Green Sun, Black Shadows (CG/Exalted)

Which I've repeatedly point out don't apply to the quest for the purposes of xp?
You're missing my point. In the normal rules it's effectively a special type of XP expenditure; all other types can be grouped together, with changes to training times/mechanisms applying to them all. Essence, however, is in a different category in the core rules; that changes applying to other XP spending also apply to it is far from guaranteed.
In 10 days we can start summoning a demon a day. Once a day, we can get a powerful fighter, a skilled craftsman, another assassin, or any number of incredibly useful things. It's incredibly worth it.
As I said, we have cults- plural- that can also do the summoning. And a fair sized force of demons already at our disposal. I'm not saying that it's not a gain (since it obviously is), but it's not as much of a gamechanger as it would be if we were operating alone or with a couple of circlemates.
 
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Can we get multiple Sorcerous Enlightenment of (Yozi)?
I think you can get multiple, and can also learn 'normal' sorcery as well, RAW.
I'd also like to suggest maxing out Int, Wits, Per, and Cha, or at least working toward that goal.
Since my Raising Essence has been nixed, I'd propose raising Int instead. We can justify the training as him paying more attention in class. Then we might be able to add a few more charms, or we might want to raise Cha, or something. We're sitting on a lot of xp right now, we need to get it spent.
Expensive. That would require 49 XP or so and ~7 months of time.
I'd say it's worth it to get started on, given that we can train multiple things and it would increase our Excellency cap.

Okay, so new xp expenditure plan since raising Enlightenment isn't in the cards right now:
[x] Notanautomaton 1.2
-[x] Sorcerous Enlightenment of the Ebon Dragon (8)
--[x] Slave-Spawn Summons (Effectively a better Demon of the First Circle for Infernals only) when that's finished training in 3 days. (17)
-[x] Intelligence (Lulu is going to start trying to pay attention in class. He might as well, he can't keep skipping. Also, he's going to be teaching his souls during class when it gets too boring.) (25)
- [x] Titanic Spawn Uncountable (35)
-[x] Increase Willpower to 10 (44)
-[x] Increase Conviction to 5 (47)
[x] Continue training what we already are

If anyone has any Ebon Dragon or Oramus charms they think should be added in, suggest them to me now and I'll add them in if they look good.
 
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So, I had an idea for another Cythera-Patroned Defiler. Basically, if Rakshata represents Cythera's willingness to help someone achieve their goals, IE building weapons for people, then this new Defiler represents Cythera's controlling nature. Basically, imagine a well-intentioned but overbearing and controlling mother. "You want to go into medicine? No. Teaching's more respectable. You want to take a break from studying to go to a party your friends are hosting? No, you need to keep your grades up, even if you have a 3.5 or higher GPA." Basically, the kind of person who does want you to succeed, but completely disregard your own opinions.

Thoughts?
I think you want Kimbery for this.
 
A five rated virtue? Five? From a mechanics point it's a good spend but RP wise... Do you want us to emulate the sanity of ADORJAN? We are not that mad.. Wow... Otherwise, decent plan. I'll wait to see Enjou's offering before making up my mind.
Lelouch, as in the show, is already pretty much Conviction 5. This is just codifying that. If people don't like it, I'll remove it.
Slight formating error, and what does this do?

Maxing Intelligence and Perception seem like pretty good ideas, specially Perception. We might need to raise Occult if we buy Sorcery, no?

Also, improved Demon Summoning for 25 XP sounds like a bargain.
It's only 17 xp for the improved demon summoning (the parenthesis are cumulative, and are for keeping track of what we're doing), and we're already training occult. The charm lets us create homebrew demons out of ourselves, and is the prerequisite for letting our souls outside. We can't buy the charm to let our souls out until we hit Essence 4, but I think it's best to set the foundation early.
 
Lelouch, as in the show, is already pretty much Conviction 5. This is just codifying that. If people don't like it, I'll remove it.
I would, respectfully, disagree. If you could promise to heal Nunnally's legs and eyes, Lelouch would give up anything for it, except perhaps in the last episodes of R2. That is not the sign of someone with insanely high conviction. I agree with Lulu having conviction four, but five is meant to be 'mental disorder' levels of insanity.
 
I would, respectfully, disagree. If you could promise to heal Nunnally's legs and eyes, Lelouch would give up anything for it, except perhaps in the last episodes of R2. That is not the sign of someone with insanely high conviction. I agree with Lulu having conviction four, but five is meant to be 'mental disorder' levels of insanity.
Well yes, but then Nunnally is higher on his list of priorities, so I'm not sure that that counts...
 
Expensive. That would require 49 XP or so.
I don't mean all at once, just working toward that.
Slight formating error, and what does this do?

