Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

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Do I need to make an argument about just how important it is to meet Mortimer Lindquist, the Warden/Guardian of Chicago's ghosts? This month, this September, before Halloween comes around?

Because Im getting the impression a lot of people arent recognizing the name, or WHY its important.
 
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Do I need to make an argument about just how important it is to meet Mortimer Lindquist, the Warden/Guardian of Chicago's ghosts? This month, this September, before Halloween comes around?

Because Im getting the impression a lot of people arent recognizing the name, or WHY its important.
Eh. He's important, but I wouldn't consider it critical quite yet. Major stuff should presumably tip off Lydia, and she's presumably doing something with her time.

She's probably as much of a canary in the coal mine as we need.
 
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Do I need to make an argument about just how important it is to meet Mortimer Lindquist, the Warden/Guardian of Chicago's ghosts? This month, this September, before Halloween comes around?

Because Im getting the impression a lot of people arent recognizing the name, or WHY its important.
Halloween is in the end of October. While meeting him might be important (and yes, I do not recognize the name at all), in my mind it is only important through the lense of being Lydia-centered activity.
 
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Do I need to make an argument about just how important it is to meet Mortimer Lindquist, the Warden/Guardian of Chicago's ghosts? This month, this September, before Halloween comes around?

Because Im getting the impression a lot of people arent recognizing the name, or WHY its important.
Seems more like an early October thing to me.
 
On an unrelated note, should we consider some material support for Divsimar?

He's not teaching Molly for a paycheck, but he (or rather his temple) is spending money just to be here.

Seems like the least we could do for the temple is set it up so that they aren't paying for the privilege of giving us free training.

… In fact, when we can teleport around the world we should consider going over there and doing them a few favors. Both to pay back the good turn they've given us and to harmlessly freak them out a little.

Plus we'd probably get the opportunity to inflict brutal violence on demons, and that's always a fun time.
 
On an unrelated note, should we consider some material support for Divsimar?

He's not teaching Molly for a paycheck, but he (or rather his temple) is spending money just to be here.

Seems like the least we could do for the temple is set it up so that they aren't paying for the privilege of giving us free training.

… In fact, when we can teleport around the world we should consider going over there and doing them a few favors. Both to pay back the good turn they've given us and to harmlessly freak them out a little.

Plus we'd probably get the opportunity to inflict brutal violence on demons, and that's always a fun time.

Well technically you can teleport within sight of water, getting all the way to Nepal is going to be a bit harder than hopping on the other side of the Atlantic
 
On an unrelated note, should we consider some material support for Divsimar?

He's not teaching Molly for a paycheck, but he (or rather his temple) is spending money just to be here.

Seems like the least we could do for the temple is set it up so that they aren't paying for the privilege of giving us free training.

… In fact, when we can teleport around the world we should consider going over there and doing them a few favors. Both to pay back the good turn they've given us and to harmlessly freak them out a little.

Plus we'd probably get the opportunity to inflict brutal violence on demons, and that's always a fun time.
Yeah, I'm down for this. We should have enough spare cash to make a generous donation to at least cover his living expenses and something he can send back to the temple to help out there.
 
Eh. He's important, but I wouldn't consider it critical quite yet. Major stuff should presumably tip off Lydia, and she's presumably doing something with her time. She's probably as much of a canary in the coal mine as we need.
Two words: Lecters. EvilBob.

Not really no. Lydia isnt there yet.
Newly come into her powers, she lacks the experience or the Backgrounds necessary to play that role.
She can be, given experience, but she isnt yet.

And its worth remembering that major stuff often goes unnoticed in the early stages unless you start looking for it.

Halloween is in the end of October. While meeting him might be important (and yes, I do not recognize the name at all), in my mind it is only important through the lense of being Lydia-centered activity.
He's the resident ectomancer.
Think Professor X but for ghosts only. Canon Corpstaker tried to possess him because of his magic strength, which according to the Fae was Dresden-level. Something of a self-admitted coward, but hugely powerful and hugely influential among ghosts.

