[X] Go home, take that Clorox bath then get as much sleep as you can before heading out to look for evidence to spring Harry from jail
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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[X] Go home, take that Clorox bath then get as much sleep as you can before heading out to look for evidence to spring Harry from jail
[X] Go straight to answer, do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars.
-[X] Look at the city model and use our crown to ask "where can the one saught by this table's owner be found?"
-[x] Then go home, take that Clorox bath then get as much sleep as you can before heading out to look for evidence to spring Harry from jail
Answering an arbetrary question is sorta our forte. Once we spring Harry we will want the answer on hand as time will be short.
-[X] Look at the city model and use our crown to ask "where can the one saught by this table's owner be found?"
-[x] Then go home, take that Clorox bath then get as much sleep as you can before heading out to look for evidence to spring Harry from jail
Answering an arbetrary question is sorta our forte. Once we spring Harry we will want the answer on hand as time will be short.
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That seems a little tenuous as a connection. If you want to know where the person Harry is hunting is, why not just ask the location of the subject of the prophecy we just got like @bengalqueen suggested?
The Crown of Eyes
While intensely studying an object, situation, or
individual that is within her line of sight, the Infernal
may spend 1 Essence and ask one question about it, which the Storyteller must answer honestly. The Infernal can only ever use this power a single time on any object, situation, or individual. When the character's anima is flaring, great staring eyes open within its emerald flames, and the Infernal becomes impossible to ambush or strike with an unexpected attack, even if her foe is invisible.
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Little Chicago is not a valid focus for this.
Not that Id want to use it on this.
[x] Then go home, take that Clorox bath then get as much sleep as you can before heading out to look for evidence to spring Harry from jail
Ok, so that won't work.
We have a title though. Can we write it down and ask where the being who holds that title is?
Ok, so that won't work.
We have a title though. Can we write it down and ask where the being who holds that title is?
Oh god you are totally right.
- Location
- florida
Mab will become our fairy step mother?
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Okay, so, after this is over, we're going to talk Harry into letting us pick Bob over for everything he knows or guesses about Exaltation, right? Because he clearly knows or suspects more about our power than anyone we've met so far who's been willing to share, and he's very willing to share. And it's not like Harry doesn't want that information, either, so if we can pry it out of Bob with minimal effort…
He is guessing based on what he is sensing. Dresden head passenger, while only a fraction of the real fallen, is still several billion of times larger, and more knowledgeable then Bob.
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Note the qualifier of "being willing to share." The angel messenger knew more than Bob, but wasn't willing to say anything we didn't already know, and Lash might know more, but even if she was willing to tell us everything she knows we wouldn't necessarily trust that she didn't edit the facts for the sake of her agenda.
Bob, on the other hand, is completely willing to share everything he knows because he was charmed by the pretty girl, and knows what looks like way more than Molly currently does IC, so is a valuable resource to tap.
- Location
- Germany
[X] Go home, take that Clorox bath then get as much sleep as you can before heading out to look for evidence to spring Harry from jail
1) A big bang windfall looks like an unlikely, but very real event that happens to hundreds of American lottery winners every year.
Lots of smaller cash flows starts to fit the profile of money laundering, and draws attention.
Molly is 17 years old, 18 in 3 months, and hasnt finished high school.
She has no current skills that would legally translate to millions of dollars; she isnt Hannah Montana or a STEM wunderkind that coded Skype in their bedroom and sold it to Microsoft.
Melee 5 is best in the world, but at best it would get her Olympic gold in fencing.
You're going to be hard pressed to find any vaguely plausible way she has lots of smaller cash flows that total up to tens of millions of dollars in a couple months and doesnt peg someone's bullshit meter hard.
2) Structuring financial transactions in an attempt to avoid Federal scrutiny is an actual Federal crime in the US.
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What Is a Smurf and How Does Smurfing Work?
A smurf is a colloquial term for a money launderer who seeks to evade scrutiny from government agencies by breaking up large transactions.
