Green Sun, Black Shadows (CG/Exalted)

It might work, but if it fails then it could backfire spectacularly. Also, the problem still stands that Lelouch doesn't even know Suzaku is alive, so while Fate might have an altered schedule it's likely that Euphie will show up in his life well before he finds that out.
True, I did say it was working and there is no guaruntee we can get to him before he meets Euphie. I still think its the most liable to work, even if failure has the biggest consequences. Even if it does fail, the narrative would be pretty entertaining as two old friends despair over each other choices.
 
Alright I'm going to suggest something that may seem a little crazy, but what if we, preferably before Euphie shows up, reveal who Zero is to Suzaku to try and get him on our side. It would be a lot easier to convince him with "I know my father, while he or Schniezel sits on the throne the change we want will never be realized" than "join me and we can overthrow Brittania" . It would probably lose us our excellencies for the roll but we could probably play up the intimacy Suzaku has for Lelouch. We have better odds getting Suzaku to realize that Brittania is too monolithic and the people in charge are so against change for internal efforts to change them. He would have a lot harder time gainsaying us when he knows for a fact we are far more familiar with the way Brittania runs than he is. To only possible counter he has is we're doing this for revenge, which is sort of true but we can always reply about making a world that is safe for Nunally, a world she can be proud of/participate in.
I doubt it would work. Suzaku is a die-hard "work within the system" kind of guy. And Euphemia is the same way. Her Special Zone plan took the wind out of Zero's sails by offering a compromise that too many people were willing to take. Suzaku will latch onto that like velcro.

We'd have to straight up mindrape him to have him fight the system.
 
How difficult would it be for us to "straight up mindrape him" given our potential powers? I know that Ouramos and the Ebon Dragon provide a wide variety of mental influence charms but I am not sure how effective they would be in terms of making Suzaku our minion.
 
How difficult would it be for us to "straight up mindrape him" given our potential powers? I know that Ouramos and the Ebon Dragon provide a wide variety of mental influence charms but I am not sure how effective they would be in terms of making Suzaku our minion.
Golden Years Tarnished Black to make his years of doing well under Brittanian rule to seem like abject suffering under a maniacal tyrant.
Words That Twist Like Daggers to give him Derangements against orderly systems? Pathological urges to kill politicians?
 
I am well aware of the ability of the Ebon Dragon to twist his memories and make him into a deranged monster. I am more interested in learning about the feasibility of rewriting his memories or altering his intimacies in such a manner as to make him into a reliable and sane subordinate. Is such a transformation possible within the bounds of the charmset of Ouramos and the Ebon Dragon?
 
Golden Years Tarnished Black to make his years of doing well under Brittanian rule to seem like abject suffering under a maniacal tyrant.
Words That Twist Like Daggers to give him Derangements against orderly systems? Pathological urges to kill politicians?
But would Lelouch really want to use UMI against his closest friend? It seems severely out of character. Even ordering Suzaku to "Live" in canon only happened under severe duress, and he regretted doing so afterwards despite doing it at least in part for Suzaku's sake.
 
I doubt it would work. Suzaku is a die-hard "work within the system" kind of guy. And Euphemia is the same way. Her Special Zone plan took the wind out of Zero's sails by offering a compromise that too many people were willing to take. Suzaku will latch onto that like velcro.

We'd have to straight up mindrape him to have him fight the system.
How difficult would it be for us to "straight up mindrape him" given our potential powers? I know that Ouramos and the Ebon Dragon provide a wide variety of mental influence charms but I am not sure how effective they would be in terms of making Suzaku our minion.

Lelouch was rather against using his Geass on Suzaku in canon until he was literally forced into a do or die situation. The biggest thing would be working against the Intimacy he has towards Suzaku to do any proper mind raping. Once past that though, there's tons of options. Inflict a proper derangement, see if Kaguya can get him to eat some candied locust-mana (mind you he'd start thinking the strong should rule the weak, but damn would Kaguya seem like a goddess), or tons of other things.

What we might be able to do is pump a crapload of motes into Ebon Dragon First Excellency and convince him that by supporting Britannia from within, even with the intent to change it, that he's really just helping them oppress people.

Golden Years Tarnished Black to make his years of doing well under Brittanian rule to seem like abject suffering under a maniacal tyrant.

Considering those years probably aren't positive memories for him for the most part, that Charm wouldn't really work. His battle to change Britannia from within hadn't really made any progress, and he was still discriminated against by others in the army - he just dealt with it as part of his perceived atonement.