Maxing Intelligence and Perception seem like pretty good ideas, specially Perception. We might need to raise Occult if we buy Sorcery, no?

Also, improved Demon Summoning for 25 XP sounds like a bargain.
Needs to be at 3 for the minimum, and I think we're still at 1 dot, so we've got a while to train for it.
Might want to hold off on getting Sorcery until we fit the prereq for the Charm. Save the XP.
 
[X] XP Plan Enjou

Finish current training with highest priority.

Further training...

Willpower: Add 3 to total of 10 (9 XP, Immediate)

Attributes
Intelligence (7 XP, 1 Month)

Abilities
Performance - Add 1 dot, maxed to 5 (3 XP, Immediate)
Archery/Firearms - Add 1 dot, go to 3 total (4 XP, 6 days)
Dodge - Add 1 dot, go to 2 total (4 XP, 6 days)

Charms (in order to train)

Eldritch Secrets Mastery (Ebon Dragon - 8 XP, 3 Days)
Seeing Is Blindness (Ebon Dragon - 8 XP, 3 Days)
Nemesis Self Imagined Anew (Ebon Dragon - 8 XP, 2 Days)
Impossible Dragon Constitution (Oramus, 8 XP, 2 Days)
Flesh of Horrible Hallucinations (Oramus, 8 XP, 2 Days)
Living Paradox (Oramus, 8 XP, 3 Days)
By Pain Reforged (Malfeas, 10 XP, 4 Days)
Scar-Writ Saga Shield (Malfeas, 10 XP, 4 Days)
Preposterous Molding of Zero (Oramus - 8 XP, 2 Days)

Cost: 103 XP


Ok, as always this is subject to change through discussion. Things may be removed or added.

Reasoning:
1. Reason for Willpower is obvious - we can always use more of it.
2. Intelligence is one of the things we use most often. Buffing it will help on War and Lore rolls. Starting to build it up seems like a good idea.
3. Performance we want to up for future speeches. Firearms and Dodge for combat.
4. Ok, now the important thing where the bulk of the XP is going - Charms.
- Eldritch Secrets Mastery is a really important Charm for us, as it lets us disguise what kind of Exalt we are. We can't just keep disguising ourself as a random goon. There will be situations where we'll need to be a Dragonblooded or something else.
- Seeing Is Blindness is a really good Charm, as it lets us blind our opponents. That could be really good in combat, especially if we're supporting someone else.
- For the Oramus Charms, I'd like to start going down the Wyld tree. Of particular interest is Living Paradox, which makes us immune to all magical diseases and magical poisons. Given Abyssal Bonesaw is apparently running around somewhere, I want immunity to the Great Contagion.
- By Pain Reforged to make Lelouch harder to take down in combat, and Countless Cities Clotting so Lelouch has a method of healing quickly. (Kaguya can supplement healing as well, but she can't have Lelouch up in a day in the event of really bad wounds - though with her healing boost the natural recovery rate is phenomenal even without spending motes) EDIT - have to get Scar-Writ Saga Shield before getting Countless Cities Clotting, so switched to that. We'll get CCC later.
- Preposterous Molding of Zero so we have a Shaping defense against the more powerful Geass users out there, and to stop Shaping attacks in general.

EDIT - I know some people asked about sorcery, but I don't see it as a priority at the moment. Rakshata has it, and she can summon demons if we ask her to.
 
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I don't mean all at once, just working toward that.

Needs to be at 3 for the minimum, and I think we're still at 1 dot, so we've got a while to train for it.
Might want to hold off on getting Sorcery until we fit the prereq for the Charm. Save the XP.
I thought we didn't need to climb up the dots like that?

What about getting one more dot of Stamina, and, maybe, Strenght? They are fairly cheap, and it would bring us to "non-specced Exalt average" from what I've seen from the other char sheets.
 
Needs to be at 3 for the minimum, and I think we're still at 1 dot, so we've got a while to train for it.
Not for Sorcerous Enlightenment of Yozi. It only requires Essence 3, which we have.
I would, respectfully, disagree. If you could promise to heal Nunnally's legs and eyes, Lelouch would give up anything for it, except perhaps in the last episodes of R2. That is not the sign of someone with insanely high conviction. I agree with Lulu having conviction four, but five is meant to be 'mental disorder' levels of insanity.
If he thought that burning the planet down was what Nunnally would want him to do, he would do it. He currently thinks she wants world peace and the destruction of Brittania, and so those are the goals he works for.

