I need to ask a question: taking into consideration how the culture of Britannia works, or at least how we think it works, how would an older woman (22-23 years) flirting and/or hitting on a younger man (17) be viewed?
Probably acceptable. Milly is arranged to marry Lloyd (who is 29) and Odysseus (who is 34) is to marry the Tianzi (who is 13 at the time) I don't think age matters quite as much in Britannian culture, though it's possible that only applies in the nobility. Also, it should be noted that Britannia accepts people of Lelouch's age in the military - Suzaku, Gino, and Anya as examples. As such, the age of majority may be 16 or 17, even if education normally continues at that point.
So, with only a four or five year age difference, it's probably acceptable, especially if it's only flirting. Relative social status likely does come into play, though. A commoner flirting with a noble could be dangerous, though that would depend on the noble. A noble flirting with a commoner is likely acceptable, as long as it's not too over the top or overly public if they are married. (given arranged marriages, nobles having lovers will be rather common) Things like Charisma and whatnot would also come into play regarding how it might be seen, as someone who is charismatic could get away with things someone boorish would be looked down for.
@Alexander89
Just had a thought.
Considering what he went through during the invasion, before he got to the Ashfords, should Lelouch have a dot in Survival?
I suspect that the Britannian attitude to age gaps in relationships is more old fashioned than in our world (i.e. 'Appropriate age gaps? What are those?'), from what we see of their culture. So I doubt there'd be any real raised eyebrows.
So from what I've gathered of shintai ideas for szoreny so far we have: becoming a forest/static location that expands gradually, allowing one to apply various effects from szoreny charms to beings near/inside oneself, becoming a distributed being ala Cecylene's shintai requiring large scale effects to cause meaningful damage, and acting as a mass unit.
Things to work out: how does one interact in a normal manner while in the forest shintai state? Should one even be able to? What happens if one deactivates the shintai, is the affected area lost until reclaimed by spending an equal amount of time spreading oneself in shintai form, or does the affected area act as being claimed by a geomancy charm, to later be reclaimed and actively applied the benefits of the shintai by it's reactivation at an equal or near-equal area?
Heart-Cloud Disaster Shintai
Cost: 20m, 2wp
Mins: Essence 5
Type: Simple
Keywords: Form-Type, Shaping, Obvious
Duration: One Scene
Prerequisite Charms: World-Drowning Cloudburst, Abundant Euphoria Apothecary, Mist-Sublimation Defense
Hegra is the mighty Typhoon of Nightmares, stalking on legs of lightning and raining down euphoria and madness in equal amounts. The Infernal aspires to but a fraction of her ethereal mania. Upon activating this charm, the Infernal's body dissolves into a roiling cloud of changing colors (Essence X 50) yards across, rising (Essence x 10) yards into the air. She cannot be harmed by non-magical attacks, as they barely disturb her gaseous form, and attacks against the Infernal receive an external penalty equal to the Infernal's permanent essence. Every action the Infernal moves grants her free activations of Sky Crisis Strike equal to the number of yards she covers, to a maximum of (Essence) attacks, and the willpower cost of World-Drowning Cloudburst is waived. Finally, the Infernal's madness and mania rain down upon the world them; she freely generates a poison as with Abundant Euphoria Apothecary which falls to the ground as brilliantly-shining rain until her DV refreshes, at which point she may activate Abundant Euphoria Apothecary for 5 motes to generate a new poison to begin the rain again.
Upon reaching Essence 6, this charm upgrades automatically, increasing the size of the cloud-body to (Essence X 100) yards across and lifting the Infernal one mile into the sky, to dance amongst the other clouds.
I figured adding 10 to the DDV was okay because this doesn't add 20/20 soak like other shintais do, so this is pretty fragile. I didn't see Milly's Attributes or Abilities on her character sheet, but if she's got max stats, it would only be (5+5+5)/2 which is 8 and that's pathetic for a roiling cloud.
