Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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No, as you do not know enough about it, about the deals of fey generally. The concept unlike 'escape from Arctis Tor' does not have much weight to you.
OOC, help is too vague for me the GM who is not omniscient about your intentions to do, IC your exaltation does not understand what you would consider 'help' unless you spell it out clearer because it gets blurry about your intentions, too close to looking at itself.
As for using it as prophecy in general you can, but the more humans or other beings with free will are involved the more vague your responses will be. So 'how long will it take until the bomb will go off?' is a valid question and so is 'what damage will it cause', but as you go into 'what will people do' especially as you project it into the future beyond the scene it goes vague. It is an investigative tool meant to be used on the past, the present and the future only as pertains to the scene
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I am legitimately pretty pleased with either option winning.
To reference another media...
Seems we have the Fated List of Minor Prophecies. Rather than the whole list of prophecies
Thank you for clarifications! I am glad we were able to reach a sort-of consensus on our own though.
To reference another media...
Seems we have the Fated List of Minor Prophecies. Rather than the whole list of prophecies
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Thanks for the clarification. That makes the Crown very useful indeed. But we have to be careful not to take everything as a guarantee if we ask a very open question that makes it extrapolate. Making false conclusions from information that is no longer correct could end badly, especially if we presume that any factors did not change.
In all likelihood, asking more grounded questions would over all be a better idea most of the time. Something to keep in the mind for the future use of the Crown of Eyes.
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Ah.. also another use of your Crown for characterization is stuff that asks 'what are people like?'. So for instance if you meet Nicodamous you can ask 'What does Nicodamus Archleone most fear?' That may be actionable right that instant, it may not, but you can bet it would be something he would try to keep secret. Hell you could ask 'What does Anduriel most fear?'
It is an incredible tool as long as you leverage it right.
It is an incredible tool as long as you leverage it right.
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Your vote is messed up.
OK, explaining things to Charity it is.
Arc 0 Post 9: Explaining the Inexplicable
Explaining the Inexplicable
5th of July 2006 A.D.
"I can't... I can't talk right now," you raise your hand to the faerie woman, less in warding and more just because you can't play those games right now, even if Usum seems eager to play them, especially since they seem eager to play them. "Mom can we just go in the back to talk I don't want them all to hear and see..." you wave at the others around, not Harry, you trust him, but like Thomas the-really-pretty-swordsman and the police officer. You are reasonably sure Chicago PD cannot arrest you on 'assault and battery by magic' or something, but you would rather not risk it.
At first she does not say anything, just following along, watching you... almost like she thought you were a danger. No, you remember from that time you had a really bad cold when you were seven when she had watched over you all night, like she thinks you are sick.
"I don't think a few doors, or even a few walls are going to make a difference to her hearing," she nods towards the fey girl. "I think this can wait until we get to Saint Marry's."
In spite of yourself you cannot help but resent that last bit. Want to see if I'll burst into flames on holy ground? you manage to bite back the snark you would later regret. "Mom, I need to talk about this now to you not confess my sins to Father Forthil."
"You would know," she says in a noncommittal tone that you have heard enough times to know it means the opposite.
She did come with me though away from the others, she is treating me like Molly, not like a Fallen in a Molly suit, you remind yourself.
Inside you find an old desk defaced by enough layers of graffiti to give an anthropologist a field day illuminated only by the faint light of evening filtering through the broken window. The chair for that desk is thankfully not lit because you think those are rat droppings and you do not want to know for sure. In the other room you can hear Harry talking to the newcomers, but you cannot make out the words, so at least out of normal hearing for what that's worth.
OK, no sitting down, deep breath... And as soon as you start talking it all comes out: "The deal wasn't really about something specific. Not like I swore to serve anyone or anything, in fact he explicitly said I could do whatever I wanted and I just needed to pick it up and..."
"Molly..." your mother does not sound angry, she sounds tired and sad. "Listen to yourself, why would anything wholesome just give you power like that if not to change you, to corrupt you. That is what magic does."
"Oh you mean like..." you start sarcastically, about to say 'Harry' and start that fight you had been avoiding when the demon in your head pipes in. "I could not use the power I had been given into stewardship without one of the Chosen anymore than you could have escaped the trap of your tormentor by merely the strength of your limbs"
"It couldn't get out without a mortal soul to carry it. I had to pick..." What kind of crown of hellish flame I wanted, you edit out your words again again, it's getting harder. "I mean, I don't feel like I've got to be all cackling evil, or corrupt or sinister or anything, just that I've got a tap to some kind of...of... magic nuclear reactor that I can just dial up and down which includes a magic sword that comes out of my soul, and I'm still not helping am I? Dad is going to be so mad with me, isn't he?"