Words That Twist Like Daggers to give him Derangements against orderly systems? Pathological urges to kill politicians?

That derangement would get Suzaku killed, which isn't what Lelouch would want.

Seeing hallucinations of his father's ghost telling him to support the Japanese people might work better. Or seeing visions of Britannian soldiers murdering Japanese children, only for one of the soldiers to take off his mask and show Suzaku's own face.
 
In canon is it ever implied Lelouch knows Suzaku is looking for an excuse to die? I'm pretty sure he realized when he ordered Suzaku to live, but if we can leverage that knowledge as either Zero or Lelouch we might get him to stop denying his Martyr complex. I'm kinda sad we can't actually do that, was one of the cooler moments in the series IMO.
 
In canon is it ever implied Lelouch knows Suzaku is looking for an excuse to die? I'm pretty sure he realized when he ordered Suzaku to live, but if we can leverage that knowledge as either Zero or Lelouch we might get him to stop denying his Martyr complex. I'm kinda sad we can't actually do that, was one of the cooler moments in the series IMO.
I don't think Lelouch ever really made the connection until sometime during season 2. When exactly in unsure, though, but it's obvious he does know by the end.
 
Be careful about sacrificing huge things like "arrogance" or "weakness." Those would probably qualify for Adamant Circle and would drastically remake his personality. Sacrifice your arrogance and you may become unsure and cowardly. Sacrifice your 'weakness' and you may become foolhardy and disdainful of the weak.
Note I said 'arrogance.'
Arrogance is... well...
If confidence was an Exalted Virtue, arrogance would be four or five dots in it.

It's confidence taken too far.

As long as loosing his arrogance doesn't make him lacking in confidence.
 
Pantheon Heresy is fun and opens up a lot of options for us. Making our own soldiers en-masse would be a fantastic asset. On a meta-level, I disagree with several of the charms that are labeled "Pantheon" because of the rationale behind them, but that's probably not relevant. For Oramus, I think he needs a new charm, probably built off his "playing with Wyld" tree. One that makes devas out of the Wyld, then a repurchase that makes them real? Or perhaps an expansion off Reality-Raking Claws that lets you spend the essence-whispers to create devas/demons.

Here's a rough suggestion for an Oramus pantheon charm:

Calling Playwright's Assistants
Cost: 10 motes, 1 willpower
Mins: Essence 3
Repurchases: Essence 4
Duration: Instant
Type: Simple
Keywords: Shaping, Obvious, Pantheon
Prerequisite Charms: Sheltering the Troupe

A playwright may produce a masterpiece to awe and terrify the audience, but how is he to perform without stagehands? Weaving together loose streams of essence from a Wyld zone, the Infernal creates a spirit of the First Circle to assist him. The demon begins with an intimacy of loyalty towards the Infernal, but is not obligated to follow his commands. If the spirit is a unique creation, the player should work with the Storyteller to ensure it is of appropriate strength. However, the demon is bound to the stage where it was born; should it leave the Wyld zone (or should the Wyld zone be terminated), it is immediately banished to Malfeas as if targeted by emerald-circle banishment. Repurchase at Essence 4 strengthens the bond between actor and director, allowing the demon to follow the Infernal out into the world.

Thoughts?
It's interesting, but there is already Sublectic Beast Invocation that does that. Also, like that Charm of Cecelyne, creating demons should cost Xp.

By my humble opinion, likely candidates (in the Charms Shop), are:
1) Masque Of Hollow Faces
2) Glimpsed Through A Warped Mirror
3) Fractured Mind Empowerment
4) Muse of Unearthly Delights
5) Nightmares Glanced Through Mind's Eye
6) Midnight's Shadow Scars
7) Pyreflame Footlights
8) Bright Costumes and Bold Makeup

EDIT: Thematically, a Pantheon Charm can be explained as birthing an additional soul that provides the effects of the Charm when you use it. Moreover said soul, if manifested with Fourth Soul Devil Domain, will take the theme of the Charm and the Yozi it belongs to. Not completely so of course.
So, I've been reading up a bit on sorcery and we'll probably want Lelouch to get initiated to at least the first level at some point. The big issue is passing the five trials required.