Of particular worry to me is this:

The Lecter Specters

All the ghosts watching Mortimer Lindquist's house as it burned were killers, Mort gave them a home, a reason to turn aside their madness. With Lindquist gone, they will kill again. According to Sir Stuart, "fifty years of maddened shades unleashed upon the city all at once. Preying on mortals. Blood will run in buckets."[30] Dresden told Murphy that if they don't get Mortimer back, that they manifest making them real like the Nightmare.

Dresden dubs them the insane killer ghosts the Lecter Specters.[31] Since they are insane, they can manifest—sane ghosts don't interact with the mortal world.[26] There were some famous Chicago serial killers amongst them.[28]
The Lecters answered Dresden's call to come home at Mortimer Lindquist#Mortimer's House Mortimer's house, along with the Ghost-soldiers, and follow him to rescue Lindquist.[28] They fought Evil Bob's forces in the Nevernever and fought the lemurs and Big Hoods in the hideout.[32] Corpsetaker ate them, like the Darkhallow.[33] She did that to gain enough madness to manifest and some of her powers back with the ability to steal any body.[26]
This is the second year in a row that we've seen major necromancy in Chicago.

Kattrin murdered almost 30 people that we know of, never mind what EvilBob and the Corpsetaker and Gorfels got up to.
Then Arawn's transfer of power happened, with us enhancing it with a Neverborn-invoking ritual.
We really shouldnt put this off till October.

Especially since EvilBob is still out there.
Seems more like an early October thing to me.
Given as we have both Rosie and the Ordo to worry about?
It really should be a September thing, so they have time to prepare if necessary.

Chicago just saw a major necromantic event for the second year in a row, and this is the third out of five years when it happened.
Grave Peril, Dead Beat and the Red Room Murders.
A little caution goes a long way.
 
Well technically you can teleport within sight of water, getting all the way to Nepal is going to be a bit harder than hopping on the other side of the Atlantic
We can't yet. We are just heavily looking forward to that ability.

Looking at a map Nepal does seem to have quite a few rivers going through it. Don't know exactly where the monastery is but we should be able to find a route that gets us fairly close. Also flight means that climbing isn't a big problem. Still we are going to want windspeed if we want to make the trip something we do regularly.


Mortimer Lindquist feels like a Lydia thing. I am not even sure how Molly would contribute.
[X]Plan Infernal Necessities
 
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Mortimer Lindquist feels like a Lydia thing. I am not even sure how Molly would contribute.
The same way Molly talks to people?
This is a social encounter, and Molly is the social monster here. The one who people know who her father is, and who can actually get Dresden to do an intro. Lydia has no such parental references in Chicago.

I mean, its worth recalling that Lydia has Occult 1. Awareness 1.
Her passive senses and knowledge are kinda garbage-tier. And she doesnt have enough Essence to burn it as freely as Molly does.
She was not optimized to function alone the way Molly was.
 
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Well technically you can teleport within sight of water, getting all the way to Nepal is going to be a bit harder than hopping on the other side of the Atlantic
Couldn't we just pop down to Cape Town or wherever and take smaller steps until we're in the Indian Ocean? Once we're in the area there are a few rivers that can get us close to or inside of Nepal. It's not like the charm costs essence, so a few extra hops aren't a huge deal.

Navigating from there could be more or less complicated depending on where the monastery is and where we end up getting out.

Language would be more of an issue, but hopefully we wouldn't try a trip like that without a plan for it. Like seeing if cyber devils make for decent translators when talking to people in the know about the supernatural.

Not the highest priority, but it doesn't seem that much more difficult than say getting to the Czech Republic by taking the Atlantic to the North Sea, and then going up the Elbe.

Two words: Lecters. EvilBob.

Not really no. Lydia isnt there yet.
Newly come into her powers, she lacks the experience or the Backgrounds necessary to play that role.
She can be, given experience, but she isnt yet.

And its worth remembering that major stuff often goes unnoticed in the early stages unless you start looking for it.


He's the resident ectomancer.
Think Professor X but for ghosts only. Canon Corpstaker tried to possess him because of his magic strength, which according to the Fae was Dresden-level. Something of a self-admitted coward, but hugely powerful and hugely influential among ghosts.

