Alexander89
Pet the pretty kitty? Y/N
- Location
- Italy
Yeah you're right, I forgot. Here:
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Green Sun, Black Shadows (CG/Exalted)
- Thread starter Alexander89
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Ok, I've come up with a speech. It's mostly the canon speech to start with, but in the second half I altered things to account for a lot of the canon speech being used in our speech against Marquess Anson, and to add a bit of the whole world being broken stuff. I didn't want to be repetitive. Suggestions for changes to wording are welcome.
[X] Altered Canon Speech
Speech/Stunt:
"Britannians, there's no need to panic. The hostages that were being held in the hotel have all been saved. I shall return them to you." you say with a reassuring tone. Suddenly, the boat lights illuminate your comrades at your sides, but you stay partially cloaked in darkness to maintain your air of mystery and uniqueness.
"People of the world! Fear us or seek us! We, the Order of the Black Knights, are allies of all those who hold no weapons! Be they Japanese or Britannians. The Japanese Liberation Front used cowardly tactics. They took Britannian civilians as hostages and were preparing to kill them in cold blood. It was a meaningless action. Thus, we have punished them. Marquess Anson was the same. He used innocents who had no weapons for his vain and senseless experiments. We could not allow these cruel acts to stand! Thus, we punished him."
"I don't wish to fight, but this world is corrupt and broken, and so I must! The wicked may revel in their oppression of the powerless, but we shall be there to fight them! We shall defeat them at every turn! Those with power, fear us! Those without, seek us!" you declare boldly, encouraging others to join your rebellion. "This world shall know justice, for we are the Black Knights!"
Charm Use and Rationale:
- Beautiful In My Way: With the Mask of Zero, this Charm's effects are not blocked. Zero should appear enigmatic and fascinating, with a strange alien beauty.
- My Dark Lady: By not being directly illuminated, the effects of Beautiful In My Way should be enhanced. Perhaps he'll be more mysterious and enigmatic.
- First Oramus Excellency: 8 uses, 8 motes. Keywords: mystery, uniqueness, rebellion.
- Oramus Inevitability Technique. Costs 1. Target number for rolls lowered to 6 instead of 7.
- Maximum use of dice from Stunt Pool to increase total dice pool, if needed
Additional Dice:
- Stunt increased by one level due to resonating with motivation
- Use of Deceiver's Stone to make this a Manipulation roll rather than Charisma.
- Add two dice for Mantle of Kings
- Add two dice for Silver Tongue
Roll should be Manipulation + Performance due to speech. Appearance enhancement from MDL should enhance emotion effect from MDL, which should reduce the Difficulty of the roll most likely.
For those wondering about dice pools and probabilities, I used this to check on that:
AnyDice
For the rolls, it shows using 8x First Excellency (+8 dice to the pool) plus Inevitability Technique vs using 4x Second Excellency (+4 successes automatically) - with the sheer number of dice involved, getting less than four successes in the first case is very low, and the chances get better for higher numbers with the First Excellency and Inevitability Technique. So we're very unlikely to fail, and we're more likely to blow people away with this speech.
[X] Altered Canon Speech
Speech/Stunt:
"Britannians, there's no need to panic. The hostages that were being held in the hotel have all been saved. I shall return them to you." you say with a reassuring tone. Suddenly, the boat lights illuminate your comrades at your sides, but you stay partially cloaked in darkness to maintain your air of mystery and uniqueness.
"People of the world! Fear us or seek us! We, the Order of the Black Knights, are allies of all those who hold no weapons! Be they Japanese or Britannians. The Japanese Liberation Front used cowardly tactics. They took Britannian civilians as hostages and were preparing to kill them in cold blood. It was a meaningless action. Thus, we have punished them. Marquess Anson was the same. He used innocents who had no weapons for his vain and senseless experiments. We could not allow these cruel acts to stand! Thus, we punished him."
"I don't wish to fight, but this world is corrupt and broken, and so I must! The wicked may revel in their oppression of the powerless, but we shall be there to fight them! We shall defeat them at every turn! Those with power, fear us! Those without, seek us!" you declare boldly, encouraging others to join your rebellion. "This world shall know justice, for we are the Black Knights!"
Charm Use and Rationale:
- Beautiful In My Way: With the Mask of Zero, this Charm's effects are not blocked. Zero should appear enigmatic and fascinating, with a strange alien beauty.
- My Dark Lady: By not being directly illuminated, the effects of Beautiful In My Way should be enhanced. Perhaps he'll be more mysterious and enigmatic.