Trial of humility - Might already be completed. Maybe. Lelouch... well, he consideres Milly's antics normality.
Trial of tutelage - shouldn't be any problem finding someone in Malfeas to teach us stuff.
Trial of journey - Might already be completed. Before being invaded, I think he had some measure of appreciation for Japan, or at the very least he was able to appreciate that he could make friends with Suzaku because of his change of location.
Trial of fear - Again, another maybe. Lelouch fears his father, and he fears losing Nunally, though those fears are intertwined to a degree. Still, in spite of his fear he isn't taking things lying down. He's out to destroy Britannia and is honestly working towards that goal, so he might have mastered his fear to an extent. If we're not past this one, I'm not sure exactly what we'd need to do.
Trial of sacrifice - This one is most definitely not passed, as the sacrifice needs to be for the point of learning sorcery. The question here is what are we willing to sacrifice? We've got a bunch of siblings who are total shits and Lelouch would sacrifice the hell out of them, though I'm not sure that counts as a sacrifice or not since Lelouch doesn't actually value them, even if doing so is certainly terrible. Anyone have thoughts on this one?
For the Emerald Circle, the sacrifice required is not quite so drastic. Otherwise being a sorcerer wouldn't be as widespread as it is. To facilitate your decisions I will list some examples of valid Emerald Sacrifices:
When he first learned of the development of sorcery, Thrice-Radiant Misho realised the utility of such power, for he remembered the potency of the primordials and knew that even a fraction of their power could form the greatest tool, the greatest shield and the greatest sword of all. He pondered the sacrifice required to take his first step into such a larger world, and so he took his own sword - the oldest and least of all that he possessed, but one that was precious to him; for it was the first real blade he had ever owned, presented to him by his mortal teacher an Age ago. At the end of his sorceror's journey, he threw the sword into the sea and walked away. For the sacrifice of this precious memento, Misho gained the power of the Emerald Circle of Sorcery.
A trinket that is cherished but useless is a good sacrifice. In the case of Lelouch, if he has a photo of him, Marianne and Nunnally when they were all happy sacrificing it works, as it also represent his acceptance the past is gone and one can only move forward.
One of my Solar players gave up a Hearthstone for his Terrestrial initiation, but I'm opposed to the idea of merely trading loot for power, so I pulled a fast one on him. The stone came from a small First Age workshop-manse used by his first incarnation, so rather than just giving up the stone, he gave up the right to be the hearthstone bearer of that Manse.
Sacrificing an advantage you already have to accept the greater possibilities offered by Sorcery also work. Especially if it has a connection considered "heavy".
 
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Pantheon Heresy is fun and opens up a lot of options for us. Making our own soldiers en-masse would be a fantastic asset.

Actually, you can't use Pantheon charms for that. The demons you make are trapped in your soul, and you need to summon them the same way that
a normal demon. And while that has some advantages (Specially once you start having 2º circle demon souls, that probably are more loyal than any other 2º circle you may summon), you can't make an army out of it. They are basically nWOD Goetic demons, made out of your intimacies.

Will there be any Shintai charms?

The two shintai charms that are in the tree are pretty cool. Ornamental Lunatic Pyre Shintai (I love this name, it's right out of Touhou) turns you into a traveling Wyld zone, letting you shift forms with insane speed, being a mortal man one moment and a mile-wide toothy maw the next, then shifting into a tree with razor-roots whipping about. And everyone who isn't on your "nice" list is probably going to come down with a serious case of brains-turned-into-rocks.

Crimson King Shintai turns you into Hastur, the King in Yellow (colors!). You become a mass combat unit, capable of affecting huge groups of people, can teleport anywhere you perceive as well as anywhere someone performs/appreciates a piece of art you produced.
 
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Interlude
Interlude

01:00, Shinjuku

The young woman pants as she pushes herself harder and harder, her legs burning from exhaustion and her breath labored. Yet she endures, holding tight the bundle in her arms.

"RAAAAAGH!!!"

For if she stops, only death will await her.

Howling like a tortured beast a being who was once a man chases after her, restless in its pursuit. It has the appearance of a middle-aged man dressed in poor clothes, the front stained with blood and the holes left from an automatic firearm. Its skin is pale and sunken, and its eyes are glowing with an eerie gray light, fixed on the fleeing woman with hate...and hunger.

The woman keeps running, but it is night and the streets are littered with rubble from the recent skirmish. Inevitably she steps on one small rock, causing her to stumble and fall down with an yelp. The bundle comes undone, and its contents of clocks and other house amenities scatter around.