3)I strongly disagree about prereqs for winning a lottery. All you need is a winning lottery ticket and you use that to get a big law firm on contingency. If we wait till we have the financial infrastructure to move large amounts of money, that means we have large amounts of money and we would not need the lottery any longer.
We need a lottery win, or a large gold find, or a large gem find, as a Big Bang move to take us from Resources 0 to Resources 4ish or better.
There are no other legalish ways I can think of for a soon to be 18 year old high school junior/senior to become a multimillionaire in the next three months; we arent inheriting a massive fortune, and everything else that has been suggested, like suddenly becoming a genius daytrader on the stock market, is frankly a lot more ridiculous and eyecatching than suddenly winning the lottery.
Or a lot more illegal, like going Breaking Bad and cooking high grade drugs.
4) Lara Raith de facto runs the White Court. She lives in Chicago, at the Raith family estate.
Her half-brother (and Harry's half-brother)Thomas Raith was on the squad of people who rescued us. I dont think its an actual concern that someone as smart as Lara is going to intentionally go anywhere near enthralling the daughter of a Knight of the Cross and known associate of Harry "Oops I did It Again" Dresden, even before we developed occult superpowers.
Last time that happened, the offending party's estate caught fire, with them inside it.
Besides, Thomas Raith would be my second choice for selling gold safely after Harry Dresden himself.
He's a forty something year old from a rich family, he knows at least the basics of rich family finance, and he wont gouge us.
Plus, we owe him enough that a reasonable commission off a financial transaction is not actually a hardship.
5)Short of a massive organization effort like you see with federal Witness Protection, anonymity is designed to fend off nuisances and harassment, and give you a modicum of protection against scrubs. Its not an iron curtain.
The local IRS office know who is rich. Your financial managers know. Your law firm knows.
The CPA who handles your taxes knows. Your bank branch, and the national dept detailed to handle accounts of high net worth individuals know. Whoever issues your credit card account knows.
The real estate agent selling you a house and checking your credit rating, the car agent selling you a new truck; they all know.
Hell, your barista might be able to tell depending on your credit card.
This stuff is designed to fend off the riff raff.
Its not designed to stop people with connections willing to invest the effort from figuring out who's actually balling.
Worrying about it is a futile endeavor.
You significantly underestimate the world appetite for precious metals, I think. And our ability to move stuff legally.
Faking a find of Confederate gold, or a stash of mined gold that was buried and forgotten, is not all that difficult if you have Tool Constructs and the ability to check what such a find would look like online. For example:
Just pay your taxes on it and the IRS wont care.The Danielson brothers' claim to possession of buried treasure was also echoed in a 2013 case, when a couple walking their dog found $10 million in gold coins buried on their property in rural Northern California. It was impossible to know who originally buried the money—the coins all dated from the 19th century—so possession of the treasure went to the couple, though they were also required to pay federal and state income tax on their find, roughly 47 percent of the coins' worth.
Who Owns Buried Treasure?
In 1894, two boys found a tin can filled with gold coins in an old henhouse, putting in motion a legal quandary—are finders really keepers?www.topic.com
But there will definitely be chancers trying to claim it belongs to them or a relative, because people are like that.
Thats why lawyers exist.
Beside, once we have a solid financial base, the major use of gold is for off the books transactions.
Both with supernatural side players, and with grey market humans for things that we might want or need thats not easily accessible on the open market.
And in that case, having enough jewel-quality diamonds for the Resources 5 expense of building a Rating 5 magic robot?
Or enough free gold to bribe some supernaturals for crafting reagents?
Rather useful.
I could look up all the reaction chains that end up in gold, but there's a reason I only did this with mercury - it's the reaction that is actually used industrially (well, in laboratories). And there's a reason for that - it's the most efficient one. Everything else would be less productive. First guess - by orders of magnitude less productive. And even with mercury we got way too little to be efficient. And we'd have to spend literally months constantly running (as in 24/7) our magical tool constructs (which actually mimic real life devices in shape, meaning that they take a lot of space).
Very well, though from my understanding, magical materials required, well, magical rituals to produce, and stuff like sunlight couldn't be substituted (well, solar anima could work, as I understand, but we don't have that)
Let's just say that I disagree for now. If this becomes actually relevant we can discuss then.