I figured adding 10 to the DDV was okay because this doesn't add 20/20 soak like other shintais do, so this is pretty fragile. I didn't see Milly's Attributes or Abilities on her character sheet, but if she's got max stats, it would only be (5+5+5)/2 which is 8 and that's pathetic for a roiling cloud.
Already is. Is hitting a >15 DV really impossible? At Essence 5+, perfect attacks are available to every Exalt type.
Edit: After some talking in the General thread, I've changed the DV bonus to an external penalty of (Infernal's Essence) to all attacks against her. Thoughts?
So I've decided to take another stab at the whole 'create an Infernal' thing (I know jack all on charm design so all the Shintai talk is kinda going over my head, sorry). So a Malefactor with the Ebon Dragon as his patron coming right up
Cavorting in the city of gods
Yu Shan, 30th of October, 2017 a.t.b.
With the soft waves of the canal behind him, Emilio Agnelli handed over the last piece of promised quintessence to the impoverished god that had fulfilled his request to the letter.
As he watched the divine tramp scurry away, clutching the bag of celestial money like it was the most valuable object in all of Yu Shan, the Italian warlock leaned back against the wall of the nearest building and put his hat back on.
With that nearly three months of work were over with and he could finally leave the place. It was a pity that he wouldn't be returning to his beloved Naples for the foreseeable future, leaving behind the Clemenza family operations when he had already been making a name for himself as an up-and-coming prodigy in the 'subtle business', but he could hardly go against the will of the Yozi and the Althing Infernal.
'So long as you and the other Green Sun Princes can compare notes and coordinate and fine-tune your plans all of Malfeas will be better for it.'
"I'm quite aware of that, Ivrichim, but that doesn't change that it smarts hard that I have to abandon the man to whom I owe so much just because they haven't figured out a way to have this 'fine-tuning our plans' happen through a tele-conference or something like that."
Well, it was about time to have his final meeting with his 'employer' and get his written permit to use Yu Shan's exit to the Japanese archipelago.
An hour later, clad in the shape of an elderly priest of a blacksmith god, Emilio left the canals behind him. Barely a kilometer ahead of him was the gate connecting Yu Shan near to the city of Kobe, Japan. Yet Emilio ignored it and turned left, entering a luxuriously decorated establishment.
After checking in with the head waiter Emilio was guided towards a private booth on the second floor of the restaurant. Observing all the usual formalities and pleasantries the head waiter left, leaving Emilio alone with Berishi, minor accountant of the Forbidden Manse of Ivy.
"Is it done?" The accountant god didn't even spare Emilio the time to take his seat before demanding the status report. Not showing any of the distaste he felt bubbling beneath his skin, Emilio smiled and calmly took a seat before opening his mouth.
"Rest assured, master Berishi. By tomorrow noon you will have in your possession a set of documents explaining in large detail how a significant quantity of ambrosia and quintessence has been illegally removed from the stores of several highly placed gods in the Celestial bureaucracy, going from dozens of soldiers and majordomo's all the way up to the likes of the director of the bureau of nature, Ghataru himself. These documents will implicitly implicate a large number of highly ranked Sidereal Exalted belonging to the so-called 'Gold Faction', yet the only ones that will be named explicitly are a duo of newly exalted sidereals, a May Blossom and a Crimson Banner Executioner. It will be obvious to the Censor and whoever else will be part of the trial that they are mere patsies, taken advantage of by their elders. Yet that will only make the punishment the two will receive all the greater." It hadn't been easy to make such a large store of ambrosia from such a varied source disappear in a way that wouldn't arouse suspicion and falsify records of the previous years in such a way that made it seem that the 'victims' should have been entitled to a far greater prayer-tithe than what they had actually received, but Emilio had done just that. The various unemployed gods that he had picked up from the streets had done good work stashing the stolen ambrosia wherever he had told them to.
