Magical Girl Escalation Taylor (Worm/Nanoha)
- Thread starter Silently Watches
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- Erebus
If we can spam/pilot rust shooter like we do flare, then that sorta dakka will be prime for taking out MS13's army. All of it. Solo. It wouldn't be a 'waste' and we could join the battle soon enough afterwards.
Outa curiosity. If a non-lethal Solar Wrath vaporizes the buildings the MS are in, would that take out their cover and weapons while leaving them with heat rashes? Or would they die anyway because we're busting the buildings and presumably bringing them down on their squishy heads?
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LancerisDead
Definitely not a cat
- Location
- Buenos Aires
Honestly, Recursion Field is kind of a bad idea in this situation. It's isn't like with the Empire that were holding hostages and we more or less knew who'd get pulled in.
The most it'd do is split up our forces without being clear on who would end up where and cutting communications between each team.
As it stands, I think I'm gonna pass this vote up and see where it goes.
The most it'd do is split up our forces without being clear on who would end up where and cutting communications between each team.
As it stands, I think I'm gonna pass this vote up and see where it goes.
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
- Location
- Ohio
It's the other way around: Because nobody's telling us who'd get pulled in, or arranging their forces properly, we can't use that tool.
Silently Watches
Professional Stalker
- Location
- Right behind you
There are 16 people besides you and Samantha. You can count the number of people who wouldn't get sucked in on one hand with fingers left over.
There is no appropriate arrangement of forces worth the name.
- Location
- USA
[X] Take down the minions. Your allies will be Miss Militia, Cailleach, Cinderella, Mishmash, Slo-Mo, Circus, Gush, and Shard.
-[X] Send Samantha on cape crush duty.
Showing off for Cailleach yas. Could even get lucky and have some side-interlude with her pulling "If we're working together, I need to make a show of faith...we have a mutual idiot-friend unfortunately. *mention kayleigh, remove mask etc* So we're even now *reaction to Taylor recognizing the mystery girl she danced with, remember how fun it was, blush?*"
Sugary shipping aside, I do wonder how heavily we should lean on the ?hint? at the end of chapter, that the vote here is about what characters we want to interact with and NOT a strategic thing. Is that solely because strategy vote will be next time, or because the assembled dakka is plenty sufficient and it solely is about fun-story choices?
Anyways, worth remembering that Sam is a beast of the Sword, not Shield. Our getting hit by a rocket was a bad dice roll represented by Taylor standing up in the air pewpewing and not thinking about anti-air with the giant target we made, wasn't it? Don't remember sending Sam off anywhere sepearate, but even if she has a shield spell too her role isn't really playing bodyguard to us so much as tying up opponents so we can focus. Sending her against the ABB while we went for Purity seems the closer parallel... mind you, was that considered a success? xD Lung killed the Butcher and escaped, but she did go toe-to-toe with an extra buffed Lung and manage fine (arguably she hit uncanny valley of doing too well without quite finishing him, but then neither did the big guns of the Triumvirate).
And shipping resumes! Wouldn't it be an amusing thing for us to be interacting with Cailleach , while Samantha has a chance to chat with Jotunn?
Whether its Danny facing a roguish new challenger, or their gossiping about their "kids" and teaming up with Kayleigh, theres at minimum omake-crack potential there.
-[X] Send Samantha on cape crush duty.
Showing off for Cailleach yas. Could even get lucky and have some side-interlude with her pulling "If we're working together, I need to make a show of faith...we have a mutual idiot-friend unfortunately. *mention kayleigh, remove mask etc* So we're even now *reaction to Taylor recognizing the mystery girl she danced with, remember how fun it was, blush?*"
Sugary shipping aside, I do wonder how heavily we should lean on the ?hint? at the end of chapter, that the vote here is about what characters we want to interact with and NOT a strategic thing. Is that solely because strategy vote will be next time, or because the assembled dakka is plenty sufficient and it solely is about fun-story choices?Anyways, worth remembering that Sam is a beast of the Sword, not Shield. Our getting hit by a rocket was a bad dice roll represented by Taylor standing up in the air pewpewing and not thinking about anti-air with the giant target we made, wasn't it? Don't remember sending Sam off anywhere sepearate, but even if she has a shield spell too her role isn't really playing bodyguard to us so much as tying up opponents so we can focus. Sending her against the ABB while we went for Purity seems the closer parallel... mind you, was that considered a success? xD Lung killed the Butcher and escaped, but she did go toe-to-toe with an extra buffed Lung and manage fine (arguably she hit uncanny valley of doing too well without quite finishing him, but then neither did the big guns of the Triumvirate).
And shipping resumes! Wouldn't it be an amusing thing for us to be interacting with Cailleach , while Samantha has a chance to chat with Jotunn?
Whether its Danny facing a roguish new challenger, or their gossiping about their "kids" and teaming up with Kayleigh, theres at minimum omake-crack potential there.
Eh, normal interaction sure, but I'm not inclined to cater to Kayleigh's delusions in any way. *shrug*
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
- Location
- Ohio
Last I checked, all the capes MS-13 had would get sucked in. And all they'd be left with are:
Unless Brutes' durability can somehow get worn down by constant rocket fire, I do not see an issue with even one or two Brutes being on the outside in terms of taking apart the MS-13 conventional forces. Containment is another story, but that's what the police and prt troopers are for.
I'm being straight with you here: I see no reason, other than the politics you mentioned, reapplying the strategy we used against the E88 wouldn't work. If there isn't, I'm afraid you'll have to spell it out for me.
