It's not wrong to make Friends in the Dungeon (Danmachi / Sanctioned [Worm])
There is a Actually Satan her name is Dreamer and she likes screwing with everyone.
Path to Victory is first and foremost a tool for information gathering and processing, its purpose is dealing with outside context problems. Predictions is the result of learning the facts and deriving conclusions from them, if anything is off it can use that as jump point towards what it is missing.
If it ever looked at Danmachi's world I imagine it would immediately focus on stuff that isn't already in the database(magic) while throwing up a warning of 'unknown stuff here', and eventually arrive at the conclusion output seems higher than input then promptly pass on that data. It didn't take Taylor long to figure things out even with limited access to QA and other concerns, so I reckon something built for it focusing on the subject would do it even faster.
Which is why QA was so smug about being right in regards to the other Shards being too carefree about excluding worlds, if they had bothered to actually look before that they would have noticed.
...And if Scion ever decides to do something that makes his path to victory look at this world Taylor and QA will need to do some fast-talking. Unless that Shard is chill and goes 'Eh interesting but not what he asked, if he ever does I will mention it'.
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Oh wow you're actually right, she has the edgy backstory, jaded but still optimistic view of the world, a twisted personality, the desire to save as many people as possible with reckless abondamment to herself, a sad realization that her views do not match with reality, people constantly misunderstand them and think the worst of them plus they have that sarcastic stoicism. The only difference is that she lies and keeps secrets while actually not satan does not, although in the abriged version he lies a lot so she actually is Totally not Satan!
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Only if it can detect magic at all.
While it could measure the energy total in that dimensions earth, then compare it to what it simulated the energy total would be from last time, and find thats its higher than it should be. (And / or see that something is interfering with its calculations.) It is unknown how well it could extrapolate from that, and if it would mark it as particularly unusual. Because afterall we know that the precogs don't get absolutely everything right and there are ways to hide information from precogs / they don't simulate everything. So it might mark those changes as 'exceptable mistakes'. Afterall, they can hide entire universes from precogs, which could have similar effects on amount of energy in a world and timeline divergance as moving things from one universe to another.
Roth963
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Taylor could probably push towards recruiting him to whatever purpose she had as long as it isn't too unreasonable from entity perspective using a lot of personality models and precognition, her discovering the solution will probably give her a lot of clout now that the cycle is pointless and the entities will search for new purpose, maybe it will be bunkering up inside the solar system, growing it into giant protective machine to protect themselves from any attackers, and preserving humans to prepare worthy ones for ascension.
Of course it can, it sees an anomaly, look closer and like Dreamer, detects magic and reverse engineering it shortly after.
But it is supposed to be natural environment, seeing a human using magic is enough anomaly in an otherwise primitive setting to at least notice something unusual.
The problem is that danmachi is primitive so there is no reason for anyone to be capable of it but the gods, the gods are weird enough to attract attention by themselves, they are primitive and powerful at the same time, how?
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The Entity's arrival-scan was noticed and half-eaten by the gods specifically in charge of ensuring that deities didn't meddle in the mortal world. That was enough to trigger the "NOPE" quarantine all on its own, although there was some other scary stuff the shards noticed as well. They weren't wrong about it being a threat.
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Considering how entities work, theres actually a decent chance this could happen.
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2. Magic doesn't have to obey scientific rules.
That's assuming it studies all of the unexpected anomalys in all the universes it has access to. Which I believe was more than there are atoms in the universe, of which many of them would have slight inaccuracies .
There likely is SOME amount of energy / triggers which would make the shard take a closer look. But whether the danmachi universe makes enough energy / trips one of those triggers would be unknown.
Edit: It also assumes a decent amount of critical thinking on a shards behalf, which most of the time is not the case.
Entities already close off any worlds which are too technologically advanced, and would a shard immediately notice that the 'gods' aren't just humans who scientifically improved themselves.
And considering teachers closing off a world and some of the other pre-cog immunities its likely that a society can have pre-cog immunity but not travel through dimensions, especially not travel through the entities dimensional barrier, which makes them a non-threat. So at first glance it would just be another technologically advanced society which the entities don't want to deal with.
Edit: Also there is also already a shard (or something very close to a shard) already there in the dungeon, so it can write things off as 'the shard did it'.
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God... you have to wonder what QA will do in her 'Teenage Rebellion' phase.
Honestly I kinda just want her to do almost normal human teenagery things but dipped in a nice layer of Shardness.
Administrator just standing in a corner by herself listing every swear she knows while smiling, hopping lightly on her toes and not stopping no matter how much Tiona pleads for her to stop before Hestia gets here and blames her.
Honestly I kinda just want her to do almost normal human teenagery things but dipped in a nice layer of Shardness.
Administrator just standing in a corner by herself listing every swear she knows while smiling, hopping lightly on her toes and not stopping no matter how much Tiona pleads for her to stop before Hestia gets here and blames her.
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Lmao, everyone keeps forgetting about the gods that could probably fight outer gods. Not to mention that both Norse and Greek Gods are in this universe scaling this place danger level up by a shit-ton, like omg I'm glad they sealed their abilities otherwise this place would be fuked. Also personally think that they visiting from off world since both mythologies have different lore making it pretty improbable that they both exist in the same universe/realm. Gods have Multi world travel confirmed, kinda wish Danmachi explained what Greek and Norse Gods are doing in the same place....