And why not? If our hell is a technologically and socially advanced realm with multimillion population in it, then the idea of taxation wouldn't be at all alien to them. And giving tribute to the being in whose soul they reside and who they worship as a goddess (if we take loyalty merits) wouldn't be alien to them either. And, from my understanding, we can carry out personal equipment at least when we go out. So, a bag full of gems / jewelry, or a flash drive with schematics for something advanced for us to patent, or a golden breastplate to melt down once per month seem plausible.
We could partner with Harry for those skills. Split the cash. If the art is in the hands of people who we can't just crush with our infernal might (like at least some nazi stolen art is likely in the hands of, well, nazis), and isn't just lost somewhere, he could do the investigation work.
I just hope that the wilting of the rose is not "When Rosie's health takes a turn for the worse".
[X] Go home, take that Clorox bath then get as much sleep as you can before heading out to look for evidence to spring Harry from jail
- Location
- washington
For one we want our hell to be close to a utopia taxes are not part of that also if we want things from our hell we don't need taxes to get it good chances we'll be worshiped there.
Call it tribute. Or pay for handling the realm's interests in the outside world, or keeping herself safe (since, as I understand it, if we die, the hell goes with us). I won't be discussing taxation being required for society to function here, since that's a short way political derail.
- Location
- washington
I mean its not in a post scarcity society which the advanced enough means can make it I'm fairly sure. Also we don't need tribute if we ask for things someone in our hell is likely to provide it.
There's some topnotch research going into this update. Kudos to the QM
-Pity we failed the Outer Gates roll. At least Ankou are not fetches.
-I completely agree with @Modus_Tollens on harmless flirting with Bob.
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The Ankou is a psychopomp/servant of death in the mythology of Ireland, Wales,Cornwall and French Brittany.
He's described as a tall dude with white hair and either a scythe or a spear, who drives either a wheelbarrow, a cart, or a carriage pulled by two or four horses depending on the stories.
He is variously described as collecting lost souls, or protecting them. Every graveyard has one.
Notably, Ankou are NOT shapeshifters.
Anyway in the ATL, Eldest Ankou and his followers are Mab's primary antinecromancer agents
Chicago had a major necromancer problem ten months ago with the darkhallow.
And now Mab is looking for him in Chicago.
These things are connected.
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-Prophecy says:
One of those few that do are necromancers.
And we know that Chicago has had necromancer activity since October last year.
The prophecy gives a timeline of a week before something permanent happens.
Just leaving the city would mean the chase/pursuit would continue elsewhere, so it has to be rather more permanent than that.
WORKING THEORY
Remember Lictor? Gorfel's professed rival who we havent actually seen?
I think he is working with the FBI's Daedalus project people. Necromancer, but a New Man, not a member of the Old Guard who fought in WW2, and they know shit about recognizing bad juju.
They have successfully captured or otherwise imprisoned the Eldest Ankou with his help; see Agent Wright's phone call, and the talk about containing a Class IV Wright.
Lictor, as a necromancer, has plans to use the imprisoned spirit of death and his paraphernalia for a power boost, like the Kemmlerites tried last October with the Erl King, the Wild Hunt and a bunch of old spirits. And has been making preparations.
Among other things, a sniper to take Dresden out of the picture.
It would explain Gorfel's ill-fated attempt at the Shih bones; it was his own desperate attempt to keep up with his rival.
There's good odds that Greene was mixed up with Lictor, and was tasked with keepin an eye on Dresden.
We know canonically he had FBI contacts, and here his spouse is FBI. If my theory is right, that would be how he met Lictor. Hence that odd visit after the sniper tried and failed to kill Gorfel, and why we found Greene outside Dresden's apartment after getting beat.
Whether he was working with him voluntarily, or due to blackmail, I have no idea.
Lictor is my current leading suspect for who had him killed and framed Dresden; powerful ghosts can be shapeshifters.
The sniper obviously works for Lictor.