"You will also discover from those documents that they had funneled a decent amount of said ambrosia to Creation, where they owe shares in certain very profitable, yet legally very grey, companies and also have several estates to their fictive names in various parts of the world. It was this that caught your attention when doing your job two weeks ago. Stick to that story and I can assure you that nobody in all of Yu Shan will talk any more about Berishi the lowly accountant. Instead it will be Berishi, whose boldness and financial acumen has finally been recognized and how the officer within whatever bureau has been blessed by his presence is on the fast track to becoming a daimyo or a mandarin and how he will have played a dozen turns in the Jade Pleasure Dome before the end of the century. Do you get that?" In order to further the myth that the two Gold faction members were mere stooges Emilio had made sure that the earliest of their supposed ambrosia 'requisitions' came as soon as six months to a year after their introduction to Yu Shan, far too early for them to have gotten familiar enough with the system to even attempt something like this, let alone on the scale they would be accused of.
Berishi clearly liked the sound of the future that Emilio painted for him, yet the distrust of the Chosen of the Yozi still glimmered somewhere in his eyes.
"And what would you suggest for their punishment?" Wasn't that adorable, the minor god thought he was playing on his level with comments like that. Well, that was exactly the reason why Emilio had accepted the assignment, the opportunity to play around with the supposedly sagely and inscrutable gods of the world was just too good.
"I'm not sure what you mean, master Berishi. It is not up to me to decide their fate. In fact, I'm not even familiar enough with Yu Shan's code of law to even predict what those villains' punishment will be. I can only hope it won't be execution or exile. It is not because of a couple of rotten apples that the bureau of destiny must be deprived of the services of two such valuable members." Of course they would be exiled. Censor Fakharu would preside over the case and he has already received a cache of very ancient and valuable art, crafted by Kimbery's fetich soul during the Time of Glory, for which he had been very grateful. And there is so much that can happen to two Ronin Viziers, cut off from all manner of back-up and other aid.
"Nevertheless, I'm afraid I must bid you adieu, master Berishi. I fear if I stay any longer in this marvelous city I will lose all desire to ever leave again. So if you could just give me the permit with which I might leave through the Gate I shan't bother you any longer." With that Emilio stood up and reached out with his opened hand.
"And what is stopping me from gaining even greater fame and repute by handing over a depraved and insane priest of Cecelyne over to the celestial lions?" For a moment it looked as if the world outside of the comfortable booth did not exist, the god and the warlock frozen, as if waiting for all hell to break loose by either a cadre of Celestial Lions breaking into the room or or by the swift and brutal murder of the god. When neither happened Emilio smiled and opened his mouth.
"Why, I guess there is nothing that could force you to not take that course of action, aside of course from your own power of will. Yet, it would be remiss of me to not mention the possibility of me fingering you as a Yozi worshipper and claiming for the entire affair to be a petty attempt for discrediting your political rivals." And now the god was paling. Yet Emilio wasn't done yet.
"But one of your intellect should have no trouble refuting all of my false claims with all the poise and elegance that are as much part of your station as our official robes are. So all I'm left with is to remind your august self that Cecelyne, the one to whom this insane one prays to, is infinite in scope and that only an infinitely small shred of her being is anchored to the demon city of Malfeas. There is nowhere that she cannot reach, not even this very room in Yu Shan is barred from her silvery sand.
"So it might be that, in the near future, my lady, who is as much greater to the Incarnae as you are to an unborn babe, will enter your apartment when you are there and deposit a pair of erymanthoi. And then, before you know it they will have dragged you back into the infinite desert and drag your body all the way to Malfeas and nobody will ever hear from you again.
"Maybe it will be due to my own small-minded revenge. Maybe it will be because Cecelyne will have chosen another, more receptive member of Yu Shan's working class who would have decided you are somebody to do away with or maybe an Unquestionable will consider you a threat that has to be eliminated. The point being is that betraying me will only cause your victory to turn to ashes in your mouth. But still, I'm glad for your forethought, advising me on such advanced and complicated matters. If it weren't for you, master Berishi, I would be ignorant of these matters up to the point that I would have already fallen into some nefarious being's trap.