Of particular worry to me is this:

This is the second year in a row that we've seen major necromancy in Chicago.

Kattrin murdered almost 30 people that we know of, never mind what EvilBob and the Corpsetaker and Gorfels got up to.
Then Arawn's transfer of power happened, with us enhancing it with a Neverborn-invoking ritual.
We really shouldnt put this off till October.

Especially since EvilBob is still out there.

Given as we have both Rosie and the Ordo to worry about?
It really should be a September thing, so they have time to prepare if necessary.

Chicago just saw a major necromantic event for the second year in a row, and this is the third out of five years when it happened.
Grave Peril, Dead Beat and the Red Room Murders.
A little caution goes a long way.
Why would evil Bob stick around here? It's one of the few cities where people know to be prepared for him, and the last major opportunity dried up on him.

Mort's situation is prickly, but stable. Barring knowledge of a specific threat I don't think we need to worry about him choking on his own spit and leaving the city to drown in angry ghosts.

We could pick any number of factions in Chicago to play this sort of game with; we don't have time to babysit them all.
 
Why would evil Bob stick around here? It's one of the few cities where people know to be prepared for him, and the last major opportunity dried up on him.

Mort's situation is prickly, but stable. Barring knowledge of a specific threat I don't think we need to worry about him choking on his own spit and leaving the city to drown in angry ghosts.

We could pick any number of factions in Chicago to play this sort of game with; we don't have time to babysit them all.
1)Why would he leave? Where would he go?
Bob has a price on his head courtesy of Mab, and so EvilBob does too on general principles.
He doesnt have freedom of movement or a preexisting network of allies and boltholes.

EvilBob knows Chicago either due to memories from when he and Bob were one, or since, and Chi-Town is a major magical crossroad with lots of entities passing through. Good place to keep a low profile. He just stuck around here for ten months after the events of Dead Beat, despite knowing that his lightside twin and his boss live in the same city.

He apparently remained in Chicago for six years after Dead Beat in canon, and as far as I recall he survived Corpsetaker's Final Death in canon too.



2) Mortimer's situation is unknown. We've never met him in this AU so far; we're working off his canon appearances to date as of Proven Guilty. We dont know if he's stable, or unstable.
We dont know if Kattrin paid him a visit while she was in town, or if Corpsetaker did. Or even Gorfels.

Establishing a basic baseline is part of what this is about, as well as getting information for our own purposes.

Like I pointed out earlier, Lydia is Occult 1, Awareness 1.
She isnt likely to notice anything going on in the local netherworld until things blow up.
She isnt ready to shoulder that burden yet, and making sure she doesnt have to is worth doing in its own right.

Dont put it off until the eve of Halloween.
 
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)Why would he leave? Where would he go?
Bob has a price on his head courtesy of Mab, and so EvilBob does too on general principles.
He doesnt have freedom of movement or a preexisting network of allies and boltholes.

EvilBob knows Chicago either due to memories from when he and Bob were one, or since, and Chi-Town is a major magical crossroad with lots of entities passing through. Good place to keep a low profile. He just stuck around here for ten months after the events of Dead Beat, despite knowing that his lightside twin and his boss live in the same city.

He apparently remained in Chicago for six years after Dead Beat in canon, and as far as I recall he survived Corpsetaker's Final Death in canon too.
If we assume that evilbobs memories are most with Kemilar then he should have some very outdated knowledge about Germany.
 
If we assume that evilbobs memories are most with Kemilar then he should have some very outdated knowledge about Germany.
Thats the easiest stuff to rectify to be honest.
Dude is the evil version of a spirit of knowledge. He'd have updated his understanding by watching TV or reading a book.

The problem of evil is that a lot of evil folks have to consider that their compatriots might well stab them in the back to save their own skins, or even if the price is right. EvilBob has to consider if he'll be sold out to Mab, or if his next confederate is looking to eat him for magical power, for every person he considers working with.

And there arent many OG Kemmlerites with Kemmlerite loyalties around.
Thule Society is still around, but loyalty? Eh.

