Magical Girl Escalation Taylor (Worm/Nanoha)

She attacked us by (essentially) figuring out our and Captain's civil identities. And everyone who we tell this will believe that she did so.

We defended ourselves.

That's a little too optimistic view on this in my opinion, and it will become our word against her word, and some people won't belive it even if perfect Strom shows proof because they will think it's tinker tech and could alter the evidence, and i dont think Tattletale has her reputation of outing secrets and messing with people, if this after the bank job I would be more willing due to her rep, but for now I think the risk outweighs the reward.

It 3:30am my time so I'll about to head to sleep and will be willing to discuss pros and cons in the morning
 
That's a little too optimistic view on this in my opinion, and it will become our word against her word, and some people won't belive it even if perfect Strom shows proof because they will think it's tinker tech and could alter the evidence, and i dont think Tattletale has her reputation of outing secrets and messing with people, if this after the bank job I would be more willing due to her rep, but for now I think the risk outweighs the reward.

It 3:30am my time so I'll about to head to sleep and will be willing to discuss pros and cons in the morning
1) PRT won't care at all, and would approve of us catching a villain on principle.
2) Faultline hates TT already
3) We don't care what villains think of us, and most of them either won't care, or will believe us, in my opinion.
 
Can someone explain why you guys insist on giving Lisa ammunition to use against Taylor? Because that's what talking to her does.

She already has enough ammunition to ruin us. Why worry about handing her a rifle when she already has a full battery of cannons pointed at us?
 
The whole "talking to her gives her more ammunition" things is also OOC knowledge as Taylor doesn't know how Lisa's power work. Try to limit that shit, Yog.
 
Because that's a death sentence for her if she's telling the truth about Coil having PRT agents? You might not care if Tattletale dies, but Taylor probably does.
1) Show why Taylor would care about a villain who is holding a gun to her head
2) That's assuming we believe her
3) We can easily drop her off in a different town. Or hold her ourselves, without involving PRT.
 
1) Show why Taylor would care about a villain who is holding a gun to her head
2) That's assuming we believe her
3) We can easily drop her off in a different town. Or hold her ourselves, without involving PRT.
Cause Taylor's not a sociopath/hardened murderer... yet.

Calamity Witch template combined with Worm probably means we'll end up killing someone eventually by accident. Not to mention, I think Genocide in general is one of the template's things.
 
1) Show why Taylor would care about a villain who is holding a gun to her head

Because she cares about not killing people? Laying aside moral considerations, she needs good public relations with the Protectorate, and it it turns out she killed a villain, and has only her word for it that it was in self-defense... might not turn out so well.

2) That's assuming we believe her

If we believe her, it's a death sentence. If we don't believe her, take her in, and then it turns out she was right, we'll feel terrible.

3) We can easily drop her off in a different town.

And that helps us with Coil how? Not to mention, what if something bad happens in BB while we're not here? Furthermore, moving her to a different town really doesn't help matters; either we spend all day with paperwork, time which isn't being spent on stuff we actually care about, or we drop her off, leave, and risk her retaliating via the Internet.

Or hold her ourselves, without involving PRT.

Oh yes, let's bring the Thinker to our home base, which has no jail cells. That makes sense. Seriously, you can't have it both ways: if you're gonna say that talking to Lisa at all gives her more ammunition, you have to also acknowledge that bringing her to our home base will also give her more ammunition. Even if we pick a random spot to hold her, the odds of her escaping go up, and she still gets more information by virtue of figuring out why we chose that particular spot. She doesn't just get information from talking; as long as she's conscious, she will be gathering more information than we want her to.

Sooo, kidnapping and unlawful imprisonment? No.

Also this.
 
And that helps us with Coil how? Not to mention, what if something bad happens in BB while we're not here? Furthermore, moving her to a different town really doesn't help matters; either we spend all day with paperwork, time which isn't being spent on stuff we actually care about, or we drop her off, leave, and risk her retaliating via the Internet.
IIRC Coil scored her while she wasn't even in Brockton Bay to begin with. He's fairly well off. Travel is not a problem, and his civilian persona can go many places with ease, his power ensures safety.
 
You guys definitely made this vote an interesting, if frustrating, one to count. I finally went ahead and merged all the "vet her information" votes together regardless of specific phrasing.

