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Magical Girl Escalation Taylor (Worm/Nanoha)

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Wyrd said:
Great update :)



Any and all Devices come with Barrier Jacket(or the upgrade, Knight Armor), free of charge. Recruit the Momenator, give her some prosthetic fingers...

I know it wouldn't be that easy. Leaving an abusive spouse is never easy, regardless of whether the abuse is physical, emotional, or even just social, as controlling people are good at, well, controlling people.
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There's a part of me that wants her starter spell to be Mage Hand.
 
In any case, I'm pretty thankful that giving Laura an Armed Device won. I had forgotten that Jotunn was a Brute. Plus she is powerful enough to cross-specialize, so if needed she can learn a ranged attack or two eventually.
 
ReaperofInterest said:
In any case, I'm pretty thankful that giving Laura an Armed Device won. I had forgotten that Jotunn was a Brute. Plus she is powerful enough to cross-specialize, so if needed she can learn a ranged attack or two eventually.
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Jotunn was exactly why I voted for Armed Device. I want her to be able to stand up to her father, and felt that that is something she would want as well. He's also a changer, but it's the Brute rating that calls for better defense.
 
Silently Watches said:
A small sound almost like a sniff came from the other end of the line, and Laura's heart twisted in her chest when she realized how her last comment must have sounded. "I just want us to share something," Kayleigh whispered. ....... I'd be standing on the sidelines where I couldn't help either of you. Just because I'm not a cape doesn't mean I don't want to stand right there beside you."
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This is why I was worried about her having a notably weaker core than the others :cry::cry: Or even just being on the B-Team with her powerset. Now I reaaalllly wanna insist our gunbunny run with the big girls.

Silently Watches said:
It took a few minutes to convince Kayleigh to go back to figuring out her new name, and Laura sighed and shook her head. She was not foolish enough to try predicting what Kayleigh would come up next, but surely it could not be any worse than 'Lady Sureshot'.
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:rofl::lol::rofl::lol: Perhaps the best vote of that whole process?

Silently Watches said:
Her eyes moved to her mother's right hand, and even though it was out of sight she could clearly picture what it looked like. The middle three fingers all chopped off bit by bit to the second knuckle and the ends burned shut with a lighter pulled out of a biker's pocket.
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...... So, at our next opportunity we shove a syringe upside Epoch and set Tim to working on a regenerative one-shot serum? Unless she's more like Missy and wants a prosthetic taser-hand for better slapping of abusers...

Whether or not we recruit her with a Boost device to play "Team Mom" with Lacey and her Tome beast or not, this might be my new #1 vote priority >_> Doing something about this once Taylor gets the least whiff of it (maybe leaked by Kayleigh).

Taylor might have written her father off as an unfixable ball of potential angst, but thats all the more reason she'd double down on helping a friends Parent when there is actually a clear way to fix them AND a relationship a little more positive than the fight over aliens left things.
 
@Racoras
Danny is only 'written off' if people are unwilling to vote for the Daddy's Little Girl option.

And I don't know why people constantly write off the Daddy's Little Girl questline as nothing but a angst fest when the QM has repeatedly stated it is not.

People are just assuming there's nothing that can help with the situation without even looking in on things in the first place. Not to mention @Silently Watches has already stated that ignoring it is a very bad idea.
 
aceraptor said:
@Racoras
Danny is only 'written off' if people are unwilling to vote for the Daddy's Little Girl option.

And I don't know why people constantly write off the Daddy's Little Girl questline as nothing but a angst fest when the QM has repeatedly stated it is not.

People are just assuming there's nothing that can help with the situation without even looking in on things in the first place. Not to mention @Silently Watches has already stated that ignoring it is a very bad idea.
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I'm personally concerned that getting back in with Danny and repairing things with him will just end up constraining and crippling us. Like... Yes, it's possible we could reach and equilibrium with Danny, but unless SW's Danny has developed in some very unusual ways, rekindling his and Taylor's relationship will never be good in the long run because he will just attempt to constrain and curtail us in the name of safety. That or provide an easy target for our enemies.
 
aceraptor said:
Danny is only 'written off' if people are unwilling to vote for the Daddy's Little Girl option.