Nevermind that he personally aggroed Mab's shiny new necromancer hunter by getting involved in Kattrin's plot.
And is as such on Old Man Mathew's personal shitlist.
As well as that of Mab and Winter.
 
Thats the easiest stuff to rectify to be honest.
Dude is the evil version of a spirit of knowledge. He'd have updated his understanding by watching TV or reading a book.

The problem of evil is that a lot of evil folks have to consider that their compatriots might well stab them in the back to save their own skins, or even if the price is right. EvilBob has to consider if he'll be sold out to Mab, or if his next confederate is looking to eat him for magical power, for every person he considers working with.

And there arent many OG Kemmlerites with Kemmlerite loyalties around.
Thule Society is still around, but loyalty? Eh.

Nevermind that he personally aggroed Mab's shiny new necromancer hunter by getting involved in Kattrin's plot.
And is as such on Old Man Mathew's personal shitlist.
As well as that of Mab and Winter.
Thinking about it that way it's actually a bit surprising that Evilbob ended up being Harry's problem in the books.
 
Thinking about it that way it's actually a bit surprising that Evilbob ended up being Harry's problem in the books.
Narrative causality is my assumption.
Because really, when you think about it, EvilBob surviving alone with no allies besides the ghost of Corpsetaker in canon is very much an Act of Plot. Too many people looking to sell him out, enslave him or kill him, and while he's buff, he's not that buff.

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Adhoc vote count started by uju32 on Jan 13, 2023 at 7:31 PM, finished with 67 posts and 19 votes.

