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Lords of Darkness (WHF CK2-Ish Quest)

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avatar11792 said:
Im not that familiar w warhammer undead, just speculation. A living rider on a tireless undead horse would confer the same benefits.
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Well, an undead steed could ride without stopping all day. An undead steed with an undead rider could ride without stopping, period.

Marginal gains unless we grow larger though, since the rider needs to be intelligent and intelligent undead aren't THAT cheap.
 
Derek58 said:
Hm, I didn't see any indication that he was revived after he was killed, which was centuries before the current time, when I looked him up on Lexicanum, so hopefully we won't have to deal with a hostile vampire yet.
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killed the first or the second time? his tomb was lost in the bogs and he came back at least once.

It's also the biggest reason why we kinda don't want to invite other vampires round till we have mastered light, dark and true dhar magic (both shadow and light for the mind stuf in addition to the teleport and SPEED OF LIGHT and True dhar so that they can't just usurp our undead army...)


Negation said:
Huh. The Orphan Hills may actually be a good place to develop.
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yeah, though that keep is kind of worrying. rare and powerful herbs don't just grow in places with no metaphorical weight and the fact that it's still that powerful despite nobody really knowing anything about it... (well the rumours and made up ghost stories would power it up somewhat but still)
 
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emberwing said:
killed the first or the second time? his tomb was lost in the bogs and he came back at least once.

It's also the biggest reason why we kinda don't want to invite other vampires round till we have mastered light, dark and true dhar magic (both shadow and light for the mind stuf in addition to the teleport and SPEED OF LIGHT and True dhar so that they can't just usurp our undead army...)
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Hmm, I also checked the wiki that Negation linked to, but don't see anything about Merovech reviving after he was killed the first time.
 
Derek58 said:
Hmm, I also checked the wiki that Negation linked to, but don't see anything about Merovech reviving after he was killed the first time.
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Though widely vilified and despised, many notable knights and families owed Merovech for saving them from the Skaven armies. After his death they banded together and in spite of the new King's wishes, built a mighty tomb for the dead Duke. The huge stone mausoleum, the size of a small keep, was constructed near the centre of Mousillon. After many centuries his tomb sunk into the marshes of Mousillon and was thought lost forever. Many a Questing Knight set out to find the tomb, but none ever succeeded.[2]

Revenge
"Tonight is the dawning of a new era in Mousillon's history. Once, our realm was the most powerful in all Bretonnia. Now we have a chance to reclaim that glory, you and I."—Merovech, Dark Lord of Mousillon.[1]
The corrupted Heraldry of Mousillon.

Centuries passed before Merovech rose from his tomb, revealing himself to have been a powerful vampire. Restored to full potency, he towered over mortal men and moved with unnatural precision, as if his armour was a second skin. The armour he donned was of an archaic, old fashioned style, fluted and with serrated barbs at its edges. It was of such dark steel that it was almost black, and was completed by a helmet that had been forged to resemble a snarling Dragon. The Vampire never carried a shield, but bore a pair of unholy blades strapped at his side, encrusted with dark runes. He bore no Heraldry other than a simple black fleur-de-lys, the ancient symbol of Mousillon.

Yeah, he was killed after he became king, they built a tomb, wait let me rephrase that a "TOMB" the size of a small keep, said tomb vanished into the marshes and then he revived centuries later.

Like most things in bretonia, mousillion is just memey, they've had a cannibal ghoul duke, a bloodthirsty vampire duke, another vampire this time a blood dragon duke, maldred the false grail knight who kidnapped the fey enchantress and a depressed lancelot ripoff,
 
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avatar11792 said:
Im not that familiar w warhammer undead, just speculation. A living rider on a tireless undead horse would confer the same benefits.
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The living rider on an undead horse is feasable, we just have to get the people to trust that the hoese wont collaspe while being ridden.
veekie said:
Well, an undead steed could ride without stopping all day. An undead steed with an undead rider could ride without stopping, period.

Marginal gains unless we grow larger though, since the rider needs to be intelligent and intelligent undead aren't THAT cheap.
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This was my major concern when the couier network was selcted for an option.

Wights were once lords /kings of old who are then often resurrected to lead a necromancers/vampires army because of how hard it is to kill them.