The thing slows down, gazing with nostalgia at the items before focusing back on the woman, hands stiffened into claws and jaws open, panting.

"No please! Please forgive me!" The woman pleads, crying and crawling back. "I didn't want to disturb you...but I had no choice! Without things to sell I will not be able to feed my sons!"

The thing's answer is to howl and jumps at the woman, teeth bare and hungry for life.

A flash of silver, and a knife buries itself into the thing's tongue, skewering through the lower jaw.

"Not so fast!"

Someone kicks the thing from the side, pushing it down on the ground. Still reeling from the pain it is powerless to stop the assailant from reaching to the knife, ripping it out and pushing it down again, slashing the thing's jugular open.

The woman stares widen-eyed at the one who saved her: a beautiful young woman with long, straight, platinum blond hair, wearing skimpy clothing consisting of high-heeled sandals, denim shorts, a tube top that exposes her abdomen and a blue jacket.

She swings the knife to get rid of the blood before putting it back in its sheath. "You shouldn't steal from the dead." She says without turning to face the other woman.

The thief winces in shame. But before she can defend her actions a stack of bills lands in front of her feet. "Use that instead. Now go, this place is dangerous."

"T-Thank you! Thank you so much!" The woman picks up the money and bows before running away.

"Weelll." The blonde woman scratches her and look down at the items and the corpse. "Should I give him a proper burial?"

"Just pour salt on the body and bury the items near it." A new voice says. Following it a black cat walks to the side of the woman and sits down. Tail twitching lazily it looks up at her with soulful green eyes. Then it speaks. "We don't have time to waste."

"Yes, yes. Whatever you say teacher." She replies with a roll of her eyes before she kneels down and begins collecting the items. "What we are ever doing here in Japan?"

"Scouting of course." The cat simply says.

She stops and turns around. "For what? This Shadowland is recent and the others are too small to be of any real threat. While the ones in Argentina are-"

"I know that very well." The cat interrupts sternly. It seems to ponder for a few seconds before continuing. "However, many of the New Moon Elders seem to think something will soon happen here, in Japan."

"Something what?"

"Something important."

"Yeah? How very helpful." She snorts.

The cat glares at her, a silver-white disk glittering above its brows.

"Relax teacher. You know me, I will do my part. Or my name-" She winks and points at herself. "Is not Anja Silverclaws!"

Interlude - End
 
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We'll have to be more cautious about scouting Shinjuku now, looks like. Hopefully C.C. can tell us something that isn't too outdated. She's lived for so long, she should be aware of at least the generalities of what the Exalted are doing in the present day, right?

This makes me wonder about who Lelouch's Lunar Mate is, though it might not matter with someone like him.
 
Hmmm, and I thought us stopping the massacre would prevent Shinjuku from becoming a Shadowland. Damn. Also, very interesting that Argentina apparently has larger Shadowlands. Britannia may well have an Abyssal on the home front.

Anja is a character from the Scroll of Exalts, I know that much. The Lunars have stuck their nose into our country. We'll need to keep an eye out.

Also, her teacher took the form of a black cat with soulful green eyes... did he kill and eat Arthur?
 
Hmmm, and I thought us stopping the massacre would prevent Shinjuku from becoming a Shadowland. Damn. Also, very interesting that Argentina apparently has larger Shadowlands. Britannia may well have an Abyssal on the home front.

Anja is a character from the Scroll of Exalts, I know that much. The Lunars have stuck their nose into our country. We'll need to keep an eye out.

Also, her teacher took the form of a black cat with soulful green eyes... did he kill and eat Arthur?
No its obviously the original Raidou Kuzunoha.

Also didn't Arthur have golden eyes?
 
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This makes me wonder about who Lelouch's Lunar Mate is, though it might not matter with someone like him.
As the lack of Past Life and Savant Background may hint, the former bearer of Lelouch's Exaltation died very young, and didn't left many memories in it.

Actually I am not sure I want to give anyone those Backgrounds, because I am not sure how to show/handle them.
Hmmm, and I thought us stopping the massacre would prevent Shinjuku from becoming a Shadowland. Damn. Also, very interesting that Argentina apparently has larger Shadowlands. Britannia may well have an Abyssal on the home front.
It seems that our intervention came too late, then.
The killing of many residents was the final nail to make Shinjuku a Shadowland. The killing of Britannian soldiers too.
 
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