So, without further ado:
[X] Trust no one – Verify everything you've been told before making a decision. You don't trust either party in this situation, but you can't completely rule out that Tattletale is telling the truth. And it wouldn't hurt to have Perfect Storm do some digging of its own for verification, so you'll take a rain check for now.
-[X]But make it clear that she's the one asking you for help, so it's best for her to watch what she says and who's secrets she's throwing around. You're well within your rights to take her down to the PRT right now since she's prying into your secret identity and she's a Villain, so it's best for her to keep that in mind.
-[X] Begin by telling her that if we were really as crazy as she says we are, she would probably be dead right now. Possibly ask her if the cops and robbers thing is how the world works, or just how she wants it to work. We are already moving carefully to minimize the probability and potential impact of our actions beginning a gang war, but leaving things as they are is an even worse option no matter what she tries to tell herself.
No. of Votes: 50

[X] Believe her – Everything she has said sounds above-board. You can't completely rule out that there were lies mixed in, and it wouldn't hurt to have Perfect Storm do some digging of its own for verification, but you'll give her the benefit of the doubt.
No. of Votes: 32

[X] Hunt Lisa down. She definitely knows way too much about you and your father - this kind of intelligence can't be allowed to remain in the hands of a villain; blackmail is too obvious an outcome, especially if she really does work for Coil.
-[X] Fake her death, if possible (level the building she's in, for example)
-[X] Don't trust Coil for now
No. of Votes: 8

[x] Ask her if she's really psychic... by using telepathy.
No. of Votes: 6

[X] Ignore her – She have feeling she's telling the truth about giving Coil information on you and Danny, but everything else could be a lie and you'd never know it. Between the two of them, Coil seems to be the more trustworthy one.
No. of Votes: 2

-[X] Tell Lisa that she's full of shit, but you'll see what you can do about the situation.
--[X] Mentally request Perfect Storm to track Lisa in a way or ways that she'd find difficult to impossible to negate, and hopefully won't be picked up by her parahuman power.
---[X] Kill Coil at your next meeting by flash-vaporizing his head (or the closest equivalent), preventing him from using any parahuman power that he might have by destroying the Corona Pollentia. A sneaky telekinesis-moved bomb right next to his head might work too.
----[X] Use the tracking to get back to Lisa and kill her. Come at her like a cruise missile so she doesn't have time to disseminate info on you in retaliation.
No. of Votes: 1

Total No. of Voters: 95

In other words, in the next chapter that was already going to feature plenty of antagonism? You voted to ramp the bitchiness up to 11. Okay, then.
 
In other words, in the next chapter that was already going to feature plenty of antagonism? You voted to ramp the bitchiness up to 11. Okay, then.
if anyone here was playing Worm Fanfic/Quest Bingo, go ahead and put one on 'users are a bitch to Lisa'.
If any of you are surprised by this turn of events, you are new to the Worm fandom, and have my sympathies.
 
More like it's recognized its host is suicidally stupid and is trying to escape from the equally bitchy girl who's a walking WMD.

Taylors been shat on from a great height for the last year and a half. Now she faces another popular girl type, Lisa who promptly starts pushing her buttons.

Canon Taylor would be intimidated. However she currently is having the Calamity Witch template applied.

Lisa you identify her as someone who does not play by the rules, then antagonize her during most of the conversation?

A thinker shard making someone stupid.
 
However she currently is having the Worm Fan Character Flanderization template applied.
FTFY.
Lisa you identify her as someone who does not play by the rules, then antagonize her during most of the conversation?

A thinker shard making someone stupid.
In case you missed the vote discussion, I agree with that assessment, and so does the author. I think what Silent is trying to say though, is that we/Taylor could have been better than Lisa, and not basically been a bitch right back.
 
I think what Silent is trying to say though, is that we/Taylor could have been better than Lisa, and not basically been a bitch right back.
This is true. However, consider Taylor Hebert as she is right now. All of fifteen, spent the last year and a half under extended psychological torture from multiple vectors, and now suddenly has both an alternate set of memories/instincts from a god's honest witch, and has been given the chance to learn to wield said witch's powers.

Yeah. A brand new queen bitch strolls into Taylor's life and expects Taylor to roll over, just like before? When Taylor has been doing to damnedest to not go down to victim path of old?

No, Taylor is not going to be completely rational, nor will she be able to keep her long term goals in mind. In the heat of this moment, Taylor is damn well going to be a bitch right back, and feel good about it in the short-term... because it's such a huge change from her previous circumstances.
 
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