And while a message system that is difficult to tamper with is good, I just dont see the value in using hero units to deliver mail and documents for the majority of there time.
 
Alucard vampiry said:
Okay so l did a new goggle docs (this is really useful) where l will put any type of ideas suggested by you guys. Link To The List.
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I also have some new ideas:

Martial:
-Shallow Graves: Bury your undead in advance and have them rise behind your enemies' backs.
DC ???
Rewards: +5 Bonus to all Undead if you had time to prepare the Battlefield.

-Wet Graves: Few would expect your undead to rise from their coasts.
(Requires Undead with enough Strength to travel the ocean floor, at least along the Coasts - others might just swim)
DC ???
Rewards: Certain Undead Infantry needs to no ships to be deployed in coastal engagements.

-Sunken Ships: Undead need no air and can thus travel beneath the waves. (Requires Wet Graves)
DC ???
Rewards: Undead (Non-Pressurized) Submarines - Undead Infantry needs no ships to be deployed, period (paddle-driven submarines are CHEAP but SLOW).


Learning:
-Corpse Poison: The rotten blood of the dead can easily slay the living (i.e. Botulinum toxin - Wikipedia )
DC ???
Rewards: +5 Bonus to Intelligent Undead, Living Assassins and Living Crossbow Troops (enemy units suffer more casualties when retreating).

-Caltrop Nets: Drop caltrops far ahead of your ground troops by making good use of trained beasts and more intelligent flying undead. (Requires Caltrops)
DC ???
Rewards: +5 Bonus to Intelligent Flying Undead (Except Ghosts) and Trainable Flying Beasts.

-Leather-Winged Spies:
DC ???
Strengthen your bond to your Beasts until you can see through their Eyes. (May require Amber Magic (Lore of Beasts))
 
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Lits stick to mastering what magic we have 1st. Light has more utility given the enemies usually found here, Vampire Necromancy to fill up our troop numbers & Shadow to build traps in the Rose.
 
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    • Brettonia:

    - Conflict at The Errantry: It has been recently revealed that the duke of Bordelux has been having an affair with the duke of Aquitaine's wife and worse of all has impregnated, after the duke Aquitaine discussion with him, there have been hostilities between the two and conflict is inevitable.

    - The Defense and Attack: Brettonia has not seen much success in the four-way war between then them the norscans, the orks, and the beastmen, hundreds of thousands are already dead and more shall die as the conflict carries on.

    - Norscan Invasion: The norscans are no longer simply raiding as full invasion force landed on the coasts of Lyonesse, their leader is a complete unknown but he must be very powerful to arrange such an invasion, his banner seems to be the same one of the forces besieging the island castle of Lyonesse.

    - Orcs Advance: The orcs of both the massif orcal have invaded and conquered parts of Quenelles a force has been dispatched to reclaim the lost territories at all costs, several grail knights accompany them.

    - Orcs and Giants: The orcs of Carcassonne who previously lived at the Irrana Mountains have revealed one of their hidden weapons in a recent battle against a force of the dukedom, hundreds of giants completely destroyed the army and would have likely killed more as the greenskins advanced, fortunately, the green knight along with several grail knights arrived and killed the vile beasts, it is unknown how the orcs managed to gain such quantity of giants and many nobles fear that they very likely have more.

    - Beastmen Grow in Strength: The beastmen herd continues to grow at an alarming rate, minotaurs and other types of strong beastmen are becoming such a common sight that grail knights are permanently attached to every single army group. There have been reports of Beastmen magicians.

    Empires of Man:

    - Second Vampire War: The second vampire continues as the forces of Konrad Von Carstein fight against the combined forces of the empires, much knowledge was gained of how to fight the undead and are used to fight against them.

    - Return of The Wolf Emperor: The wolf emperor Siegfried III of Middenland which have been recently silent for much of the decades since after his succession towards the throne of Middenland since the first vampire war has returned in full force, allying with the other emperors to deal with Konrad Von Carstein.
     
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    • GM note: I give thanks to @avatar11792 and @Rakaziel for giving ideas that were implemented in this update, you guys are awesome.

    The Year is 2058 By The Imperial Calendar

    You are Aleksander Von Carstein, and you are happy with your current situation, the world major powers do not, yet, know of your existence and with this continue your project to transform Mousillon into a seat of power. There have been reports of your spies in the empires about the personality and power of the current leader of your lineage.