  • [X] Plan: Money, Training, School and Obligations
    -[X] Attend school you have friends at school and you would like the memories of senior year and graduation even if they won't be teaching you anything worthwhile (If neither School nor getting your GED is chosen Molly will systematically skip class)
    -[X] Starting up, you have an assistant and an idea, not to help actually set this thing in motion, not just the paperwork but actually getting (or making) some machines that look like they could make diamonds. Also includes making more diamonds.
    -[X] A friend in need. You promised Rosie that you would help and so you will, with problems material and ethereal
    --[X] Dreaming True, Rosie is doing great so far, but she still needs more training before she can get a proper hold of her powers (3/10 pogress)
    -[X] The Bridges of the Spirit, continue your training with Brother Divsimar in the perilous, powerful arts of his order (Can begin studying Dragon's Speed)
    -[X] Trading in lore, you have started down the path of learning alchemy from Bob... and revealing some of the deepest secrets of Yomi Wan, both very good things as far as you are concerned. (15/25 and 9/20)
    -[X] Restoring the Last Station: Restoration efforts have been going well and according to Adam some more of the people down in the tunnels have shown interest in their newfound wealth and comfort (2/8)
    [X]Plan Infernal Necessities
    -[X] Attend school you have friends at school and you would like the memories of senior year and graduation even if they won't be teaching you anything worthwhile (If neither School nor getting your GED is chosen Molly will systematically skip class)
    -[X] Starting up, you have an assistant and an idea, not to help actually set this thing in motion, not just the paperwork but actually getting (or making) some machines that look like they could make diamonds. Also includes making more diamonds.
    -[X][Investigations x1] Spirit Speaker: Mortimer Lindquist is apparently a real medium who also does fake seances, he is also quite a talented writer. It would be cool to meet him, but you also have a more serious reason to seek his company. Rosie is still mentally fragile and she is in a hospital and you have it on good and... er diverse authority that places like that are gathering places for dark and predatory spirits
    -[X] A friend in need. You promised Rosie that you would help and so you will, with problems material and ethereal
    --[X]Dreaming True: Rosie is doing great so far, but she still needs more training before she can get a proper hold of her powers (3/10 progress)
    -[X] Trading in lore, you have started down the path of learning alchemy from Bob... and revealing some of the deepest secrets of Yomi Wan, both very good things as far as you are concerned. (15/25 and 9/20)
    -[X] Restoring the Last Station: Restoration efforts have been going well and according to Adam some more of the people down in the tunnels have shown interest in their newfound wealth and comfort (2/8)
    [X] Plan: Money, Training, School and Obligations w/ meeting Odin
    -[X] Attend school you have friends at school and you would like the memories of senior year and graduation even if they won't be teaching you anything worthwhile (If neither School nor getting your GED is chosen Molly will systematically skip class)
    -[X] Starting up, you have an assistant and an idea, not to help actually set this thing in motion, not just the paperwork but actually getting (or making) some machines that look like they could make diamonds. Also includes making more diamonds.
    -[X] A friend in need. You promised Rosie that you would help and so you will, with problems material and ethereal
    --[X] Dreaming True, Rosie is doing great so far, but she still needs more training before she can get a proper hold of her powers (3/10 pogress)
    -[X] Father of Hosts: It's not often someone gets a business card from Odin, or maybe it is, you are no expert on Norse Gods turned private military contractors, go talk to him and see what he wants and what he has to offer
    -[X] Trading in lore, you have started down the path of learning alchemy from Bob... and revealing some of the deepest secrets of Yomi Wan, both very good things as far as you are concerned. (15/25 and 9/20)
    -[X] Restoring the Last Station: Restoration efforts have been going well and according to Adam some more of the people down in the tunnels have shown interest in their newfound wealth and comfort (2/8)
    [X] Plan Getting Shit Done
    -[X] Attend school you have friends at school and you would like the memories of senior year and graduation even if they won't be teaching you anything worthwhile (If neither School nor getting your GED is chosen Molly will systematically skip class)
    -[X] Starting up, you have an assistant and an idea, not to help actually set this thing in motion, not just the paperwork but actually getting (or making) some machines that look like they could make diamonds. Also includes making more diamonds.
    -[X] A friend in need. You promised Rosie that you would help and so you will, with problems material and ethereal
    --[X] Dreaming True, Rosie is doing great so far, but she still needs more training before she can get a proper hold of her powers (3/10 pogress)
    -[X] The Bridges of the Spirit, continue your training with Brother Divsimar in the perilous, powerful arts of his order (Can begin studying Dragon's Speed)
    -[X] (x2) Restoring the Last Station: Restoration efforts have been going well and according to Adam some more of the people down in the tunnels have shown interest in their newfound wealth and comfort (2/8)
    [X] Plan Faithful to Her Obligations and family
    -[X] Attend school
    -[X] Starting up
    -[X] Trading in lore
    -[X] Restoring the Last Station
    -[X] A friend in need.
    --[X] Dreaming True
    -[X] Heart to Heart
    [X] Just relax: It's almost enough to make you feel guilty given all the good you could be doing, but it's been a while since you have just hung out, gone to one of Leeth's softball games or watched anime with Matthew
 
1)Why would he leave? Where would he go?
Bob has a price on his head courtesy of Mab, and so EvilBob does too on general principles.
He doesnt have freedom of movement or a preexisting network of allies and boltholes.

EvilBob knows Chicago either due to memories from when he and Bob were one, or since, and Chi-Town is a major magical crossroad with lots of entities passing through. Good place to keep a low profile. He just stuck around here for ten months after the events of Dead Beat, despite knowing that his lightside twin and his boss live in the same city.

He apparently remained in Chicago for six years after Dead Beat in canon, and as far as I recall he survived Corpsetaker's Final Death in canon too.



2) Mortimer's situation is unknown. We've never met him in this AU so far; we're working off his canon appearances to date as of Proven Guilty. We dont know if he's stable, or unstable.
We dont know if Kattrin paid him a visit while she was in town, or if Corpsetaker did. Or even Gorfels.

Establishing a basic baseline is part of what this is about, as well as getting information for our own purposes.

Like I pointed out earlier, Lydia is Occult 1, Awareness 1.
She isnt likely to notice anything going on in the local netherworld until things blow up.
She isnt ready to shoulder that burden yet, and making sure she doesnt have to is worth doing in its own right.

Dont put it off until the eve of Halloween.
1) Why would he stay? His memories are all of places and people he can't go to or rely on. He could screw off to Ohio and probably eat half of Columbus before anyone noticed what was going on.