"Now, the permit, please?"
With permit in hand Emilio left the room, leaving the ashen-faced and slightly trembling deity alone with his forgotten meal.
Half an hour later Emilio had returned once more to Creation. The sun had barely started its daily ascent and as such there was barely anybody on the streets. With a small flick of the wrist Emilio undid himself of his disguise and once more showed his young and handsome features to the world.
He would have to stay in contact with Berishi in order to learn of May Blossom and Crimson Banner Executioner's fate, or more precisely, where their useless selves would be dropped. He already owed Kimbery's fetich soul Mars' chosen for her contribution with bribing Fakharu, but May Blossom would be his to track and seduce to the Yozi's side.
'And knowing you, there will be plenty of regular seduction involved as well.'
"Ivrichim, do you honestly believe me to be such a cad? Because you'd be absolutely correct, you old oversized scorpion man." Emilio had been attracted to her when he had seen pictures of May Blossom, but it was her subtle and devious maneuvering of Yu Shan politics that made him smitten with her.
He would be returning to Yu Shan often in the future, this was but the opening blow for the covert war he would be waging on the Gold faction in the name of the Ebon Dragon. By the time he would be through with them the entire Gold Faction would be but one step above the Forbidden Gods in terms of their standing in Yu Shan.
He would stay here in Kobe for a day or two to collect some dirt on the leaders of the local criminal underbelly and funds. Then he would make his way to the Tokyo region, where the supposed marshal of the Althing Infernal resided.
Anima Banner: A black and silver house-sized scorpion
Anima Effect: Infernals of the Malefactor Caste may channel their anima through sweet words and honeyed promises, beguiling the weak with their silvered tongues. By spending five motes, a Malefactor gains +1 Appearance, and adds a single automatic success on all social attacks against demons or characters of lower Essence for one scene. She also adds a single automatic success on any roll to sorcerously bind a demon. These effects come into play automatically once the warlock spends 11+ motes of Peripheral Essence.
Additionally, as the Chosen of Cecelyne, Malefactors are charged with standing against the false religions of the traitorous gods. As her action, a Malefactor can channel 10 motes of Essence through her anima. She then glows with the unholy green light of the Yozi realm and illuminates the area around her as if it were noon. This illumination extends for (Permanent Essence x 10) yards. For the remainder of the scene (or until she allows the effect to dissipate), the Malefactor gains additional lethal and bashing soak equal to her Essence against attacks by holy beings. For the purposes of this effect, holy beings include: all gods (but not elementals) of Creation who have not been corrupted into the service of the Yozis, all Solar Exalted regardless of caste (except those who have become akuma) and all Exalted of any type who know even one Charm with the Holy keyword. Also, when the Malefactor has activated this effect, her player can also add one die to the minimum number of damage dice rolled after any successful attack made against a holy being. Both of these effects automatically activate once the Malefactor has spent 11+ motes of Peripheral Essence.
Motivation: To personally convert one of the Sidereal exalted to the faith of the Yozi
Urge: Discredit the Gold Faction Sidereals in the eyes of Yu Shan and their divine allies through lies and blackmail (Ophidian)
Torment: When an Infernal with an Ophidian Urge accumulates 10 points of Limit, he suffers the Torment of the Ebon Dragon. For one full day, the character loses all moral restraint and becomes consumed by the need to engage in his favorite vices. The effects of this curse are identical to the full effects of the Overindulgence Virtue Flaw (see Exalted, p. 105).
Worse, the effects of this compulsive debauchery are contagious—anyone who interacts with the Infernal whose Dodge MDV is less than the Infernal's (Essence + primary Virtue) also suffers from the effects of this Torment, as do any individuals who represent Intimacies of the Infernal and of whom the Yozi disapprove regardless of where such an Intimacy might be when the Infernal is punished. Regardless of when a character is affected by this Torment, the effects last for one full day.