And I don't know why people constantly write off the Daddy's Little Girl questline as nothing but a angst fest when the QM has repeatedly stated it is not.
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I'm referring to it with the in-character mindset i'm essentially voting for everytime i vote Not-DLG. Taylor doesn't know a QM has story in mind, while "written off" is pretty plausible for someone prone to avoidance as a social survival strategy.
 
Overlord_lopaka said:
That's the point thou. They stay because they are to afraid to leave. They normally don't suggest leaving on there own so why would they tell someone else to leave.
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Fear oversimplifies the matter. Hell, she might well resist being taken away from that. Its not unknown for domestic abuse cases.

And not to mention she might actually love him regardless.
Its not exactly a rational emotion
 
Overlord_lopaka said:
That's the point thou. They stay because they are to afraid to leave. They normally don't suggest leaving on there own so why would they tell someone else to leave.
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There are a number of factors that go into keeping somebody in a loveless marriage, with an abusive spouse, with all kinds of things that an outsider can look at and say "Why not leave?" The answer is usually complicated. Wanting her daughter to escape while not trying to escape herself is sadly quite common. Unfortunately, discussing this in depth would require a titanic derail of the thread, but I think you missed the point SW was making, that people* in abusive relationships often stay even when they should go.**

* Men get abused too, even if it is less common. Those men trapped in abusive relationships have it harder in some ways because, unlike for women and children, there isn't a support system built for them. Worse still, trying to get help is more likely to lead to the man being mocked than helped. It's horrible whoever it happens to.
**Should I stay or should I go now...
 
Wyrd said:
* Men get abused too, even if it is less common.
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It's not, just ask Australia's crime stats bureau.
Spectral Waltz said:
I'm personally concerned that getting back in with Danny and repairing things with him will just end up constraining and crippling us. Like... Yes, it's possible we could reach and equilibrium with Danny, but unless SW's Danny has developed in some very unusual ways, rekindling his and Taylor's relationship will never be good in the long run because he will just attempt to constrain and curtail us in the name of safety. That or provide an easy target for our enemies.
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Nah, I can give you a simple 7 step plan.
1) buy Physical heal for Tim
2) mix a regeneration Mutagen specially targeted to nerve regeneration.
3) Inject Danny.
4) Mix up a Linker Core mutagen
5) inject Danny again.
6) Give him a device to burn out his shard power.
7) profit.
Between neural regeneration and removing the brain worm, his memories should come back. With the Linker Core we can give him some decent powers. He's now at least as useful as Kayliegh and given his background is unlikely to go into combat, so he'll probably end up helping us at Tim's side.
 
Byakugan said:
Between neural regeneration and removing the brain worm, his memories should come back
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I'm going to disagree with you here, his memories could come back, but I would lay better than even odds that they wouldn't and then where are we left.

That's assuming the lanker core mutagen doesn't duck shit up, not to mention, unlike Mossy, he has no way to actually give informed consent.
 
Byakugan said:
It's not, just ask Australia's crime stats bureau.

Nah, I can give you a simple 7 step plan.
1) buy Physical heal for Tim
2) mix a regeneration Mutagen specially targeted to nerve regeneration.
3) Inject Danny.
4) Mix up a Linker Core mutagen
5) inject Danny again.
6) Give him a device to burn out his shard power.
7) profit.
Between neural regeneration and removing the brain worm, his memories should come back. With the Linker Core we can give him some decent powers. He's now at least as useful as Kayliegh and given his background is unlikely to go into combat, so he'll probably end up helping us at Tim's side.
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Uh dude.

His natural brainmeats are blank.
His brainworm has his memories, because it keeps a backup, but it won't release those because delicious conflict.
His brainworm just blocks forming new ones.
 
Rajvik_wolfboy said:
I would lay better than even odds that they wouldn't and then where are we left.
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With a new character nobody has biased objections to sporting a linker core and supporter personality?
Rajvik_wolfboy said:
That's assuming the lanker core mutagen doesn't duck shit up, not to mention, unlike Mossy, he has no way to actually give informed consent.
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Eh, that could happen, I suppose, but the dozen or so social points we have for dad and a prior mutation should slam that to the bottom of the probability ladder.

Also, it's not like he's an invalid, he just can't remember the last 10 years. He can totally give informed consent.
 
