost her jacket for some reason.
Fifth: Provided we can make germ line changes, how much control could we get over mutating animals. We already overbreed animals and kill off ones that have undesirable traits, so a number of trials where the results of a mutation wouldn't be allowed to pass on its genes(they could be sterilized if you want to be humane) wouldn't be that big of a stretch
I think the problem wasn't so much that Legend ordered Cat Sith to not be by Standstill's side 100% of the time, and more that he sent Standstill out to patrol and Cat Sith to stay at headquarters. Or, to put this a different way, he sent Standstill into potential danger and ordered a Beast of the Shield to stay away from her. If Standstill asked her to stay in cat form while around her civilian identity, I doubt that would bother her at all unless real danger threatened, in which case blowing her cover is by far the lesser evil.
A janitor showed up. I'm less certain that the janitor was allowed to make a GB, though they may have done so just to observe him and see the differences between him and the more combat oriented PRT troopers.
See the question to SW above, namely: We should try to convince them to take boost devices for the Force Teleport spell, which SW has said is only available on boost devices.
I think what you should aim for instead is for all mutations to be internal. I think SW's a lot more likely to allow that than a mutation to look unmutated.
Alexi would be taking the message to every long term care and cancer ward in the world after being saved by a drink that had lower odds of success, as there was only a one in seven chance that she'd have powers without severe mutations, and only a three in seven chance of surviving at all, iirc.
Agility would be a low mover rating, not brute. As for eyes, behold the magnificence that is the mantis shrimp: 10 Eye-Popping Facts About Mantis Shrimp 4th fact.
You've evidently not watched Ghost in the Shell
If you knew how those worked, you'd be far less enthusiastic about the idea. Image taking the last joint of your finger, Bending it back to be at a right angle to the rest of the finger, and the claw curving down from the tip of that finger to where the tip of your finger used to be
We really need to bring Bonesaw and Panacea in on this. I've spoken before about giving linker cores to the entire population, but I didn't think we'd be capable of it within the scope of the campaign. You've just changed that, to an extent. Those two might be able to narrow down the mutation window, make it more likely to succeed, such as by making it a 3d6 roll, keep 2. Even if all three of them had to be involved in the tailoring process right now, that wouldn't necessarily be the case once we had a chance to get a lot more data. Even their shards would likely be interested in this, as it is using the power in new and unexpected ways.
The loss of parahuman abilities after bonding to a device would, I think, result in a society that trains people as children to learn magic entirely without devices until their mid to late twenties, since parahuman abilities tend to trigger during this timeframe, and transcendent gadgeteers can decipher tinker designs. Every person with a set of powers they can't stand and anybody willing to take the risk of permanently ending their chances of becoming parahumans would then get a device, type determined by personality reviews and career counseling. I mean, we already give police officers a full psych profile before they're given their badges, so it's not so unreasonable a check to make before letting them get tier 2 devices.
Yep.
This brings up the question of what mutations we can give to animals. That's another question moved to the top for SW.
Why not keep it as girls? Who needs guys, anyways =P
Being asexual but not aromantic, I really don't care what sexes we have. I just find the idea amusing.
Regardless of any bitterness he has right now, he still has a little over 30 powers left. When he gets down to a handful, that offer of new powers is going to look so much more attractive.
Raccoon girl, to be more like Sam.
I see a lot of people voting, but did not see SW open the vote. Did I miss that?
@Silently Watches Can the mutations be made germ line? If they default to that, can they be modified to not change future generations?
Second: Did the janitor get a GB? Responding to the call doesn't necessarily mean he was allowed to stay for the ritual training. If he has one, which style of GB did he get? That's pure curiosity, as I don't see it mattering, unless he got one of the Masks, i.e. the type with powers that are most easily abused.
Third: Are you sure they wouldn't be willing to take boost devices for Force Teleport? In the short term, that would let them teleport criminals directly from the scene to secured cells, and in the medium term, they would be part of the team needed to send an Endbringer to orbit without dying as a result
Fourth: What would happen if Taylor were to put on a suit of power armor and then activate her barrier jacket? A long time ago, you vetoed putting the barrier jacket over the armor. What I'm looking for is whether the jacket would appear under the armor or the armor would vanish with the rest of her clothes, returning if, say, she got knocked out or otherwise lost her jacket for some reason.
Fifth: Provided we can make germ line changes, how much control could we get over mutating animals. We already overbreed animals and kill off ones that have undesirable traits, so a number of trials where the results of a mutation wouldn't be allowed to pass on its genes(they could be sterilized if you want to be humane) wouldn't be that big of a stretch
I think the problem wasn't so much that Legend ordered Cat Sith to not be by Standstill's side 100% of the time, and more that he sent Standstill out to patrol and Cat Sith to stay at headquarters. Or, to put this a different way, he sent Standstill into potential danger and ordered a Beast of the Shield to stay away from her. If Standstill asked her to stay in cat form while around her civilian identity, I doubt that would bother her at all unless real danger threatened, in which case blowing her cover is by far the lesser evil.
A janitor showed up. I'm less certain that the janitor was allowed to make a GB, though they may have done so just to observe him and see the differences between him and the more combat oriented PRT troopers.
See the question to SW above, namely: We should try to convince them to take boost devices for the Force Teleport spell, which SW has said is only available on boost devices.
I think what you should aim for instead is for all mutations to be internal. I think SW's a lot more likely to allow that than a mutation to look unmutated.
