SirLagginton
Shadow Cabal Caerbannog Bun-Bun
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Well I have ideas, do you want me to present them here?
Green Sun, Black Shadows (CG/Exalted)
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Alexander89
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Sure thing.
Thank you kindly.
Everything you said is entirely true, and Dr. Tollenmach will probably come around to that way of thinking eventually. Still, in his heart at this moment, he's given up on the system. He'll flip-flop around on his stance on things once he realizes his dreams of reform are not doomed entirely, and probably bounce around about what his ultimate long-term plans are to achieve his goals. Even though he's been pretty good at building his power, he's pretty lousy about actually pointing it in a direction.
As for Cecelyne, looking at her excellency it seems I've mis-remembered a few bits (I could have sworn there was a bit about no lasting generosity in there), I stand corrected.
He's built for Long-term plots he doesn't have the Conviction to stick with...which means the obvious solution is to have multiple long-term but contradictory plots.
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Tzeentch would be so proud. *Sniff*
meianmaru
The Devourer of Fiction
Okay, that was an interesting Infernal from a different than usual mold in this quest. I must admit, my face was like this
immediately after I saw whose image you were using. Will he also start practicing some sort of supernatural version of Bajiquan and learn some random thaumathurgical tricks? Considering that he has TED as his Favored Yozi, breaking people with horrifying-yet-awesome speeches should already be feasible...
Alexander89
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lol
I get the feeling that as doctor he's good...as a politician? Not so much. For him I recoded making a team with an Infernal who is good at long-term plans.Anyway, the current list of Infernals is:
Slayer - 5/10
Malefactor - 5/10
Defiler - 4/10
Scourge - 5/10
Fiend - 5/10
Malfeas (2/7) - Charlie (Slayer), Ernst Lehrmann (Slayer)
Cecelyne (3/6) - George Tollenmach (Defiler), Rodrigo Gomez (Malefactor), Gabriel Rohawn (Malefactor)
She Who Live in Her Name (1/6) - Akio Murakami (Slayer)
Adorjan (2/6) - Imaginary (Fiend), Tarana Cheshire (Scourge)
Ebon Dragon (2/6) - Reinart Ellis (Fiend), Emilio Agnelli (Malefactor)
Kimbery (2/2) - Nadir Yilmaz (Scourge)(2)(3)(4), Yuno Gasai (Scourge)
Cytherea (1/2) - Rakshata Chawla (Defiler)
Metagaos (1/2) - Lian (Scourge)
Szorney (2/2)- Kaguya Sumeragi (Malefactor), Lydia Vladimirovna Litvyak (Slayer)
Isidoros (1/2) - Akito Hyuga (Slayer)
Elloge (2/2) - Nathan Coulter (Defiler), Maxwell (Fiend)
Hegra (2/2) - Milly Ashford (Scourge), Melody Wright (Defiler)
Mardukth (1/2) - Yelena Ferapont (Malefactor)
Ta'akozoka (1/2) - Andres Granados de Seral (Fiend)
Oramus (1/1)* - Lelouch vi Britannia (Fiend)
It seems it's an even split of Castes. I find it telling that Kimbery ends up with two Scourge: very telling about her priorities, I say
SirLagginton
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Well okay, as a core conceit I'm thinking of a grumpy old grandpa who despite his sometimes difficult personality is widely famed for his supernal generalship, combat prowess, and ironclad code of honor and ethics. He only caught the tail-end of the Primordial War, but made his name during the Aftershock War and the innumerable Raksha invasions, in which his territories acted as one of the core bulwarks against the tides of Unreality. During onset of the Fall, he got more and more tyrannical, hyper-militarising his territories for their "own good", despite the increasingly harsh taxes and limitations on their freedom. He and Andreas Darlton probably would find a lot in common.
Also have a picture.
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Alexander89
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Sound like a perfect role modelWell okay, as a core conceit I'm thinking of a grumpy old grandpa who despite his sometimes difficult personality is widely famed for his supernal generalship, combat prowess, and ironclad code of honor and ethics. He only caught the tail-end of the Primordial War, but made his name during the Aftershock War and the innumerable Raksha invasions, in which his territories acted as one of the core bulwarks against the tides of Unreality. During onset of the Fall, he got more and more tyrannical, hyper-militarising his territories for their "own good", despite the increasingly harsh taxes and limitations on their freedom. He and Andreas Darlton probably would find a lot in common.
Also have a picture.
. What would he think of Lydia working for the Yozi?
