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It's not wrong to make Friends in the Dungeon (Danmachi / Sanctioned [Worm])

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Pandora said:
I love the story, I really do!

But, OOOOH!! How it irritates me that Lachesis is prodding her to go back to the real world.
I dislike the fact that she won't leave her be and accept her choice. After all, if she needs to go back, SHE had better stop drinking!!!
She is like someone who does drugs telling a smoker to quit.

I love this story a lot and that I got this mad serves as another point in your favor!
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Yeah... but the expression with great power comes great responsibility. You REALLY don't want someone who has as much power as Taylor does to distance herself from everyone else and think of them as other, not important, or not her problem.

Similar to the problem of what skill to give Ais,
Alivaril said:
Tossing out powers like flower petals was easy when you didn't at all care about the recipients or any resulting consequences.
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Taylor might still care about other people now, but if she keeps herself apart from everyone else and doesn't try to push forward and interact with them, the odds of that empathy decreasing go up. Also, she is unlikely to push out of her shell on her own, and it grows increasingly less likely for her to do so the longer she goes on without doing so.

Also (much smaller point), With Lachesis's drinking, she at least has a long life in which she managed to stay semi-sane despite her habits (Taylor doesn't have that experience/evidence to point to), and she was rather limited in what she could do, due to her busy schedule. It's possible she might start doing other things instead of drinking once she has more free time (or at least not drink to excess).

TL/DR, I think Hestia would approve of Lachesis's intervention of Taylor.
 
Gehoji said:
I just imagined QA seeing the Indomitus Rex and going "I can do better."
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Taylor just copying the Indomitus Rex, but making it loyal and able to accept commands would be a giga-tier dunk on the people who designed the thing in the first place.

"Ok, so we are going to make a dinosaur"
"Right"
"But, like, a super dinosaur, with every cool feature and add-on we can think of"
"Sweet"
"And we are not going to include any programming or control tool in it"
"ummmmm"
"And we will raise it in total isolation, so it ends up asocial and unable to be trained."
"Where am I working at, Umbrella?"
 
serra2 said:
Taylor just copying the Indomitus Rex, but making it loyal and able to accept commands would be a giga-tier dunk on the people who designed the thing in the first place.

"Ok, so we are going to make a dinosaur"
"Right"
"But, like, a super dinosaur, with every cool feature and add-on we can think of"
"Sweet"
"And we are not going to include any programming or control tool in it"
"ummmmm"
"And we will raise it in total isolation, so it ends up asocial and unable to be trained."
"Where am I working at, Umbrella?"
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Believe or not you cannot actually progrm mind control into peoples genes.
 
you can't hardcode EVERYTHING into genetics...but theres a reason why we call dogs "domesticated"....we got their genes to express themselves in a way that makes dogs act very submissively towards humans and pay a lot of attention to how happy we are.....which results in dogs (not wolfs) being very friendly towards humans 99% of the time (at least when raised correctly).

combo gene-engineering with good "parenting" and you can make a faithful slave/servent/pet at least as often (if not more so since you have direct control instead of just indirect gene manipulation).
 
serra2 said:
We are talking Jurassic World genetics here, where you can apparently splice in whatever nonsense you want into a creature and it all works out without problems. All they had to do was plug in the dog gene and it would have been a puppy or something.
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I now have the picture in my head of Bitch and her pack of furry JP style velociraptors running around Brockton Bay, because some idiot did add puppy genes.
 
Dragon_352 said:
you can't hardcode EVERYTHING into genetics...but theres a reason why we call dogs "domesticated"....we got their genes to express themselves in a way that makes dogs act very submissively towards humans and pay a lot of attention to how happy we are.....which results in dogs (not wolfs) being very friendly towards humans 99% of the time (at least when raised correctly).

combo gene-engineering with good "parenting" and you can make a faithful slave/servent/pet at least as often (if not more so since you have direct control instead of just indirect gene manipulation).
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Eh gonna be honest the indominus was smart enough that i think it may have been capable of rebellion no matter what you did.

But yeah raising it in total isolation was an idiotic move, that i don't understand at all... like... who thought that was a good idea?

Like even if it was done for the moronic dinosaur weaponization thing... its still so fucking dumb.
 
ninjafish said:
Eh gonna be honest the indominus was smart enough that i think it may have been capable of rebellion no matter what you did.
But yeah raising it in total isolation was an idiotic move, that i don't understand at all... like... who thought that was a good idea?
Like even if it was done for the moronic dinosaur weaponization thing... its still so fucking dumb.
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It was viewed as a product first, instead of a living thing.
Which was the entire problem.
 
ninjafish said:
Eh gonna be honest the indominus was smart enough that i think it may have been capable of rebellion no matter what you did.
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Deep brain nerve induction. Target the pleasure, pain, and motor centers.

It obeys you, mild pleasure. It attempts to anticipate your intentions and gets even close, more pleasure. It is stubborn, mild pain. It is destructive of property, extreme pain. It attempts violent disobedience, induce paralytic seizure.

Pretty sure that existing that way from infancy would make it unilaterally obedient in adulthood.

Just saying.

Also. I might not be allowed back at the mad scientist's conventions. Something about being too good at this.

EDIT: Seriously, who the hell designs removable nerve staples?! It's like they refuse to consult mad engineers out of sheer spite. I swear.
 
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Logos01 said:
Deep brain nerve induction. Target the pleasure, pain, and motor centers.

It obeys you, mild pleasure. It attempts to anticipate your intentions and gets even close, more pleasure. It is stubborn, mild pain. It is destructive of property, extreme pain. It attempts violent disobedience, induce paralytic seizure.

Pretty sure that existing that way from infancy would make it unilaterally obedient in adulthood.

Just saying.

Also. I might not be allowed back at the mad scientist's conventions. Something about being too good at this.
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Confusion might also work. Send random responses towards any action it takes until the subject doesn't know how to act and it'll end up not taking any decisions and defaulting to your decisions instead. iirc that's how elephants are trained in India.
 
ninjafish said:
Trying to make someone live in the real world is the exact opposite of helpful.

i call it outright malice even.

The real world is awful who would want to live there if given an alternative?

this is why i spend as much time as possible on the internet or fiction.

To stay away from reality.

Because reality sucks.
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*sending virtual hugs, because they are superior to normal hugs*
 
serra2 said:
Taylor just copying the Indomitus Rex, but making it loyal and able to accept commands would be a giga-tier dunk on the people who designed the thing in the first place.

"Ok, so we are going to make a dinosaur"
"Right"
"But, like, a super dinosaur, with every cool feature and add-on we can think of"
"Sweet"
"And we are not going to include any programming or control tool in it"
"ummmmm"
"And we will raise it in total isolation, so it ends up asocial and unable to be trained."
"Where am I working at, Umbrella?"
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"No no no, that's a different department"
*Whew, dodged a close one*
"We go by the code name Cerberus"
"!!!"
"You haven't even seen what the tech guys are working on in the basement, a giant nuclear powered walking robot"
"!!!"
 
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