Byakugan said:
Eh, that could happen, I suppose, but the dozen or so social points we have for dad and a prior mutation should slam that to the bottom of the probability ladder.
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I haven't assigned Danny any social points. He was crippled before that became a thing. Not to mention, aside from the initial scanning, I don't think anyone ever proposed to actually social him. He showed up, but only when I thought he should, which as with Kayleigh doesn't grant any social points.
 
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If you want to fix Danny so bad, you need either Cranial from Toybox or someone with the Healer template. Removing his powers is not gonna fix his brain damage.

In fact QA is probably screaming at said brain damage, because it makes Danny just stay in and not go out and fight other Capes. And no matter how hard she pushes Danny to go out and fight, he doesn't remember the next day.
 
Huh... I see. shrug given most of these complainers antipathy towards him, that doesn't really change much.
Pinklestia said:
If you want to fix Danny so bad, you need either Cranial from Toybox or someone with the Healer template. Removing his powers is not gonna fix his brain damage.
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My plan already covered both concerns.
QA is holding back his memories so burn her out with a device and brain damage should be reparable by magic regeneration which mutagen serum under physical heal should do if maybe needing a few more slots than normal.
 
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FictionPack said:
Please don't act like you know exactly what is needed and is possible in this quest.
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Maybe I don't, but the only two reasonable and in character choices Taylor would make to try to fix Danny are either magic or Parahuman healing. Cranial is one of the few know Parahumans that deals with brains and memories whose services are for sale and who is not that hard for Taylor to hire if she gets enough money. And the Healer template is the best we will get in healing magic unless we go hunting for magical alien healers and we get really lucky.
 
Silently Watches said:
"Cape powers are weird. Did you know there are capes whose only powers are to shut down other capes' powers? Some of them can do it permanently. There's a cape known as Slender out on the West Coast who is known to target villains. One touch, and their powers are gone forever."
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I see what you did the-

Silently Watches said:
I don't know how obvious it is, but Slender is based off Seraviel's story Manager.
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... nevermind.

*steeples fingers sheepishly*

Honestly, I can see the situation with Laura's father going quite a few different ways. Ultimately, it depends on what kind of man he is, where it counts. So far, I haven't really seen enough to comfortably make a good assessment of his nature. Is he a good man? Almost certainly not. But is he a good father? To me, that remains to be seen. Worm canon isn't exactly blessed with an abundance of decent parents (in part due to an unreliable narrator with more issues than Cosmopolitan). It could, after all, be argued that Laura's father forced her to join Winter Hill out of a desperate desire to keep her safe and close after what happened to her and her mother, given what can easily happen to young newly triggered Parahumans with more power than sense. On the other hand, there's not really such a thing as a useless Parahuman power in Worm, just poorly used powers, and it could be that he stopped thinking of Laura as his daughter and instead as a minion to keep under control and booster the Parahuman power at his disposal.

But I find myself doubting the latter. Call it a hunch, but ... it takes a very particular sort of man that could make that sort of a cold blooded decision about one of his own children without regretting it.

... Then again, his wife does seem to be more afraid of him than in love with him. Which makes me wonder, just what did he do to scare her that much? And does it eat at something his soul every time he sees the fear in her eyes? Does it twist his guts with the sort of miserable, wrenching nausea that makes his hands shake when no one's watching, tearing him up inside so much that if he dared let it out, even for a moment, he might not ever get it buried back down ever again?

Which reminds me, as someone who's personally 'enjoyed' a few severe hand injuries, OUCH.
 
Or people. How about something a lot more simpler than trying to come up with options.

How about we actually take the questline to see what @Silently Watches has for us and *then* talk about the solutions?

Because right now we are doing nothing but talking in circles and groping in the dark about solutions to Danny's problem. Its patently obvious that the Daddy's Little Girl questline is going to provide a better view of the situation.

So. Lets take the quest next vote.
 
Pinklestia said:
If you want to fix Danny so bad, you need either Cranial from Toybox or someone with the Healer template. Removing his powers is not gonna fix his brain damage.
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SW has a plan for this and it's a multi-part quest, so part 2 might just be "Go get Cranial to help out" but probably not, it'll probably be something else.

aceraptor said:
How about we actually take the questline to see what @Silently Watches has for us and *then* talk about the solutions?
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I really was tempted, but starting Bone of the Father and then jumping to another quest part way seemed like a bad idea. Best to finish the quest we started before taking a new one or we end up with 4 quests all at Step 2.
 
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