SirLagginton
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Very, very unhappy. He knows exactly what the return of the Primordials would mean for humanity, and has zero interest in what that would entail. He was also alive during the time the Unconquered Sun still walked among men, and despite his bitter disappointment at the way Sol Invictus cut his Exalted off he is still very much loyal to the ideals he embodies (especially since he's not longer under the influence of the Great Curse). That said, none of his antagonism against the Primordials would extend to Lydia, who is simply a girl who was at the wrong place at the wrong time and is in fact far more heroic than many of his fellow First Age Solars. I imagine that he would act as a grandfather figure to Lydia, and using his influence to get her to switch over. He's not a fool about it, he knows what invoking Hell's wrath would mean for her, but ultimately he intends to return Sol Invictus' chosen to her rightful place.Sound like a perfect role model
Eh, he's hardly meant to be the worst guy. He's not nearly as bad as General Andres Granados de Seral, anyways. Do remember that these two nuns were already in love with him even before the locust mana came into play. Really, he could have seduced the two of them months ago if he had the inclination. That said, he does actually care about them being happy (and believe me, they have absolutely no complaints about the situation, small bed aside) and he wants his flock to be happy too - Compassion is his highest virtue, and one of the major reasons he couldn't quit being a priest in spite of wanting to.
The real issue is that the Ebon Dragon picked out his Coadjutor, so now he's got a voice in his head that wants him to indulge himself in things he didn't really think about overly much before. She also may not have told him that eating his own locust mana causes an Intimacy of smug self-satisfaction to form. He's also likely to end up unlocking the powers of Isidoros later on. So yeah, he's going to be a hedonistic and to a degree corrupt guy that's quite like the people in the church he loathed so much (as he knows, he's a hypocrite and a liar) but he'll never go full on evil because he actually cares about other people's happiness. He's just flawed, much in the way Lelouch is, and that makes him more interesting.
Well, I could use a different one if it gives you more pleasant images.
But anyways, I wanted him to have a character that would have enough of a dark side that he's a rather grey one. Flawed heroes is what Exalted is all about.
Haven't found one, but they were meant to be minor characters in the grand scheme of things so I didn't think it was all that imporant. They're identical twins, have orange hair, violet eyes, generous curves, and are twenty years old. They'd probably be Appearance 3, though Exaltation may have bumped them up to Appearance 4 which could be why Gabriel had a harder time resisting. Personality-wise, I'd say they're normally a bit spunky but kind, and the whole thing about becoming a nun is because they didn't really have any other options once their father determined they wouldn't Exalt and were therefore useless. (while they were believers, they really only pretended on being as devout as they did because they had a handsome priest they wanted to impress) I might find something later, but the exact description might be hard to find a picture for.
Okay, that was an interesting Infernal from a different than usual mold in this quest. I must admit, my face was like this
The martial art is up to Alexander, but he'll definitely learn some thaumathurgical tricks tricks, I think.
Anyways, I imagine he's going to rise in position in the church through a combination of blackmail, bribes, and other hypocritical and dishonest means. Our Little Secret is going to be a Charm he'll use a lot once he learns it, I think. He's going to outplay the corrupt Britannian Church at their own game.
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
Oh, well, Nevermind...
Those nuns are still victims of mind control, but it's not nearly as bad as mind controlling somebody into breaking their deeply held religious beliefs and/by then effectively raping them.
Still don't like him, though.
Alexander89
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No, he's okay. I was just surprisedWell, I could use a different one if it gives you more pleasant images.
Talking about Malefactor: Enjou, remember when you discussed the Judge soul for Lelouch, and decided it was better for Cecelyne?
Well I would like to discuss about that, because I find a Cecelyne-Lelouch meeting very interesting, and how a soul from that Yozi may come out. How do you see said meeting play out?
ReaperofInterest
Herald of Disaster
How does the Past Life mechanic work, precisely? Is it just a voice in your head at all levels, or is that something for 3 or higher?
No, he's okay. I was just surprised
Talking about Malefactor: Enjou, remember when you discussed the Judge soul for Lelouch, and decided it was better for Cecelyne?
Well I would like to discuss about that, because I find a Cecelyne-Lelouch meeting very interesting, and how a soul from that Yozi may come out. How do you see said meeting play out?
Lelouch: Britannia sucks.
Cecelyne: Yes, but the strong rule the weak. It's a fact.
Lelouch: ...
Cecelyne: You disagree? Name one time in history where the strong didn't rule over the weak.
Lelouch: *checks vast history knowledge* There were a few revolutions...
Cecelyne: Strength of numbers. Enough ants can kill a man.
Lelouch: Fine then. The strong rule the weak. I acknowledge it. But it's not fair!
Cecelyne: Nope. I used to be fair, but the Exalted killed my sense of fairness, and it'll stay dead so long as the world isn't fair.