Trait from the Unwoven Coadjutor: On Emilio's lower back is a crimson, scorpion-shaped (and -sized) protuberance that looks and feels like a ruby. With the aid of some make-up and moisturizer the warlock makes it look as if it is a mundane tattoo.
Intimacies:
Boss Clemenza (eternal gratitude)
Yu Shan (Hive of Scum and Villainy)
Ebon Dragon (one massive contradiction)
Sidereal Exalted (intrigue and favorite playthings)
European Union (wasteful, hypocritical and outdated government body, perfect to take advantage of)
*Defeated and/or captured foes (primal joy and source of continued ecstasy)
Ebon Dragon
Loom-Snarling Deception
Eldritch Secrets Mastery
Cracked Cell Circumvention
Witness to Darkness
Golden Years Tarnished Black
Want Becomes Need
Everything Gets Worse
My! Such a bold motivation! Although, precisely how long has Emilio been an Infernal? The actions he has done seem like things that would take at least a year to come to fruition.
EDIT: Also, does he not have any skill at survival? Because I'm not sure if his score there is supposed to be zero or one.
Well, I didn't want to go into too much detail (mostly because it's only half formed in my head) but yeah, he doesn't do things by half. In my head he has been exalted for a bit less than half a year, in which he mostly used his urge as an excuse to not venture to malfeas (otherwise he would have gotten at least a mention during Lelouch & co's meeting with Ligier or what not). As for how he managed all that on such a short period of time, he mostly used Yozi-friendly forces already in place (after all, there are gods and other beings that have had to deal with 5000 years of poverty and destitution, more than enough to drive a large number of them into the 'welcoming' arms of the Yozi). But mostly he used his excellencies very generously. Also, he may or may not be somewhat enthusiastic with his estimations. Although, frankly, I am also somewhat stumped as to how he managed to make a deal with one of the Unquestionables (Kimbery's fetich soul) without actually venturing into Malfeas (maybe that one embodies both Kimbery's sense of art and her smuggling tendencies?) but it would probably have happened through intermediaries.
Also, yes, Emilio lacks any and all survival skills, drop him in a forest and the poor boy will starve. I kept it in for completion's sake, so I wouldn't be confused later on when I counted only 9 Caste/favoured Abilities
Mmm... to explain what I mean: let's say you have an Infernal with Dex 1 and Dodge 0. They'd have a basic dodge DV or 3 thanks to having E5, which this charm would then increase to 13. Now let's look at a Solar with Dex 5, Dodge 5, and Infinite Dodge Mastery; when activating Infinite Mastery at full power (20 m and 1 wp), they also have a base dodge DV of 13. For 1 more wp, this form of the Charm makes a completely non-evasion focused Exalt as hard to hit as a combat-focused Solar- and they get a load more benefits on top of that. Even taking into account the prerequisite differences, that's a bit much. A high Dex high Dodge character who uses the Charm can easily get a dodge DV of 20+ from it, but I have no real issue with that- after a certain point, increasing your DV gets a bit pointless against enemies on the same level as you, and character who've focused on dodging should be good at it.
Basically, it's not so much that I have a problem with the resultant difficulty to hit; it's the resultant difficulty to hit even if a non-combat character uses the Charm, especially seeing as evasion is not one of Hegra's themes. If it was an Adorjan Shintai, I might think differently.
Edit: After some talking in the General thread, I've changed the DV bonus to an external penalty of (Infernal's Essence) to all attacks against her. Thoughts?
Aside from our Coven, every Infernal who Exalted before Lelouch is dead either due to their own stupidity or due to being 'dealt with' by the Yozis' other agents due to refusing to do their job.
So Emilio cannot have been Exalted for more than about 3 weeks? That changes things sligthly.