I think Lydia's father is the Eldest Ankou, or mantles him. His daughter is Winter-aligned with streaks of white hair, he has an Old Welsh library, and there are very few Welsh speakers in the US or Canada. And his globetrotting would fit moving around squashing necromancers that came sufficiently to Mab's notice to be considered an issue.
We havent spoken to Lydia for a couple weeks, and we will need to ask Daniel if his girlfriend's father is missing.
And to check the Chicago Police Department missing person reports, which should be public.
We also need to see Morty Lindqvist, the ectomancer and medium.
If there has been a psychopomp/spirit of death here for months, word would have gotten around the ghost community.
If there's a necromancer active, word also gets around.
COMMENTARY
-Pity we failed the Outer Gates roll. At least Ankou are not fetches.
-I completely agree with @Modus_Tollens on harmless flirting with Bob.
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Oberour ar maro. Translated, means Henchman of Death
The Ankou is a psychopomp/servant of death in the mythology of Ireland, Wales,Cornwall and French Brittany.
He's described as a tall dude with white hair and either a scythe or a spear, who drives either a wheelbarrow, a cart, or a carriage pulled by two or four horses depending on the stories.
He is variously described as collecting lost souls, or protecting them. Every graveyard has one.
Notably, Ankou are NOT shapeshifters.
Anyway in the ATL, Eldest Ankou and his followers are Mab's primary antinecromancer agents
Chicago had a major necromancer problem ten months ago with the darkhallow.
And now Mab is looking for him in Chicago.
These things are connected.
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Mab gave Harry this job four days ago. This gives a timeline for when she started looking for the Eldest/when she lost contact with him: within the last week. This is also significant.
-Prophecy says:
Reading the description of the Ankou, it reads like someone has stolen something of his, his paraphernalia, his power, that he was after recovering. Few types of people want anything to do with the possessions of an agent of death.
One of those few that do are necromancers.
And we know that Chicago has had necromancer activity since October last year.
The prophecy gives a timeline of a week before something permanent happens.
Just leaving the city would mean the chase/pursuit would continue elsewhere, so it has to be rather more permanent than that.
WORKING THEORY
Remember Lictor? Gorfel's professed rival who we havent actually seen?
I think he is working with the FBI's Daedalus project people. Necromancer, but a New Man, not a member of the Old Guard who fought in WW2, and they know shit about recognizing bad juju.
They have successfully captured or otherwise imprisoned the Eldest Ankou with his help; see Agent Wright's phone call, and the talk about containing a Class IV Wright.
Lictor, as a necromancer, has plans to use the imprisoned spirit of death and his paraphernalia for a power boost, like the Kemmlerites tried last October with the Erl King, the Wild Hunt and a bunch of old spirits. And has been making preparations.
Among other things, a sniper to take Dresden out of the picture.
It would explain Gorfel's ill-fated attempt at the Shih bones; it was his own desperate attempt to keep up with his rival.
There's good odds that Greene was mixed up with Lictor, and was tasked with keepin an eye on Dresden.
We know canonically he had FBI contacts, and here his spouse is FBI. If my theory is right, that would be how he met Lictor. Hence that odd visit after the sniper tried and failed to kill Gorfel, and why we found Greene outside Dresden's apartment after getting beat.
Whether he was working with him voluntarily, or due to blackmail, I have no idea.
Lictor is my current leading suspect for who had him killed and framed Dresden; powerful ghosts can be shapeshifters.
The sniper obviously works for Lictor.
I think Lydia's father is the Eldest Ankou, or mantles him. His daughter is Winter-aligned with streaks of white hair, he has an Old Welsh library, and there are very few Welsh speakers in the US or Canada. And his globetrotting would fit moving around squashing necromancers that came sufficiently to Mab's notice to be considered an issue.
We havent spoken to Lydia for a couple weeks, and we will need to ask Daniel if his girlfriend's father is missing.
And to check the Chicago Police Department missing person reports, which should be public.
We also need to see Morty Lindqvist, the ectomancer and medium.
If there has been a psychopomp/spirit of death here for months, word would have gotten around the ghost community.
If there's a necromancer active, word also gets around.
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Vote closed. On with the Clorox