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Roth963
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I also want to mention that by the end of the cycle the entities still blow up the threats as well (at least in canon), although there would probably be significant enough threats that the entities will decide that provoking them is worth less than all the energy in their worlds, sure Scion could probably beat and kill all the gods in danmachi, but at what cost, a lot of shards would be put at risk simply to destroy something that can't even travel dimensions and doesn't seem to be getting close to it anytime soon.
They are definitely a risk to individual shards, but I don't think they can take on Scion if he attacked them directly, although some might slip past him and kill shards, which from an entity perspective isn't worth it to both risk their presence being revealed to the locals and only to get the energy or experimentation grounds of a single world.
The gods of danmachi are powerful and at the planet busters level, but so are shards and wasn't Artemis eaten by a monster in that one movie (didn't see it but heard of it).
They are definitely a risk to individual shards, but I don't think they can take on Scion if he attacked them directly, although some might slip past him and kill shards, which from an entity perspective isn't worth it to both risk their presence being revealed to the locals and only to get the energy or experimentation grounds of a single world.
If they do than it isn't using technology, they seem to be capable of evolving fast if given examples, but they are less advanced than modern humans, simply more powerful, if they can travel worlds than it is through their magic.
Fighting Eldritch Horrors isn't something new to them, Zeus is Immortal and Odin can't die to anything besides his prophesied battle with Fenrir making it a non issue. Basically they Auto Win due to life Hacks, so like yea that's a thing the Entities won't be able to win against Lmao.
Scion can't win, they'll just banish him or put him in a box outside the universe with Yog or something.
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- Neptune
Why do you believe she woold teenage rebel like a human? She is a shard. She lives with shard mandates and shard restrictions. So she'll rebel against those, not against human "bad words" restrictions. Instead of serving under a host she'll rebel by doing her own original research.
The next chapter is apparently going to be something with Shard rebellion Stage as said by WoG so that's a pretty big reason, there's also the fact that they are bleeding into each other as stated by Freya so QA might not be thinking all shard anymore.
idk I'm just speculating at this point.
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What will dreamer do when she's a big strong shard capable of fighting entities one on one? I for one think dreamer will travel the multiverse trying to make it a better place! Maybe she'll visit the palace of slaanesh and teach it self-restraint and innocence? Who knows where she'll end up!
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It doesn't necessarily means they can't be killed, the entities were in this business for a long time, and earth probably isn't the special snowflake of magic and it did exist in other worlds, the entities might have fought "immortal" alien gods before and killed them as well.
Sure Zeus and Odin are so powerful they might as well be immortal from everyone perspective, doesn't mean they are.
Why can't he put them on a time stop or something, saying that they can't be killed and Invincible from the perspective of primitives doesn't fill me with much trust, do you say that if the entire multiverse (not only earth) but Fenrir attacked them than they would win, the gods of danmachi are powerful, but they aren't universe admins.
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Actually they might even be less than that.
Artemis is sort of a special case among them, and only got up to planet buster after charging for awhile.
And before it goes off If I remember correctly one of the gods in orario says that even if the gods worked together now, they wouldn't be able to stop the arrow from destroying the world. Implying that (atleast without charging) all the other gods in orario with their arcana wouldn't be able to stop the arrow together without prep time.
So the gods may only be around Mountain busting level?? without charging. Not that I did the calcs or found out how many gods are currently in orario.
It would also fit with how strong the monster was before changing the arrow.
The fact that they don't have or understand the concept of a Soul works against this claim.
It's not just that though Narratively they aren't ment to lose this makes them a big threat against the entities since it would mean that they are bared from victory via plot armor, an example of this would be how Wildbow said that if the Endbringers attacked the justice league the justice league would win because narratively that's how they were written they can't lose and I have no doubt that it's the same for Scion vs Justice League. The gods despite how powerful the entities are would win for the same reason it would go against their narrative. For Zeus and Odin the Entities would be another threat that they would eventually defeat because plot demands them, maybe Odin will set Fenrir on him as a distraction while he carpet bombs whatever unverse the entities are currently inhabiting with Zeus. Idk they'll definitely ass-pull something on that I can guarantee. Although this is fanfic so anything could happen.
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- She/Her
In this, there actually aren't any real shard-rules against falsified data. QA has been the victim of such (mostly from Queen Shaper) on numerous occasions.
...You do realize you guys are devolving into a versus argument, right?
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You do realize that the only way to counteract the presence of an entropy argument is by increasing entropy in other arguments, yes?
Roth963
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Do the entities also blow up the threats when they leave the planet in your story.
Not wanting to continue the who would win, Zeus and Odin can probably survive the planet being destroyed as it was going to happen with that monster, but I am curious if they do it or pretend the threatening world doesn't exist when they leave.
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The threatening worlds would generally be destroyed as a side effect, yes. Please move on. >.<
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- Strange Aeons
I mean, it's not really a lie to say that :MOTHER:'s shards have detached from each other: they're certainly not engaging in overwatch. And given that the collective DID crash, despite being a super-collective of Cosmic Unicorns, does kinda suggest some shards messed up, either intentionally, stupidly, or both.
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I wonder what is happening with Ishtar, she got to be planning something now, she wouldn't let what happend to her slide and go to play pimp somewhere far away, does anyone have any theories.
Maybe she will try to kidnap Dreamer (which will be hilarious if Dreamer kept phasing mode).
Maybe she will try to kidnap Dreamer (which will be hilarious if Dreamer kept phasing mode).
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