- First Oramus Excellency: 8 uses, 8 motes. Keywords: mystery, uniqueness, rebellion.
- Oramus Inevitability Technique. Costs 1. Target number for rolls lowered to 6 instead of 7.
- Maximum use of dice from Stunt Pool to increase total dice pool, if needed
Additional Dice:
- Stunt increased by one level due to resonating with motivation
- Use of Deceiver's Stone to make this a Manipulation roll rather than Charisma.
- Add two dice for Mantle of Kings
- Add two dice for Silver Tongue
Roll should be Manipulation + Performance due to speech. Appearance enhancement from MDL should enhance emotion effect from MDL, which should reduce the Difficulty of the roll most likely.
For those wondering about dice pools and probabilities, I used this to check on that:
AnyDice
For the rolls, it shows using 8x First Excellency (+8 dice to the pool) plus Inevitability Technique vs using 4x Second Excellency (+4 successes automatically) - with the sheer number of dice involved, getting less than four successes in the first case is very low, and the chances get better for higher numbers with the First Excellency and Inevitability Technique. So we're very unlikely to fail, and we're more likely to blow people away with this speech.
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Alexander89
Pet the pretty kitty? Y/N
- Location
- Italy
Good speech, but it reminded me that I also adapted the canon speech:
The news of the attack at the Anson Villa spread on the web like wildfire not even a hour after the fact. Despite the work of Britannia's censorship machine the macabre photos of the surrounding walls taken by bystanders are the subjects of constant debate, opinions ranging from simple fakes to conspiracy plots.
And then, exactly an hour and ten minutes after the fact, the most famous forums and major news stations received an anonymous file containing incredibly accurate photos, digital proofs that Marquess Anson was guilty of numerous crimes, bribery of the police among them, and a video:
To all who are watching this. Fear us, or rally behind us as you see fit! We are the Black Knights!Unknown to the citizens of Area Eleven, the same file was sent to all the Areas, the Homeland and every other nation of the world.
We of the Black Knights stand with all those who have no weapons to wield...regardless of whether they be Japanese, Britannians or any other nationality! Marquess Gregory Anson has been found guilty of crimes not only against the law, but human rights themselves! He sought to hide from judgement with money and even dared to play God; therefore he has been punished!
I am Zero! The Leader of the Black Knights! I will not repudiate battle on a fair and level field, but neither will I tolerate a one-sided massacre of the weak by the strong. The only ones who should kill are those who are prepared to be killed! Wherever oppressors abuse their power by attacking those who are powerless, we shall appear again, no matter how mighty or formidable our foe may be!
Those of you with power, fear us! Those of you without it, rally behind us! We, the Black Knights, shall be the ones who stand in judgment of this world!
Just in case you don't want Lelouch to repeats himself
Good speech, but it reminded me that I also adapted the canon speech:
Just in case you don't want Lelouch to repeats himself
Yeah, like I said, I made alterations with that in mind. At this point it's still kind of a recruitment pitch, so the intro starts out largely the same. Then go with decrying the JLF's actions, but then compare that with our previous punishment of Marquess Anson to remind people we did that and to again show that we're not biased based on nationality. Then some changes to the last portion, but still closing similarly from before.
Still, if anyone else has some good suggestions for changes, I'm more than happy to make them.
- Location
- Pittsburgh, PA
[X] Enjou
Let's get it on.
Let's get it on.
@Enjou Should it be Japanese instead of Elevens, patriotism, freedom and justice is what we try to rally people to fight for us with this. Calling people by the diminishing name doesn't sound right.
Also the Elevens at Marquis part should be changed to innocents. That gives it more strength.
Also the Elevens at Marquis part should be changed to innocents. That gives it more strength.
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They were called Elevens in the canon speech, actually. I presume Lelouch had a reason for this at the time.
Crow
Falling is a Pleasure. Regardless of its Fate
Wouldn't it be better to refer to them as Japanese now?
Btw, are we still masked as air aspect? If so, would using little peripheral for charm be possible, that is if we don't have green glow. We could always lie to followers it was some item techs build to us so we could give dramatic ending to our speech.
[X] Find the VIP
[X] Altered Canon Speech
[X] Find the VIP
[X] Altered Canon Speech
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Like I said, I assume Lelouch had a reason to refer to them as Elevens at the time. I think part of the point was to bring in Britannians who aren't viewing the Black Knights as revolutionaries fighting against Britannia, but as heroes of justice fighting against corruption and evil. I'm not sure if it matters too much. If enough people want the change I can make it, though.
I'd prefer not to clue off anyone that we're Exalted at all.