Alexi would be taking the message to every long term care and cancer ward in the world after being saved by a drink that had lower odds of success, as there was only a one in seven chance that she'd have powers without severe mutations, and only a three in seven chance of surviving at all, iirc.
Agility would be a low mover rating, not brute. As for eyes, behold the magnificence that is the mantis shrimp: 10 Eye-Popping Facts About Mantis Shrimp 4th fact.
You've evidently not watched Ghost in the Shell
If you knew how those worked, you'd be far less enthusiastic about the idea. Image taking the last joint of your finger, Bending it back to be at a right angle to the rest of the finger, and the claw curving down from the tip of that finger to where the tip of your finger used to be
It would be the same mutation applied every time, so no, it would be consistent. The sensory/agility benefits would be minor as befitting the mutations in question. Not to foxfire. Poison glands maybe.
As was implied during the chapter, that mage is a field agent and will get a variety of spells. You can not vote on her spell selection, but of the advanced Devices, an Intelligent Device would be best.
You'll have to be more specific.
I wondered how long it would take for someone to ask this question.
The answer to your question is "yes but". Yes, you can create a Linker Core in someone who pops up negative for one naturally. But, it comes with risks. Namely, Tim has no clue how to control this the way he can other mutations.
The process would be the following:
1) Taylor and Tim would need to spend a social activity/build slot talking to the prospective mutatee.
2) Once given the mutagenic, I would roll 2d6 to find out what happens next. 12 is a critical success, Linker Core with the most minor of changes. We're talking anime hair or eye color. For 11 to 3, mutations would crop up; the lower the number, the worse the mutation. 2 is a critical failure, so not only would the recipient get a terrible mutation, they also WOULD NOT get a Linker Core.
2a) The reason the roll is 2d6 instead of a d12 or something is because I want a nice bell curve. Most of the time, you would get moderate mutations to go with a Linker Core.
3) Assuming you don't get a crit fail, Linker Core strength and chance of Rare Skills would be rolled as normal.
Assuming you want to go this route, you might want to use it in-story on a random animal first. It would help alleviate Tim's anxiety.
We really need to bring Bonesaw and Panacea in on this. I've spoken before about giving linker cores to the entire population, but I didn't think we'd be capable of it within the scope of the campaign. You've just changed that, to an extent. Those two might be able to narrow down the mutation window, make it more likely to succeed, such as by making it a 3d6 roll, keep 2. Even if all three of them had to be involved in the tailoring process right now, that wouldn't necessarily be the case once we had a chance to get a lot more data. Even their shards would likely be interested in this, as it is using the power in new and unexpected ways.
The loss of parahuman abilities after bonding to a device would, I think, result in a society that trains people as children to learn magic entirely without devices until their mid to late twenties, since parahuman abilities tend to trigger during this timeframe, and transcendent gadgeteers can decipher tinker designs. Every person with a set of powers they can't stand and anybody willing to take the risk of permanently ending their chances of becoming parahumans would then get a device, type determined by personality reviews and career counseling. I mean, we already give police officers a full psych profile before they're given their badges, so it's not so unreasonable a check to make before letting them get tier 2 devices.
Yep.
This brings up the question of what mutations we can give to animals. That's another question moved to the top for SW.
Why not keep it as girls? Who needs guys, anyways =P
Being asexual but not aromantic, I really don't care what sexes we have. I just find the idea amusing.
Regardless of any bitterness he has right now, he still has a little over 30 powers left. When he gets down to a handful, that offer of new powers is going to look so much more attractive.
Raccoon girl, to be more like Sam.
- Location
- New York
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Actually Bonesaws still alive in Houston isn't she? Where Eidolon can keep an eye on her. And Panaceas in Boston, also with the PRT watching her every move.
Both would require heavy PRT involvement.
Both would require heavy PRT involvement.
- Location
- Georgia
My proposed plan, separate from the above post so it's more likely to be seen:
[] Plan PR
-[] Oversee construction of off site power plant for PRT (2 slots)
-[] Analyze Wanton bomb (1 slot)
-[]Analyse Myrrdin bomb (1 slot)
-[] Assist TSAB ship with repairs (2 slots)
@Silently Watches Is my plan doable? Exactly how they're giving slots to Tim is left up to you, but you've ok'ed combining analyzing the bombs like this in the prior vote, even though that vote didn't win.
This is 8 slots. We only have 6 with the gbs giving one to Tim, as they're not going to go to the ship alone, and they can't do devices or analyze the bombs for him.
Yes. Bonesaw is the only S9 member to survive being an S9 member, working for the Protectorate under heavy scrutiny, and Panacea is a Ward likewise under heavy scrutiny. Thus Legend could easily get their help if he decides what we're offering is worth it.
[] Plan PR
-[] Oversee construction of off site power plant for PRT (2 slots)
-[] Analyze Wanton bomb (1 slot)
-[]Analyse Myrrdin bomb (1 slot)
-[] Assist TSAB ship with repairs (2 slots)
@Silently Watches Is my plan doable? Exactly how they're giving slots to Tim is left up to you, but you've ok'ed combining analyzing the bombs like this in the prior vote, even though that vote didn't win.
This is 8 slots. We only have 6 with the gbs giving one to Tim, as they're not going to go to the ship alone, and they can't do devices or analyze the bombs for him.
Yes. Bonesaw is the only S9 member to survive being an S9 member, working for the Protectorate under heavy scrutiny, and Panacea is a Ward likewise under heavy scrutiny. Thus Legend could easily get their help if he decides what we're offering is worth it.
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