Always Late
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Well, Lethal Solar Wrath is going to be less 'heads' and more 'everything'.
Magical Girl Escalation Taylor (Worm/Nanoha)
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Silently Watches
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My apologies.
EDIT: If you want to start your attack with one of those four locations in particular, now would be a good time to say so. If not, the group will start with the one that THEY think makes the most sense (which may or may not be where the Empire is hiding).
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Firedon
Lazy Sleepy Cat
- Location
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It's kind of implied by the name, but I can't actually find the part that says make it lethal.
Always Late
Lacking in coffee, sleep, and brains
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The point of Plan Decapitation is to not waste time by hitting one at a time, but hit them all at once. At least, all at once with Recursion Field. After that, we can just sit up on high and bombard stuff. What goes on outside RF is not on us, and our only limit on the bombardment is mana.
Lethal spell use I am presuming will be part of the vote in the next update.
Unless, @Silently Watches, is this the point to specify lethal spell use?
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Finally I caught up
[X]Plan Decapitation
[X] Break the door down – The assembled Avengers capes go all-out attacking every possible location in order from most to least likely in a single large group. Brings the most force to the fight, slowest way to search the town, easiest to see and track and thereby counterattack.
-[X]You will catch all four points in Recursion Field, separating the E88 capes from their hostages and unpowered mooks.
--[X]You will them blow them away from outside their range to retaliate.
---[X]Anyone who wants to join you should probably be at least capable of flying.
--[X]Breakers, Strikers, Blasters, Shakers, Changers, Trumps, certain Masters and Strangers, regenerators, teleporters, and pre-cogs are affected by RF, so anyone meeting that criteria and wanting to focus on civilians will need to remain back.
---[X]The only E88 capes left outside will likely be Cricket and Victor.
[X]Plan Decapitation
[X] Break the door down – The assembled Avengers capes go all-out attacking every possible location in order from most to least likely in a single large group. Brings the most force to the fight, slowest way to search the town, easiest to see and track and thereby counterattack.
-[X]You will catch all four points in Recursion Field, separating the E88 capes from their hostages and unpowered mooks.
--[X]You will them blow them away from outside their range to retaliate.
---[X]Anyone who wants to join you should probably be at least capable of flying.
--[X]Breakers, Strikers, Blasters, Shakers, Changers, Trumps, certain Masters and Strangers, regenerators, teleporters, and pre-cogs are affected by RF, so anyone meeting that criteria and wanting to focus on civilians will need to remain back.
---[X]The only E88 capes left outside will likely be Cricket and Victor.
Actually, is there a point to lethal except for maybe Hookwolf?
The Recursioned group generally lacks much durability.
Silently Watches
Professional Stalker
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Since you're already coming up with a complex plan, now would be the time to specify if your opening salvo to be lethal. Depending on how this plan goes, the fight against the Empire may not need another update.
- Location
- Pittsburgh PA
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- He/Him
[X]Plan Decapitation
- Location
- Tarn-Vedra
[X]Plan Decapitation.
Firedon
Lazy Sleepy Cat
- Location
- Germany
[X]Plan Decapitation
@Always Late
Please actually tag the people voting for your plan to inform them about that change to lethal.
@Always Late
Please actually tag the people voting for your plan to inform them about that change to lethal.
Always Late
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My experience in observing or using mass-tagging has resulted in very few people actually responding or acknowledging (via likes) what's been posted, whether its calling people to reconsider new information or edits to a pre-existing plan. So please understand why I am skeptical of the effectiveness of such measures. That some people unfortunately don't keep abreast of the conversation or discuss possible edits is not my responsibility. Additionally, if there are people who voted for a plan without reading it, they don't have much ground to complain if they get buyers remorse.
Look at it this way: If when votes are tallied there's a general outcry of people not wanting to kill confirmed Ziz-bombed Neo-Nazis, then I'm in for some sort of punishment and SW will remedy the situation, probably by removing the lethal use or holding a second vote on whether or not to use lethal force. Justice will be served, the error will be remedied. If there is no problem, then there is no problem.