    Konrad Von Carstein is completely insane by both mortal and vampire standards and also has no magical talent in necromancy which means that he depends on his necromancers but he is a great combatant even causing thousands of casualties every time he makes an appearance on the battlefield. But even with this, it is clear he is no good leader.

    But enough with the matters of the greater parts of the world, you have a duchy to rule.

    Choose 3

    [] Gather The Undead of Mousillon: While you have gathered thousands of undead there are still thousands more out there in the darkness of Mousillon, and as its ruler, it is only natural for they serve you in death while they could not in life. DC 30
    Cost: 0
    Time: 1 Turn
    Rewards: Gains New Undead

    [] Gather The Beasts of Mousillon: Mousillon not only holds undead, dark beasts such as direwolves, vargheists, ghouls, and many more inhabit the shadowlands of Mousillon. DC 35
    Cost: 0
    Time: 1 Turn
    Rewards: Gains Beast Army

    [] Build Ghost Fence: A ghost fence is a barrier with little physical substance - merely a series of poles or posts upon which are hung accursed fetishes and totems to which Daemonic and Undead spirits have been bound with forbidden spells. Only a brave or foolish warrior crosses a ghost fence without good cause - or without powerful protective wards. DC 45
    Cost: 1,500
    Time: 2 Turns
    Rewards: The Rose gains a +15 bonus to defense rolls.

    [] Plant Sinister Corpse: An effect of the necromancy the trees seem to crave blood. There are many tales of how a hut built too close to a corpse was discovered to have tree roots boring into the bodies of the unfortunates sleeping within. These trees can grow particularly anywhere as long as they have magic to sustain themselves, they also attract dark beasts which serve the forces of undead. DC 43
    Cost: 1,000
    Time: 1 Turn
    Rewards: Can now recruit: Fell Bats, Direwolves

    [] Build Defiled Cairn: Technically is not really defiled but whatever, defiled cairns is where the cannibalistic creatures are known as ghouls spawn, the process of transformation is a heinous affair with bones breaking and then reforming back in a new shape, the flesh starts turning green and ugly along with dozens of other changes, their claws also possess some kind of mix between a poison and a virus any living thing which takes the slightest marks will transform into a ghoul no matter how long it takes. There is no cure to this effect. DC 38
    Cost: 2,000
    Time: 1 Turn
    Rewards: Can Now Recruit: Crypt Ghouls

    [] Recruit Undead (Write-in number): The undead of Mousillon takes residence in the buildings you recently build inside your underground complex providing new recruits for your army. DC 0
    Costs: Skeletons 30 gold; Zombies 10 gold; Grave Guard 750 gold
    Time: 1 Turn
    Rewards: Recruit new undead.

    [] (Living) Barracks: If you want to turn your living forces into proper soldiers they will need a place to stay and training while not proper training fields it is a step towards that direction. DC 10
    Cost: 100
    Rewards: Civilians and (Living) Military Happy. New Recruitment Options.

    [] Border Fortifications, Patrols: We need to fortify Mousillon's borders properly or restore what is there. This would include establishing patrols and building sentry towers inside our lands as well. DC 15
    Cost: 500
    Time: 1 Turn
    Rewards: Border Fortifications build, patrols added in them.
    Warning: Chance of discovery by Brettonia.

    [] Shallow Graves: Bury your undead in advance and have them rise behind your enemies' backs. DC 10
    Rewards: +5 Bonus to all Undead if you had time to prepare the Battlefield.

    Choose 2

    [] Show your true nature to the humans: While certainly not a good idea whatsoever you can't keep your true nature a secret forever. DC 10
    Cost: 0
    Time: 1 Turn
    Rewards: Humans of Mousillon now know that you are a vampire.

    [X] Start a propaganda campaign: Start a propaganda campaign to favor of vampires and magicians in a better light. DC 25
    Cost: 50
    Time: 1 Turn
    Rewards: Humans now see vampires and magicians in a better perspective.

    [] Trained Diplomats: Always better to have full-time professionals in charge of this than the ones who won their position by bribes or favors. DC 15
    Cost: 50
    Time: 3 Turns
    Rewards: +10 bonus to diplomatic actions ('Show Your True Nature To Humans' will not receive the bonus as they won't know it).