Depending on just how well we roll on the speech (*looks at the list of charms we're using*) that ship may already be in the process of sailing. Better to point potential enemies in the know into the direction of a Dragonblood (not something overly dangerous, comparatively speaking) than to have them investigate on their own without bias and potentially find out about Infernals, let alone fifty of them working together.
- Location
- his hidden lair
[X] Enjou
So, considering we're throwing 17(?) dice at difficulty 6, we're probably looking at like 8 successes here. That's a lot of success, how much will it tip our hand? I'm assuming it will at the very least be obvious we're an exalted of some kind, but will it be enough to conclude we're a solaroid as opposed to a Dragon Blooded?
So, considering we're throwing 17(?) dice at difficulty 6, we're probably looking at like 8 successes here. That's a lot of success, how much will it tip our hand? I'm assuming it will at the very least be obvious we're an exalted of some kind, but will it be enough to conclude we're a solaroid as opposed to a Dragon Blooded?
Well, it's not like anyone has a way to count the successes someone has in universe. They can simply see the results, which will take time to become apparent.
It should also be remembered that there are other supernatural things at play - while "Exalt" is a standard one, so it god-blooded, demon-blooded, fae-blooded, etc. And Heroic Mortals are a thing, so there being a guy who is a really good speaker and showman doesn't make them an Exalt by default - just look at the bullshit that Suzaku can pull off as a mortal. So, I wouldn't be too worried about it.
However, any Sidereals trying to scry Zero's fate during the announcement will find that he has a destiny, because of Loom-Snarling Decpetion's Shaping effect on the Loom. What they'll find in their readings is an Air-aspected Dragonblooded man who at some point in his life was horribly scarred, presumably in such a way that he's got motives to move against Britannia, and by all appearances this Zero will appear to be Fate reverting to its proper course.
It should also be remembered that there are other supernatural things at play - while "Exalt" is a standard one, so it god-blooded, demon-blooded, fae-blooded, etc. And Heroic Mortals are a thing, so there being a guy who is a really good speaker and showman doesn't make them an Exalt by default - just look at the bullshit that Suzaku can pull off as a mortal. So, I wouldn't be too worried about it.
However, any Sidereals trying to scry Zero's fate during the announcement will find that he has a destiny, because of Loom-Snarling Decpetion's Shaping effect on the Loom. What they'll find in their readings is an Air-aspected Dragonblooded man who at some point in his life was horribly scarred, presumably in such a way that he's got motives to move against Britannia, and by all appearances this Zero will appear to be Fate reverting to its proper course.
- Location
- Hawaii
I think part of the reason that Lelouch used Elevens in the canon speech was the fact that he didn't consciously care enough to think of them as Japanese. The Lake Kawaguchi incident is not very long after Shinjuku, which is when he started to move and think like Zero. Additionally, he was still thinking of the Black Knights as tools for his vengeance, rather than as comrades. At this point, I doubt he believes (seriously) in anything he is saying as Zero. It's just pretty rhetoric and propaganda to motivate and inspire the Japanese to his cause. To me, the use of Elevens in the canon speech was a bit jarring, looking at it from the perspective of an ordinary viewer; this presumably Japanese revolutionary who has just proclaimed himself the enemy of the world* just went and called his own people Elevens, a degrading ethnic slur which forments resentment among the native populace? (* to a Britannian viewer, declaring himself the enemy of Britannia might as well be declaring war on the part of the world that matters).
An alternative interpretation of Lelouch's use of Elevens in the canon speech is a deeper reading that is far too easy to overlook for a casual viewer watching the broadcast. By calling the Japanese Elevens, it is not an insult or careless mistake, but a deliberate choice, highlighting the current state of the Japanese people. While they may dislike the status quo, and resent their oppressors, they are, at the moment, downtrodden "Elevens" without the will and identity to assert themselves as "Japanese". I'm sure for many of the Japanese who managed to see the broadcast, they would immediately think to themselves: "I'm Japanese, not an Eleven!" However, few would dare shout it aloud and risk bring down retaliation on themselves or others. If that is the case, then they truly are Elevens, because they would be unwilling or unable to deny having the label applied to them. It's a whole philosophical identity mess that twists into a recursive logical loop that I don't feel like thinking about right now.
In any case, these are my opinions on why Lelouch used the word "Elevens" in the speech. Pick it apart as you will, but I doubt GSP Lelouch is much more sincere at this point. Maybe he is and I'm just being overly cynical, but that's how I see it.