Okay, as for the plan, I've been looking at the Ebon Dragon's charms, and I found some really good charms we should probably pick up. We can't pick up all of them, so I put them into two groups; Social, and Combat. Both get Fate-Rending Desperation (decrease target number for a success by 1 for a scene in exchange for getting it increased by +1 for the rest of the day), Nemesis Self Imagined Anew (allows us to quickly increase our essence) and Life-Denying Hate (a spirit killer, in case we run into any gods).

The Combat side will massively increase our ability to attack from range and surprise, and lets us hit out targets with nasty poisons and effects, enough that we would possibly have been able to solo Aiko. The Social side gets us Our Little Secret, which will help us prevent the Black Knights from being infiltrated, and much of the Golden Years Tarnished Black tree, which lets us easily sow dissent in the Brittanian ranks. They can't really fight us when they all hate each other and are plotting to kill each other, can they? I'm voting for Social, as we already have enough combat exalts coming, but I understand if people want to vote for Combat, so I'm leaving it as an option.

[] Notanautomaton 1.3 'Combat'
-Sorcerous Enlightenment of the Ebon Dragon (8)
--Slave-Spawn Summons (Effectively a better Demon of the First Circle for Infernals only) when that's finished training in 3 days. (17)
-Intelligence (Lulu is going to start trying to pay attention in class. He might as well, he can't keep skipping. Also, he's going to be teaching his souls during class when it gets too boring.) ( [24] 17, as it won't take effect for a while)
-Titanic Spawn Uncountable ([34] 17, as it won't take effect for a while )
-Increase Willpower to 10 (43)
-Fate-Rending Desperation
-Nemesis Self Imagined Anew
-Life-Denying Hate
-Hollowing Echo Venom
-Piercing Darkness Fingers
-Escape the Dawn
-Sulking Shadow Shintai
-Seeing Is Blindness
--Agony of Unwise Adversity ([22] 107)

[x] Notanautomaton 1.3 'Social'
-Sorcerous Enlightenment of the Ebon Dragon (8)
--Slave-Spawn Summons (Effectively a better Demon of the First Circle for Infernals only) when that's finished training in 3 days. (17)
-Intelligence (Lulu is going to start trying to pay attention in class. He might as well, he can't keep skipping. Also, he's going to be teaching his souls during class when it gets too boring.) ([24] 17)
-Firearms to 3
-Dodge to 3
-Titanic Spawn Uncountable ([34] 17)
-Increase Willpower to 10 (44)
-Fate-Rending Desperation
-Nemesis Self Imagined Anew
-Life-Denying Hate
-Golden Years Tarnished Black
--Everything Gets worse
--Bible of Broken Truths
--Unreasoning Prejudice Infliction
--Dark Claws Seize Dark Hearts
-Our Little Secret ([122] 107)

[x] Continue training what we already are in addition to it.
 
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@notanautomaton - you don't need an X for each line item. The GM said in the update "But you can vote to change it and have Lelouch train in something else. Just use "[ X ]" followed by your plan."

Just look at what I did as an example.
 
@notanautomaton - you don't need an X for each line item. The GM said in the update "But you can vote to change it and have Lelouch train in something else. Just use "[ X ]" followed by your plan."

Just look at what I did as an example.
A few questions about your Plan:
Didn't you want to add an offensive Malfeas charm (Green Sun Burst?) but lacked XP the first time? Why not now? And where is that awesome one that deals damage if the target tries to Dodge or parry? I few we really need a personal offense option. Demon Puddle proved that the Hellcaster doesn't cut it, thus why I'm recently asking about Sorcery. We should also get a new rifle or two, for missions like these.

Wouldn't this be a good time to learn MA? Or Sorcery?

Isn't Nemesis Self Imagined Anew up there on our priority list, to allow us to quickly raise Essence levels? Btw, is there any special requisite to raise Essence to 5 (and above) and atributes to 6 (and above)?
 
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We're far more likely to run into a god, ghost, or demon that needs killing than we are to run into a geass user. And a lot of Geass's wouldn't be Shaping, like the mind reading Geass, or the combat precog Geass.
Actually, they all are. And we have assumption of Mu for if they aren't, so it doesn't matter anyway.
 
Actually, they all are. And we have assumption of Mu for if they aren't, so it doesn't matter anyway.
How is 'I read your mind' Shaping? It doesn't change anything about the target. How is combat precog shaping? It doesn't change anything about the target. And Assumption of Mu (partially) blocks those anyways. The fact is, we're unlikely to run into any Geass or Shaping effects for a while at the current point in the game. While we should get it eventually, things that can help us right now are far more important.
 
I added increasing Firearms and Dodge to my plan.

In my opinion, the problem with plan Enjou is that it wants us to generalize far too much, and in a suboptimal way. We're primarily a social character, so if we get combat stuff, we should be getting it cheaply from our favored Yozis, not expensively from Malfeas.
 
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