The QM's stated repeatedly that we must include lethal spell use in the vote for it to happen. That would imply that Taylor is willing to at least do the deed. Additionally, in answering my question on whether or not I'd need to specify lethal spell use at this time, SW did not make any comments about Taylor's unwillingness to kill. Given the QM's fairly detailed track record of talking with us about what parts of a plan will or will not work, especially with Purity and @KhazintheDark last update, I am fairly confident that Taylor will not freeze up, pull her shots, or otherwise have problems killing the E88.
Kinruush
Who?
- Location
- USA
I'll second this and add that I feel there is sufficient basis in-story for Taylor to pursue the lethal option without choking. Between her fight with Ziz, her general knowledge of Kaiser and the E88, and the E88's actions since escaping Brockton, there's more than enough reason for her to think lethality is a sensible solution. From Cadejo she learned how dangerous a villain can be if you aren't willing to do whatever is necessary to stop them. She hasn't used lethal force before, but she's ready to, and though most of the E88 aren't that much of a threat to her, personally, that isn't something she can depend on, and they are certainly to many of her allies her.
- Location
- Ural, Russia, Earth
She's planning to hit them with basically beam of fire.
Those who will be lucky enough to find themselves in epicenter die fast and turn into ashes.
Those who will not... They will scream while their flesh will melt and burn.
I'm sure Taylor is ready to kill them.
I'm not sure she is ready to see consequences.
...Well, at least her Dad and Sam just one teleport away...
Maybe. The E88 contingent includes guys that can make your own gear stab you with swords from the inside, and someone that can turn into a blender-wolf that will kill you in various agonizing ways. We do not have a monopoly on painful death capabilities.
Always Late
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You are quite correct in that any 'near-misses' will be very horrific to see. However, remember that Taylor will be bombarding the locations from, as I specified 'outside their range to retaliate'. Think Strategic Bombing. I do not think she will be close enough to hear people screaming or smell cooked flesh until she's done turning the dimensional copy of the town to ash.
And as for people being ready to comfort her, remember that Perfect Storm's been subtly moulding Taylor's mind as well. Letting her collapse into guilt or suffer severe PTSD is likley contrary to its needed state for Taylor to be in. Between her familial support network and PS's grooming, I believe Taylor will be able to face the consequences of her actions without breaking.
That too. 'Kill them before they will kill me' is one hell of a justifier.
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- Ural, Russia, Earth
I have suspicion that these phrases contradict each other.
But, okay.
Let's roast them.
Nazi gives innumerable prayers to Heaven for salvation. Heaven replies with nothing but fire to recompense Nazi. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill.
Firedon
Lazy Sleepy Cat
- Location
- Germany
While you asked about the right time for writing in lethal use, you didn't actually discuss or mention that you had changed the plan to lethal at all. So it's less that people didn't read the plan, and more that people might not know the plan they read changed because there wasn't a clear indicator.
Always Late
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- Ohio
1. If Taylor just sat up above the E88 capes and stared at them, eventually they'd figure out a way to hit her. Monkeys with typewriters principle.
2. It's more intent and precedence. They've demonstrated motives and actions of murder past and present, are likley Ziz-bombs, and have broken containment. So they will not fight Taylor or anyone else with anything less than lethal force, and nothing physical of value is lost by killing them.
I specify 'physical' because Taylor having killed people is nothing to trivialize, so there is something being lost here. I have merely concluded, and I do not think I am alone in this, that putting the E88 back in the containment zone will lead to more problems down the line.
If someone see lots of 'Plan X' being voted for, and they do not go and see what the plain entails before entering their own vote for 'Plan X', then it's not my problem. Any votes that occurred after SW's comment on lethal force being required at this time falls under this principle. Votes before that fall under the 'does mass tagging really work' question.
Silently Watches
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All four of these are at least mostly right. Should Taylor go lethal, she will consider the options and decide that this is a situation where offering her enemies mercy and the benefit of the doubt will likely only cause more people to be hurt in the future. These Nazis, particularly Hookwolf's trio and Kaiser as their boss, have shown repeatedly that they feel no respect for human life and no remorse for their crimes. It's not hard to justify killing them. The aftermath, the knowledge that she had the power of life and death and chose to end another person's life, will weigh on her, but she knows Samantha would not judge her too harshly, and considering her Danny and the Privateers' preparations, she doesn't expect any criticisms from that quarter, either.