An alternative interpretation of Lelouch's use of Elevens in the canon speech is a deeper reading that is far too easy to overlook for a casual viewer watching the broadcast. By calling the Japanese Elevens, it is not an insult or careless mistake, but a deliberate choice, highlighting the current state of the Japanese people. While they may dislike the status quo, and resent their oppressors, they are, at the moment, downtrodden "Elevens" without the will and identity to assert themselves as "Japanese". I'm sure for many of the Japanese who managed to see the broadcast, they would immediately think to themselves: "I'm Japanese, not an Eleven!" However, few would dare shout it aloud and risk bring down retaliation on themselves or others. If that is the case, then they truly are Elevens, because they would be unwilling or unable to deny having the label applied to them. It's a whole philosophical identity mess that twists into a recursive logical loop that I don't feel like thinking about right now.
In any case, these are my opinions on why Lelouch used the word "Elevens" in the speech. Pick it apart as you will, but I doubt GSP Lelouch is much more sincere at this point. Maybe he is and I'm just being overly cynical, but that's how I see it.
After thinking about it, I'm changing "Eleven" in my speech to "Japanese" because it's consistent with the prior speech.
And again, any suggestions to change up the speech are welcome.
No. Using motes only activates our anima if we're using peripheral motes. Since we have eight inner motes left, it's not a problem.
And again, any suggestions to change up the speech are welcome.
No. Using motes only activates our anima if we're using peripheral motes. Since we have eight inner motes left, it's not a problem.
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That's what I meant.
Your plan, if I read it right, mentioned using 8 motes for the Excellency, and one mote to lower the target number to 6.
That's 9 motes, 1 more than we have of personal essence.
It's one Willpower to lower the target number to 6, not a mote. Also, it takes a few motes from the peripheral pool to make the anima start appearing.
meianmaru
The Devourer of Fiction
Finally, I'm freed from the shackles of having-to-do-something-else-and-or-don't-have-time-or-energy-for-quests! I'm throwing this as an additional plan to complement Enjou's.
[X] Find the VIP
Stunt: You scan the crowd of hostages being loaded to lifeboats with eyes that are not hindered even by absolute darkness, and that can see far more than just the dross "material" world of calcified Essence. But in this case, you are mostly looking for those mundane yet oh-so important clues, anomalous behavior among the now mostly hopeful crowd being lead to the lifeboats, or faces that you might recognize. Hidden by your mask, your eyes flash green once as you spot someone suspicious.
-Perception+Awareness roll (5d10) (Or Investigation, but the dice pool will still remain the same).
-1wp spent for an auto-success.
-Insignificant Embers Intuition used one time if we spot someone who might be the VIP. (2m)
-Automatically: Dual Gaze Paradox for any active essence effects or magical disguises. (0m)
-Should raise our Caste Mark's visibility only by one degree after Enjou's plan's mote use,a black disc appearing on Lelouch's brow that is concealable by the mask EDIT: Air-Caste elemental aura, probably wind slightly flapping his cape at this level, shouldn't be too obvious, I guess?
The rationale behind the plan: As Enjou is aiming high with the speech, we really can't spare much motes to this. One willpower spent for an auto-sux should help with our low dice pool. However, I think we can spare some for IEI to wring out more information out of them (might not be Euphie, even if it probably is), if we spot someone that is.
[X] Find the VIP
Stunt: You scan the crowd of hostages being loaded to lifeboats with eyes that are not hindered even by absolute darkness, and that can see far more than just the dross "material" world of calcified Essence. But in this case, you are mostly looking for those mundane yet oh-so important clues, anomalous behavior among the now mostly hopeful crowd being lead to the lifeboats, or faces that you might recognize. Hidden by your mask, your eyes flash green once as you spot someone suspicious.
-Perception+Awareness roll (5d10) (Or Investigation, but the dice pool will still remain the same).
-1wp spent for an auto-success.
-Insignificant Embers Intuition used one time if we spot someone who might be the VIP. (2m)
-Automatically: Dual Gaze Paradox for any active essence effects or magical disguises. (0m)
-Should raise our Caste Mark's visibility only by one degree after Enjou's plan's mote use,
The rationale behind the plan: As Enjou is aiming high with the speech, we really can't spare much motes to this. One willpower spent for an auto-sux should help with our low dice pool. However, I think we can spare some for IEI to wring out more information out of them (might not be Euphie, even if it probably is), if we spot someone that is.
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[X] Find the VIP
[X] Altered Canon Speech
[X] Altered Canon Speech
Just a note - if we've still got Loom-Snarling Deception up, then it should be an Air Aspect mark.
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