In canon he kept a low profile and presumably spent a lot more time getting invested in stuff. He's had a lot less time to do that here, and he's already on people's radar in ways he hasn't been previously.

Additionally, I don't see how the community being bigger helps him. He's a knowledge spirit with his fingers in a lot of different undead pies; he can't exactly blend in with the minor talents or local fey.

Even if he does stick around as he did in canon he was apparently content to do nothing catastrophically destructive for most of a decade, so I don't see a reason to panic about him.

2) Mort has successfully survived Halloween every year he's been in the city so far. As to h pointed out already, his death or serious incapacitation would probably have unleashed a horde of murder ghosts by this point so I'm willing to bet it didn't happen.

This is basically fear mongering. I could make the same argument about secret white council auditors looking in after the Daedalus nonsense, Lara having spies tail her brother straight to us, or Denarians getting a fax from the home office about the new complication in their mission.

It's all possible, but we have no real way to gauge how likely any of it is or assign meaningful risk assessments to them.

Without the ability to do that any planning of this type done is essentially based on what hits any given individuals paranoia in the right way.

There's potential value in seeing him, though I wouldn't call it the highest return on our investment at the moment, but the line of reasoning you're using seems faulty to me.
 
For my part, I am not willing to give up training the Dex Qaio.

Dex is thr god Stat for a reason and having 8 dex is monstrous.

I consider it too important to do that if only to finish it and start the Dreaming qaio for the willpower gains.

The combo of Movement=Rest + roll for willpower during rest is too powerful to pass up, what wigh us being able to convert Essence to willpower.

Add to that charred Sinner renual, we regen our resources to an absurd degree.

It js also the only way to unlock magic Martisl Arts or start on that.

Hence my vote.
 
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For my part, I am not willing to give up training the Dex Qaio.

Dex is thr god Stat for a reason and having 8 dex is monstrous.

I consider it too important to do that if only to finish it and start the Dreaming qaio for the willpower gains.

The combo of Movement=Rest + roll for willpower during rest is too powerful to pass up, what wigh us being able to convert Essence to willpower.

Add to that charred Sinner renual, we regen our resources to an absurd degree.

It js also the only way to unlock magic Martisl Arts or start on that.

Hence my vote.
Agreed. I'd give up on other important options to insure we took this one.
 
1) Why would he stay? His memories are all of places and people he can't go to or rely on. He could screw off to Ohio and probably eat half of Columbus before anyone noticed what was going on.

In canon he kept a low profile and presumably spent a lot more time getting invested in stuff. He's had a lot less time to do that here, and he's already on people's radar in ways he hasn't been previously.

Additionally, I don't see how the community being bigger helps him. He's a knowledge spirit with his fingers in a lot of different undead pies; he can't exactly blend in with the minor talents or local fey.

Even if he does stick around as he did in canon he was apparently content to do nothing catastrophically destructive for most of a decade, so I don't see a reason to panic about him.

2) Mort has successfully survived Halloween every year he's been in the city so far. As to h pointed out already, his death or serious incapacitation would probably have unleashed a horde of murder ghosts by this point so I'm willing to bet it didn't happen.

This is basically fear mongering. I could make the same argument about secret white council auditors looking in after the Daedalus nonsense, Lara having spies tail her brother straight to us, or Denarians getting a fax from the home office about the new complication in their mission.

It's all possible, but we have no real way to gauge how likely any of it is or assign meaningful risk assessments to them.
Without the ability to do that any planning of this type done is essentially based on what hits any given individuals paranoia in the right way.

There's potential value in seeing him, though I wouldn't call it the highest return on our investment at the moment, but the line of reasoning you're using seems faulty to me.
1)Because Chicago is the third largest city in the US, in addition to being an acknowledged magical crossroad?
Large population of supernaturals to hide in, lots of NeverNever locales connect here, right in top of a nexus of Ways.
The grendelkin was eating people and animals here for months in the short story Heorot before Dresden and Gard noticed.