    [] Diplomatic Staff: A full-time diplomatic staff to help run diplomatic operations is a good idea. DC 15
    Cost: 100
    Time: 2 Turns
    Rewards: +10 Bonus diplomatic actions ('Show Your True Nature To Humans' will not receive the bonus as they won't know it).

    Choose 3

    [] Expand Farms: Expanding the farms would give you gold to fuel your projects and your peasant's food to feed themselves. DC 20
    Cost: 500
    Time: 1 Turn
    Rewards: +200 Income. +100 Food Income

    [] Roads: Rebuilding the roads would allow the better movement of both your civilians and military forces both living and undead. DC 20
    Cost: 120
    Time: 1 Turn
    Rewards: Faster movement of both civilians and military forces. Settlements connected

    [] Build Schools: Your peasants are currently illiterate and uneducated certifying that will prove a certain improvement to the peasant lives. DC 25
    Cost: 150
    Time: 2 Turns
    Rewards: Population happy and educated.

    [] Build Sewers: Building sewers will not only improve the health of your peasants but also reducing the chance of diseases spreading. DC 35
    Cost: 200
    Time: 1 Turn
    Rewards: Fewer chances of plagues and diseases spreading. Possible Rat problem.

    [] The Underground: You build your capital deep underground surely there must be some mineral veins down there. DC 10
    Cost: 0
    Time: 1 Turn
    Rewards: Mineral Survey of your portion of the underground.

    [] Iron Mines: Constructing mines to extract the iron recently found, it would give you many new options to arm your military forces. DC 10
    Cost: 1,000
    Time: 1 Turn
    Rewards: Gains +150 Income. New Stewardship, Martial, and Learning actions.

    [] Gold Mines: Constructing gold mines would give a large amount of gold to both your peasants and yourself. DC 10
    Cost: 1,000
    Time: 1 Turn
    Rewards: Gain +200 Income.

    Choose 3

    [] Steal Technology (Brettonia): Your, future, enemies have a clear technological edge against you while you have magic, this cannot guarantee certain victory stealing the technology of the Brettonians may put you on equal grounds in terms of technology. DC 35
    Cost: 0
    Time: 1 Turn
    Rewards: Depends on Roll

    [] Steal Technology (Empires of Man): The empires possess are one of the more technological advances only behind the dwarves for how good they are in terms of technology. DC 49
    Cost: 0
    Time: 1 Turn
    Rewards: Depends on Roll

    [] Incite Rebellions: Your spies have reported to you that various parts of Brettonia are feeling quite rebellious towards the remaining lords, inciting these rebellions will cause much-sought chaos in the land of chivalry. DC 34
    Cost: 0
    Time: 1 Turn
    Rewards: Brettonia now has to deal with rebellions.

    [] Sabotage The Errantry War: Sabotaging the errantry war would not only make it last more time but would also inflict casualties in the military of Brettonia. DC 50
    Cost: 0
    Time: 1 Turn
    Rewards: Errantry war will now last much longer. Brettonians military suffers casualties.

    [] Incite The Dukes: The dukes of Borderlaux and Aquitaine will be in conflict, that is inevitable but you can certainly speed it up. DC 10
    Cost: 0
    Time: 2 Turns
    Rewards: Aquitaine and Borderlux in open conflict at the worst time possible.

    Choose 3

    [] Risen Standard Bearers: These banners were enchanted to provide boosts of morale to the living troops of the masters of the undead.
    Cost: 0
    Time: 1 Turn
    Rewards: +10 bonus to morale rolls of living troops.

    [] Master of the Putrid Horde: While not the best vessels for war, Zombies are a ready and easily accessible source for any budding Necromancer, especially during battle - as fresh corpses are constantly being 'created'. DC 30
    Cost: 0
    Time: 1 Turn
    Rewards: +5 bonus to zombies. -25% of the recruitment cost.

    [] Unearth Cursed Wightblades: A small cantrip can locate ancient blades upon an ancient battlefield long thought lost to time, and they are very easy to find. DC 20
    Cost: 0
    Time: 1 Turn
    Rewards: +10 bonus to grave guard and black knights (when you have them).