"Oh... sweetheart, it's not about your father, your father loves you, but you can't keep doing magic, it's going to hurt you..." she reaches out to touch your hand, then drops it instinctively. You definitely are not running a fever now, some quiet corner of your brain with a liking for dark humor offers. "You have to let it go. It's the only way."
You had been ready for her to yell at you, if you are being honest you deserved a lot worse than that for what you did to Rosie, what you had not been ready for was her asking you, practically pleading with you to do what you are almost sure is impossible now. Why, why do you hate magic so much mother?
Upon your brow green flames burn unseen to mortal eyes and in those flames dwell eyes that pierce flesh and bone, metal and mind, space and time. They are not yet open, but you can will them so.
What do you do?
[] Ask her why she hates magic so much (Empathy+Charisma)
-[] Write in Stunt Optional
[] Look through the Crown of Eyes to see why your mother hates magic so much
[] Go to Saint Marry's, maybe with Father Forthil's help or Harry's you can talk your mother down
[] Write in
OOC: Every time Molly just stops herself from saying something to set off Charity that was a willpower roll. Turns out having 9 willpower is good for more than throwing off spells.
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I believe the one thing all Exaltations have in common is that they never, ever go to a person who wouldn't use them.
We theoretically could, but if we got an Exaltation in the first place, then we are not the kind of person to try to lay it down and not use it.
We theoretically could, but if we got an Exaltation in the first place, then we are not the kind of person to try to lay it down and not use it.
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Is this a successful or failed roll on Charities part?
Also we should probably tell our mom how much shes hurt us. Successful will power rolls or not
Though maybe we should spread that character growth around a bit.
[X] Look through the Crown of Eyes to see why your mother hates magic so much
...naaaaah
Bored already?
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How about something like that:
[] Point to you big and rather severe legwound.
-[] "I am not using any specific magic right now, but that there doesn't bleed and barely hurts. I'm pretty sure I'm changed beyond the option not to use this."
[] Point to you big and rather severe legwound.
-[] "I am not using any specific magic right now, but that there doesn't bleed and barely hurts. I'm pretty sure I'm changed beyond the option not to use this."
Is this a successful or failed roll on Charities part?
Also we should probably tell our mom how much shes hurt us. Successful will power rolls or not
Though maybe we should spread that character growth around a bit.
[X] Look through the Crown of Eyes to see why your mother hates magic so much
Its on point.
Charity did not roll anything here, right now 'taking care of her kid who is in deep trouble' is the default so she is going to use a soft touch, unless Molly says something to set her off. The Saint Marry's part was not intended to hurt anyone, that is what she thinks of as sanctuary and the hate/fear of magic... well I do not want to spoil that for anyone who has not read the books, though once that is settled I will be happy to explain.
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Telling a freaked out parent that is... uh... not likely to improve the situation.
Logic doesn't convince people. Especially not people who are letting their emotions make their decisions for them. (She IS a parent though, so ill cut her slack on this.)
I figured as much.
She also has reason to think that this wouldn't be permanent. As should we. We both know people can stop using magic, and people can give up the Denarians.
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Call it a start.
The priest and the wizard will ultimatly confirm that whatever happened to us is irreversible.
They can even try and exorcism if they think that's fun, not like it would affect us in any way.
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A start to what?
It's just gonna make them start arguing again.
Mollys mother pulled Harry for this mission. She is abundantly aware of the utility value of magic. She hates it and wants us to not use it anyway.
Honestly I don't really see a way for us to not be in conflict with Charity. So, this will be...interesting.
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Also now her Daughter making pacts with demonic entities.
So thats a new reason for her to dislike magic.There are a couple of ways, but understanding is a good first step.
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We made only one Pact, singular.Also now her Daughter making pacts with demonic entities.
Any future pact, demonic entities will make with us, not the other way around.
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[X] Ask her why she hates magic so much (Empathy+Charisma)
-[X] "What can I say to you that will make you believe that this isn't malicious, what can I say... I can't say anything that will change your mind because nothing can be convincingly said to you that you won't dismiss out of hand because you believe that I'm either not in control of my own actions or am being manipulated by something, so regardless of if you believe me I'm telling you that I'm in complete control of myself and this power, hell if needs be after all this fairy bullshit is dealt with we can have others verify but until then can you at least stop treating me like I'm sick or ill."
I feel like this gets to the heart of the problem we're having here.
-[X] "What can I say to you that will make you believe that this isn't malicious, what can I say... I can't say anything that will change your mind because nothing can be convincingly said to you that you won't dismiss out of hand because you believe that I'm either not in control of my own actions or am being manipulated by something, so regardless of if you believe me I'm telling you that I'm in complete control of myself and this power, hell if needs be after all this fairy bullshit is dealt with we can have others verify but until then can you at least stop treating me like I'm sick or ill."
I feel like this gets to the heart of the problem we're having here.
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I can feel the motherly disapproval from here.