- Location
- Montana
You have a point, but people know bad decisions are bad because someone has done them before. That's how life works. And sometimes, you might be the one making these decisions and telling others not to.
It's not wrong to make Friends in the Dungeon (Danmachi / Sanctioned [Worm])
Are you sure about that? There are a whole lot of stimuli-responses that are extremely similar across... very nearly all humans, and that is without particularly trying. Sure, it may not be rotating a spiral in front of them to make them unceasingly obedient to all of your commands, but advertising does see real results in getting people to do things they do not actually benefit from nor have a pre-existing interest in. And again, that is trusting your mind-control genetics to evolution. A proper effort dedicated to creating a mind prone to reliable responses to specific stimuli... it could go quite far.
- Location
- Salt Lake City, UT, USA
We already know how to do some of that even without genetic engineering involved to optimize it -- it's called the Priming (psychology) - Wikipedia effect, and it can be fairly impressive and equally subtle. It's used fairly often in low-key manner in advertising, for example.
A combination of a few very basic but amplified response associations could enable a psychological conditioning program to induce unthinking obedience after conditioning that's expanded upon those associations.
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- Salt Lake City, UT, USA
To provide a touch of reassurance, no research proposals to actually master things like this would ever pass ethical review boards.
Vebyast
Nascent Transhuman
Too late. Applied psychology is the foundation of modern democracy and a key piece of the infrastructure of civilization. Turns out that the only way to get tens of millions of people going in the same direction is to conduct organized attacks on human cognition. That's what public debates and advertisements and public broadcasting are.
Academic Guardian
Just an old man with a hobby
- Location
- Somewhere in the twisting Kaleidoscope
If you have ever seen a modern ad I have bad news for you
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- western US
yeah, the modern age gives tools of technology....but the people who benifit the most are the people with the most tech...which often means the people with the most money more so then just the most people.
and that, of course, includes cognitive tools such as mathematics, statistics and behavior prediction tricks such as marketing and game theory.
Vebyast
Nascent Transhuman
Of course! Knowledge is power. It always has been and it always will be. Knowledge of language and pointy sticks and rocks and clay bricks let our ancestors fight nature and each other. Knowledge of metalworking and mathematics and logistics let us fight each other in classical and medieval times. And knowledge of mathematics and statistics and propaganda lets us fight ourselves now. Any tool can be abused, and the best tools are by definition the most efficient and effective.
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fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
Expect with the internet we no longer have a handfull of mind controllers, but millions of them. Of different levels of skill and different and conflicting agendas.
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Vebyast
Nascent Transhuman
That's always been the case. Did you think that language was magic?
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But you can't run away forever. Better we face it now and get it over with.
I rather suspect that I would prefer Big Brother to The Blind Leading the Blind. Heartbreaker conquering the world would be Quite Bad but still seems preferable to a Zombie Apocalypse in which the zeds win.
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So... Pulse was it? Can, uh, she? use magic at all? One might expect that she would have seen a "Level zero minor lesser illumination" spell or something cast that was safer to experiment with than "whoops, my head exploded". Maybe the adventurers she saw just didn't use baby magic? Actual learned magic sees somewhat rare... and Falna doesn't seem the sort to bother with anything too minor. Or is magic really that dangerous to play with? I am just wondering if maybe her... modular? design might be incompatible with magic designed for fleshy things with fleshy magic-flows.
Torgamous
Aspiring Gynoid
- Pronouns
- She/Her
It's the same picture.
Magic has been established to behave differently depending on what the user is, so it's very likely that she can't use human magic and almost as likely that she'll be able to do her own magic once Dreamer figures out how crystal humanoid dungeonspawn magic works.
- Location
- Leeds
Project QKHILLTOP and MKULTRA - CIA brainwashing research. Weird thing is that QKHILLTOP didn't stop because it succeeded or failed, another branch of government picked it up so it must have passed two seperate ethics boards. PROJECT QKHILLTOP | CIA FOIA (foia.cia.gov)
Unethical human experimentation in the United States - Wikipedia
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- Earth, Sol System, Virgo Supercluster, Earth-1218
This talk about programming in subservience missed the obvious:
QA ALREADY DID THIS when she made all her Friends. They have pre-programmed training and obedience that is equal to or in excess of a soldier's training.
QA ALREADY DID THIS when she made all her Friends. They have pre-programmed training and obedience that is equal to or in excess of a soldier's training.
Motile Mollusc
Bitten by a radioactive were-tilde
- Location
- Here
Unless you properly influence the ethical review board, of course.
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- U.S.
Well according to Macross it is.
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- United States
Just wondering, but is the current discussion still on topic? Cause at this point I'm just scrolling past stuff.
Anyways, I kinda enjoy the assumptions people are making of QA. What would happen if she ever mention what her FATHER's current avatar/form is I wonder?
Anyways, I kinda enjoy the assumptions people are making of QA. What would happen if she ever mention what her FATHER's current avatar/form is I wonder?
Alivaril
On a magically-deficient journey of self-discovery
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- A single human dimension
- Pronouns
- She/Her
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- Location
- Somewhere.
Warn people when you're linking to TVTropes!"Nudist colony"? "Bunny-eared ruler"?
Archeo Lumiere
The Prince's Archivist
- Location
- Lumiose City, Kalos
- Pronouns
- He/Him/They/Them
I honestly spotted that one a mile away. :/
Meh, there's nothing wrong with visiting there once in a while.
...what year is it anyway?
Alivaril
On a magically-deficient journey of self-discovery
- Location
- A single human dimension
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Just think of it as self-control training. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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- United States
Eh, I think I got used to tv tropes now. I at least no longer have multiple windows and tabs open consisting of just it. Still end up with multiple pages open that I just bookmark to return to later unless I forget about it.