Lelouch: Then I'll make it fair!
Cecelyne: Oh? How?
Lelouch: By becoming stronger than anyone else and crushing everyone who tries to stop me!
Cecelyne: ... ... ... *laughs maniacally* How delightfully hypocritical!
meianmaru
The Devourer of Fiction
This brough back to my mind a homebrew TED Charm which would descend from Our Little Secret that I have had bouncing in my head for some time now. I have tentatively named it "My Dark Secret".
It would work somewhat like Righteous Lion Defense by its mechanics: The player chooses one thing about their character that they want to hide from everyone who doesn't already know about it. This can be a deed they have done (for example, a murder), their true feelings about some person (wanting to kill/usurp/etc. someone, or perhaps the love they feel towards someone) or their true nature (like being an Exalt).
After they have chosen something, they get ability to perfectly lie about that subject, with other perfect effects challenging it causing roll-off where the Infernal gets their Essence in automatic successes. The Infernal treats any influence trying to force or manipulate them to reveal about the subject, directly or indirectly, as unacceptable order. The Charm would suffer from the Imperfection of the Ebon Dragon. It could be repurchased like Righteous Lion Defense, giving the character a second secret they could protect.
However, to voluntarily reveal any information about it in any way, they would have to pay their current Essence in Willpower, to the usual maximum of five points. But they aren't under a compulsion to actively suppress information spread by other people, so someone in the know can just tell it to others in the Infernal's stead.
As to the reason why I had this idea, well, I thought it would be nice to have something ready the next time we meet an Unquestionable, considering what has been going around with Lelouch's souls.
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You have memories of at least one past Exaltation. If the memories are strong enough, they may manifest as a separate personality, especially during times of great stress. And in your dreams. Said personality may not be happy you betrayed humanity to the Yozis, and will act based on its own motivations.
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Uhh, guys I don't know if it's been pointed out and I missed it or if I'm just stupid for not taking it as obvious, but that woman who was flirting with us? Almost certainly the Lunar who was sent to Japan. Now whether she's realized we're not a normal mortal is up in the air, but she almost certainly took some note of us, even if only subconsciously realizing Lelouch is pretty much inhumanly attractive at this point. Given she suddenly got called away, I assume her mentor called her for something or another which is sort of ominous in and of itself.
Edit: Okay apparently people commented on it earlier and I completely forgot reading over that. But I'm still surprised how quickly people moved past the fact we just met a Lunar, and most likely gave her an Obsession/Rapt Fascination intimacy from looking her in the eyes (DGP) and Beautiful In My Own Way. Not to mention she could realize the Obvious effect of our eyes or something.
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Be interesting if someone created a Heretical Charm to turn those separate personalities into Deva's in your Fourth Soul Domain.
Strange thought, but maybe someone could build on that to create something like Harry Potter's Fidelius spell.
Hide one secret from everyone, and only the person using the charm can reveal it.
Vaalintine
Wild Wondorous Wolfalope
I mean the King in Yellow in general. The book, the play, the film, and the Great Old One known as Hastur, who I totally get vibes of from one of Oramus' Shintai.
TKiY (the play) also supposedly spreads like a virus, spreading madness and unholy knowledge in a way that I think fits Oramus. For a particularly disturbing (but SFW) example check out the comic "Quality Time".
TKiY (the play) also supposedly spreads like a virus, spreading madness and unholy knowledge in a way that I think fits Oramus. For a particularly disturbing (but SFW) example check out the comic "Quality Time".
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
Don't we already have a couple of memetic charms? I know for sure there's a meme we can make which hacks any closed system it's in.
Vaalintine
Wild Wondorous Wolfalope
Correct, the memetic invasion charm. It compels those who percieve it to reproduce it. Combined with the hidden revelation charm we could turn the meme into something nasty, if we encode My Dark Lady into it.
Actually, that seems more like a Heretical Shintai that combines Oramus' madness and unholy knowledge with SWLIHN's mind virus aspect.
I thought that our current setting was far into the future, well beyond any exalted lifespan? Even Chejop is long-dead IIRC.
Soul-Eroding Production allows the Infernal to create a unique piece of art that twists people's minds. Repurchase also lets you teleport to the location where it's performed.
So you can write "The King in Verdigris" and everyone in the audience gains a derangement of "this skin isn't mine" and begins clawing it off. Then the Infernal detects that it is being played and teleports to the location. Everyone asks him to remove his mask as they have theirs, to which he replies "I wear no mask."
Past Lives Background, I think...
Ah, well, that's what I get for not reading the entire convo.