    [] Incantations of Ushoran: Ushoran was the first Ghoul King; his spirit can be invoked with the right words, and his children summoned. DC 45
    Cost: 0
    Time: 1 Turn
    Rewards: -10% Recruitment cost for crypt ghouls and horrors.

    [] Corruptor of The Forests: The darker and more haunted the forests become, the better the habitat for fell creatures. DC 34
    Cost: 0
    Time: 1 Turn
    Rewards: -10% Recruitment cost for direwolves and fell bats (when you can do that).

    Choose 3

    [] Learn Subterfuge: Being more cunning and cautious is never a detriment in your mind. DC 30
    Rewards: Depends on Roll

    [] Practice Your Light Magic: Hysh the lore of light it is the first lore of magic you have, you never had time to properly train it as had more pressing matters at the moment. DC 30
    Rewards: New light spell

    [] Practice your vampire magic: Vampires have their own type of magic, it is similar to common necromancy but it is more strong whether because of the nature of vampires as undead or something else no one knows. DC 20
    Rewards: New vampiric spell

    [] Practice Your Shadow Magic: Ulgu, is the lore of shadows which you recently learned, one of its mainly focus are the art of illusions. DC 27
    Rewards: New shadow spell

    [] Learn Fire Magic: Aqshy, the Lore of Fire, is the Red Wind of Magic, and it is the coalescence of the emotional experience and abstract of passion in its widest possible sense. It is the projection of brashness, courage, and enthusiasm. It is also an expression of the mortal feelings of warmth and heat that is often felt in a state of high emotion. DC 69
    Cost: 0
    Time: 1 turn
    Rewards: Learns New Lore: Lore of Fire

    [] Learn Metal Magic: the Lore of Metal is the Yellow Wind of Magic, and it is a manifestation of the Aethyric abstract and reality of logic, the desire to quantify, the desire and need to learn and instruct, and the wish to implement learning to practical or tangible ends. DC 65
    Cost: 0
    Time: 1 turn
    Rewards: Learns New Lore: Lore of Metal

    [] Learn Beast Magic: Ghur, the Lore of Beasts is the Brown Wind of Magic, which is often called the Aethyr's wild and bestial spirit, its spells range from shapeshifting to offensive, defensive and even communication of the beasts of the wild. DC 60
    Cost: 0
    Time: 1 turn
    Rewards: Learns New Lore: Lore of Beasts.

    Treasure: 25,443
    Income: 700
    Expenses: 550
     
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    • Question, if we take the following actions at the same time:
    [] Incite Rebellions:

    [] Sabotage The Errantry War:

    [] Incite The Dukes:

    Would their DC lower or a bonus?
    Also, would taking them make the warning from [] Border Fortifications, Patrols: be cancelled?
     
    [X] Plan Lord of the Night

    -[X] Gather The Undead of Mousillon
    -[X] Gather The Beasts of Mousillon

    Lets keep going with these two in order to reduce the uncontrolled undead in the duchy and make it safer for our people.

    -[X] (Living) Barracks

    And I feel like getting started on the building chain for our living military. Ghost Fence can wait a turn.

    -[X] Trained Diplomats
    -[X] Diplomatic Staff

    Do these two while we wait for propaganda campaign to finish to reveal ourselves.

    -[X] Roads

    Roads for easier movement and to connect our settlements.

    -[X] Build Schools

    Schools so that our populace is better educated, which will help will tons of upgrades.

    -[X] Iron Mines

    And mines to give us access to armor/weapon/other upgrades.

    -[X] Steal Technology (Brettonia)

    -[X] Steal Technology (Empires of Man)

    -[X] No 3rd Intrigue action

    After seeing the Rumor Mill last turn, I feel that we should hold off on making things worse for Bretonnia for fear of causing them to actually lose. So I'm just stealing tech from them and the Empire.

    -[X] Risen Standard Bearers

    Improve our human troops.

    -[X] Master of the Putrid Horde

    Further improve our Zombies.

    -[X] Unearth Cursed Wightblades

    And improve our best undead infantry and cavalry units when we get some.

    -[X] Learn Subterfuge

    Hopefully get this last stat boost.

    -[X] Practice Your Light Magic
    -[X] Practice your vampire magic

    And continue learning Light and Vampire magic

    Hmm, @Alucard vampiry is there a reason learning more Shadow magic isn't available?
     
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