From a personal safety perspective, a transportation crossroads gives you multiple options for evading pursuit and leaving town. There apparently arent many places like this in the Dresdenverse. Edinburgh is another, but held by the White Council.
Not sure if Chitchen Itza is as well.

Its the same reason why experienced fugitives try to stay close to multiple transport options.
And why they seek out large cities; easier to blend into large populations.


2)Spirit of knowledge, not necromancer. He doesnt appear to grow in power from eating mortals, let alone spirits.
Fucking off to Columbus puts him in a less obvious locale, but also one with a much smaller population, so he stands out more, and with fewer egress routes should a hunting party come to town. Much higher risk of getting cornered and clobbered.


3) In canon he took six or seven years before getting involved in another major scheme.
Here its only been ten months.
Something's different.



4) No, it isnt fear mongering.
Mortimer's death would unleash a murder of ghosts on the city. His incapacitation however? We dont know.
If he's being pressed, whether by Kattrin's remnants, Daedalus or even the Library? We dont know.

We have no way of knowing without walking in and knocking on his door.


5) I dont think thats a valid argument.

We already made contact with the Senior Council via Ebenezar McCoy the Blackstaff way back in the first arc.
And Dresden probably has given at least some updates on the matter after the Red Room Murders.
Thats handled.

Lara Raith knows who we are, and she or someone acting on her instructions called Michael after the Black Rider auction.
Frankly I would be surprised if she doesnt already know about her brother's new business associate; its been around three weeks, and she's the sister who raised him, effective White Court head and his handler in the True Venatori.

Marcone knows because Gard, as does Odin.
Summer Court knows because Lily and Fix were there when we got back from Arctis Tor.
Winter knows because of our escape from Arctis Tor.

The Red Court know about us because we let a Rampire covert action team go after Cleveland; it was the right thing to do, but they know. The Archive knows everything we've committed to paper or electronic communication.
And she isnt in Chicago anyway.

The only reason Im not stressing about the Denarians is because they have no publicly known points of contact in the Chicago area. Neither do the Yama Kings for that matter.
They generally get initiative, so we wait.
 
For my part, I am not willing to give up training the Dex Qaio.
Dex is thr god Stat for a reason and having 8 dex is monstrous.

I consider it too important to do that if only to finish it and start the Dreaming qaio for the willpower gains.
The combo of Movement=Rest + roll for willpower during rest is too powerful to pass up, what wigh us being able to convert Essence to willpower.

Add to that charred Sinner renual, we regen our resources to an absurd degree.
It js also the only way to unlock magic Martisl Arts or start on that.
Hence my vote.
Agreed. I'd give up on other important options to insure we took this one.
1)Point of correction: We dont get Dex 8.
To my recollection, we average 2 sux on a dice pool of 9 dice (WP) at DC8.
So we expect to average Dex 6.

Calibrate your expectations accordingly.



2) Go look at the mechanics for training Shih Martial Arts.
The Dex Qiao is 8XP to buy, same as a 2 dot charm. 7xp after we train up at least 1 specialized xp
Quaio Training
Training is mechanically abstracted as one roll for your teacher Charisma+Skill and one for the Student Intelligence or Dexterity+Skill. All Successes are added up and convert into XP which can be used to by the skill in question at a rate of 15 successes to an XP point. Once one such specialized XP is obtained you can buy the path on the next level up. Alternatively you can keep training up to a maximum of half the XP cost of the Path Rating in question. For infernal the base cost of Quaio is 4xpath rating so 4/8/12/16/20 which can be reduced with training to 2/4/6/8/10.
Subsequent dots in a ShMA costs significantly more. At those costs, it has competition from Sorcery, which is cheaper.

At the current rate, it costs 2 months/2 AP to earn each specialized xp as a discount.
To get Dragon Speed down to, say, 6xp, we would need 4 months/4 AP of training. 6 months/6 AP if we need 5xp.
At those kinds of timescales, we can afford to skip one month because it doesnt make much difference.

Of course, we'd actually be better off training the first dot of Dream down to 3xp and buying it before coming back to Devil Fighter.
But thats a different discussion.
 
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