Guess he was aware of the supernatural before drawing his second breath.
EDIT: So is it possible for the Clemenza Mafia Family to also double as a Kimbery Cult? In that case I could even have the founder of said cult to be a Second Circle Demon descending from tha aforementioned Kimbery fetich, which would be how Emilio could have gotten in contact with her.
Doesn't change that he must have been working very hard and fast to get the results shown in the omake even with inside help
EDIT: So is it possible for the Clemenza Mafia Family to also double as a Kimbery Cult? In that case I could even have the founder of said cult to be a Second Circle Demon descending from tha aforementioned Kimbery fetich, which would be how Emilio could have gotten in contact with her.
Doesn't change that he must have been working very hard and fast to get the results shown in the omake even with inside help
Lintha, that one pirate faction that is into self-mutilation and castration? Something tells me that they wouldn't be all that inclined to play nice with the humans, not even the bare minimum required for a mafioso family. Also, weren't there plans to have them be situated somewhere around the Philipinnes?
Lintha, that one pirate faction that is into self-mutilation and castration? Something tells me that they wouldn't be all that inclined to play nice with the humans, not even the bare minimum required for a mafioso family. Also, weren't there plans to have them be situated somewhere around the Philipinnes?
TBH, I don't know too much about them. But I wouldn't put it as inconceivable that their are small groups all over the world, and one big group that is nominally the leader of the whole thing in the Phillipines, but doesn't really care about the interbred and barely Lintha Hicks elsewhere.
But Lintha could become a major Mafia family, especially if the bosses have pure enough blood to use Charms.
EDIT: And yes, they're not too nice to humans in canon, but I'd figure that the smaller groups who don't have the numbers to be really xenophobic will easily interbreed with humans, whilst the larger groups who have a stable enough population will do their best to marry other Lintha.
But then how would they have not accidently bred out their Lintha traits? Regular visits of momma Kimbery (and by that I mean one of her 3CD, Surrender Oaths and all that) to birth new 'pure' lines?
BTW, I just read (skimmed) through the chapter on the Lintha pirates in Compass of Terrestrial Directions: the West and is it just me or is there a whole lot of stuff in there that makes no sense in the setting, like one of the Lintha exalting from Kimbery, 300 years before the canonical breaking of the Jade Prison?
If the Yozi could do that, create their own exaltations, then why wouldn't they have just gone and done that instead of playing with the Solar exaltations?
A further edited version. The General thread suggested removing the DV bonus entirely and replacing it with a max-damage cap like in Cecelyne's shintai and disallowing the use of the free Sky Crisis Strikes to get free flurries. Not sure if I want to use the +Essence DV or the max-damage cap. The poison rain has been altered.
Hegra is the mighty Typhoon of Nightmares, stalking on legs of lightning and raining down euphoria and madness in equal amounts. The Infernal aspires to but a fraction of her ethereal mania. Upon activating this charm, the Infernal's body dissolves into a roiling cloud of changing colors (Essence X 50) yards across, rising (Essence x 10) yards into the air. She cannot be harmed by non-magical attacks, as they barely disturb her gaseous form, and cannot suffer more than 1 damage level per attack in step ten unless the attack encompasses more than one-tenth of her body, or if the attacker is similarly massive. Every action the Infernal moves grants her free activations of Sky Crisis Strike equal to the number of yards she covers, to a maximum of (Essence) attacks which may not be flurried at the same target, and the willpower cost of World-Drowning Cloudburst is waived. Finally, the Infernal's madness and mania rain down upon the world; she freely generates a poison as with Abundant Euphoria Apothecary which falls to the ground as brilliantly-shining rain. She may pay the normal cost of that charm in order to brew a new poison to shower down on her foes.
Upon reaching Essence 6, this charm upgrades automatically, increasing the size of the cloud-body to (Essence X 100) yards across and lifting the Infernal one mile into the sky, to dance amongst the other clouds.