Silently Watches
Professional Stalker
- Location
- Right behind you
Both, actually. The assembled firepower is sufficient on either side, and the strategy vote will be next time. Depending on what gets picked, you'll be spending some time with a few of the aforementioned characters, so if you have one you want to spend time with, here's your chance. Almost a preview of the social activities coming next arc.
Reason #1: MS-13 knows about it. You used Recursion Field on Cadejo almost two months ago exactly. You then showed just what it was capable of when you killed nearly all of Empire 88 with it. Do you think Cadejo didn't hear about that? Do you think he hasn't thought about what to do about it considering you're living in his city?
Reason #2:
By popular demand, a quick heads up:
Things would rapidly get interesting.
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Well then. I think that's a hint that he thought up a (likely very) effective counter to Recursion Field and that us or Sam using it would be a bad idea. Well, let's hope the city of Philly has a hefty rainy day fund on hand.
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
- Location
- Ohio
So in other words, his capes are ready to be isolated against superior numbers and strength, and his mooks are ready to tackle Brutes without any cape support. And that's something both Chevalier and Jotun have thought of, but didn't share. Taylor's used to being snubbed, but I digress.
The former is more about synergy and strategy.
The latter can come from a variety of sources. Option 1, they have Brutes beyond the one identified one lying among the mooks. Option 2, they've gotten their hands on Tinkertech or other non-conventional weapons. Option 3, they have gotten their hands on conventional weapons and explosives they think will be able to kill all but the most durable Brutes.
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I don't think it's a counter, so much as an adaptation.
Meh. Either way, it means he has an answer to it.
Silently Watches
Professional Stalker
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- Right behind you
No. You wanted an OOC reason you couldn't just cage and shoot? There you go. You got your reason and a hint besides.
As for why Chevalier wasn't basing his plan on Recursion Field when this plan is just as likely to work? Because it's not all about you. That's why.
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
- Location
- Ohio
Ah, yes, my apologies. I probably should have been able to tell you were speaking OOC.
You've established the political/get more villains working with heroes angle already, but 'just as likely to work'? Speaking strictly on In-Character information as I understand it,
1. Chevalier says his plan is going to work.
2. We're going up against an enemy which he's never been able to beat before.
3. Both him and the enemy have additional capes.
At best, he's being legit about this being the necessary amount of forces to capture an intangible pack of dogs and his buddies. At worst, we're following Wil. E. Chevalier.
Well, to be fair to him, neither have we. *shrug*
Ehhh, I'm going to give him more credit than that. He's been in the cape scene for longer than we've been alive IIRC, and knows what he is doing.
Archeo Lumiere
The Prince's Archivist
- Location
- Lumiose City, Kalos
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- He/Him/They/Them
How about that chick that manipulates senses in enclosed spaces. What if Recursion Field is an enclosed space?
Silently Watches
Professional Stalker
- Location
- Right behind you
Multiple Protectorate Thinkers have heard his plan. They give it a high likelihood of succeeding. Other plans, including aerial bombardment were either worse or roughly equal considering what information is known and what isn't.
*insert Skitter's catchphrase here*
*No, not "copacetic". The other one.*
*No, not "BEEEEEES!" either.*
Right now, the anti-cape team has enough to handle the two reinforcements. Most likely.
I think the cape who was chosen to succeed Legend as the leader of the whole damn Protectorate deserves a little more faith than that.
EDIT: Imp'd by landcollector.
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
- Location
- Ohio
And that's the other half of the source of all this. Call it the grand return of the paranoia punch, but I can't shake the feeling of 'if it sounds too good to be true.'
Silently Watches
Professional Stalker
- Location
- Right behind you
IC, the Think Tank can't say definitively that everything will be just fine. They know they aren't 100% accurate, but their damn good at what they do.
- Location
- USA
Yeah, I'm not too inclined to argue against a heavy-strength WoG about our allies plans in a setting full of precogs xD Maybe if we'd signed up as PRT members and weren't sitting in front of gangs they'd tell us more, or heeeey maybe we can bring this up ICly while interacting with Miss Militia?
Please don't be cruel to Laura simply to spite Kayleigh. Does that really seem like an appropriate way for Taylor to decide such an issue? Anyways "Delusion" is awfully strong to describe the situation without evidence for why its implausible, "Misbehaviour" would've been fine. Even if I would've hoped that sticking around a battlefield as people died around her, just to try and make sure she found us safely and didn't leave us without an escape-ride, would get her a little more credit as far as loyalty and "best interests, in her mind" goes.
Please don't be cruel to Laura simply to spite Kayleigh. Does that really seem like an appropriate way for Taylor to decide such an issue? Anyways "Delusion" is awfully strong to describe the situation without evidence for why its implausible, "Misbehaviour" would've been fine. Even if I would've hoped that sticking around a battlefield as people died around her, just to try and make sure she found us safely and didn't leave us without an escape-ride, would get her a little more credit as far as loyalty and "best interests, in her mind" goes.
I am rather confused as to how you got cruel intent out of the words "normal interaction".
- Location
- Ural, Russia, Earth
Can't think about any way to deal with the field, except maybe kinda Bakuda way.
Have gangsters with heavy weaponry hiding around the city's important spots.
Order them to unleash the hell if you didn't call at certain times.
When Calamity put up the Recursion field, warn her what would happen if she doesn't drop it immediately.
Do we even have Brutes who both are capable to withstand rocket fire and will not be sucked into the Recursion field?
