Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

You do remember that the E5 exalted host won by right of respawn right? They had enough juice to fight gods and primordials when numbers were on their side, but the plan all along was to go through a lot of heroes.

If the exalted could individually match the primordials that early in their career then they wouldn't have made 700 of them, their Lunar mates, the Sidereals, and whole armies of dragon bloods.
Also they used their natures against them. Primordials are unable to use their power when they cant leverage their mythos while exalted dont have that limitation. They probably created situations, sacrificing themselfs in dozens in order to weaken them for an instant or two in order to be slayed.
 
I think that people are talking past each other to a a degree. This is how I see it
  1. It is undeniable that the Exalted were designed to function on the same stage as the Primordials and in this they succeeded, they won the War against the latter.
  2. It is debatable if any single Celestial Exalted could defeat a primordial, certainly none did during the war, the most that could be said was they killed core souls alone, but then again they just kept growing after the war
  3. It would be improbable for any Exalted to achieve the power to supplant the Primordials on their own, the most they could do was emulation before the Yozis handed the Infernals the proverbial codes in the form of their charms to mix and match, thus leading to the potential of Devil Tiger
  4. It would be (practically) impossible for any single Exalt, and nearly so for a group to reproduce the work of the Primordials working in concert, that is to say Creation itself
 
You do remember that the E5 exalted host won by right of respawn right? They had enough juice to fight gods and primordials when numbers were on their side, but the plan all along was to go through a lot of heroes.

If the exalted could individually match the primordials that early in their career then they wouldn't have made 700 of them, their Lunar mates, the Sidereals, and whole armies of dragon bloods.

Also they used their natures against them. Primordials are unable to use their power when they cant leverage their mythos while exalted dont have that limitation. They probably created situations, sacrificing themselfs in dozens in order to weaken them for an instant or two in order to be slayed.

This is the best narrative take I have encountered on an Exalted slaying a Primordial. It has inspired much of my thinking on the Primordial War and I expect that others would find it useful in understanding this conflict. Kudos to Earthscorpion anf his old Exalted - Familiar of Zero fanfic A Green Sun Illuminates The Void

The woman beside her burns with light, like the setting sun through flawless ice. The pale-skinned red-head gestures, and the transparent knife she throws splits, sparkling in the light as the shatterglass spread slices through the archons before her. The deva scream as the light of holy judgement burns through them, and their souls are devoured in the conflagration, dead and gone forever. A single glance back shows the squadron behind her, serried ranks of jade armour and weaponry within the fury of the elements that whips around them, and perfectly disciplined, they march through the ranks of their foe, burning and poisoning and cutting and destroying, utterly.

She burns too, terrible sun-bright radiance leaching all colour from the world. She raises her blade, and, one roared work cutting through the noise of battle, orders the charge.

These deva were only the beginning. Gold-Shattered Arrow had already cut through their patrons, and their ultimate foe was weak, depleted from the effort to respawning all the third-circle archons that he had led the children of Mela against. He was weak, vulnerable, and they had bought so many forces, that covered from horizon to horizon. Dragonblooded and Dragon-kings and the People of Adamant and seven score Chosen of both the Sun and Moon marched together, anima banners illuminating the world with an intensity which matched the Daystar.

The Primordial fills the other horizon.

She still charges.
"Who are you!" she screams, leaping up, running along the mountain-jouten, a constant refrain. Her blade is gone, sacrificed in the ploy, but it worked! The others are left behind, holding off the force of the Archon Samaneth, who draws upon her Progenitor and is mighty because of it, but she has broken through to the jouten! It pelted her with rock and pain and the authority born of its nature, but it could not strike her. She screams at it, attacks its identity, and it cannot fight her, for while it is uncertain, it is weak.

And one fist-blow breaks through the last barricade upon the Mountain, to reach the Beast Upon the Mountain, and it is her foe and she is ready.

It is not an eternal testament to its own existence. It relies on others

Her hands fasten around the neck of the titanic being, and she fastens on, squeezing tight and tighter, with force that can split rocks and shatter mountains and she feels the jouten buck and fight under her, but it cannot break free, and it is weak, so weak, and the uncertainty that she forces upon it is imperfect, uncentred.

"Who are you! Tell me who you are!" she roars, as it tries to break free, but cannot, and as its lifeblood of motonic essence flows away, it panics. "What are you without servants, without your thralls! Creation does not remember your name! Who are you! Where are you! What are you! Tell me!"

And then.

A simple snap.

And blazing like the dawn, she kills it utterly, the rush as it rushes into her, and something screams in her skull about how wrong this is, now that this impossible deed has been done and its in her mind and in her soul and it hurts, an agonised moment of infinity reaching out forever, and...

... and then it is nothing more than a corpse.

"Who are you? You're nothing," she says to the corpse of Mardukth.

PS: This is the single Exalted strangling a Primordial that is mentioned in later posts. I am not sure how much of Merela is fanon that Earthscorpion created or old canon.
 
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Isn't there a Solar that strangled a primordial to death alone? One that didn't need to breath, by the way. Pretty sure I saw multiple independent references to that event.
Technically one must have dealt that final blow, yes.
The one who later became Queen and Sol's lover.

But that happened most likely after countless other Exalted died to kill that Primordial's deva and reduce his motepool.
 
Isn't there a Solar that strangled a primordial to death alone? One that didn't need to breath, by the way. Pretty sure I saw multiple independent references to that event.
No, there isn't.
Merela delivered the killing blow to a Primordial using what was called Martial Arts in 2e and Brawl in 3e, the unarmed combat/Solar Hero Style/strangling-and-wrestling charms. That event has been exaggerated in the retelling, repeatedly.
 
  1. It would be improbable for any Exalted to achieve the power to supplant the Primordials on their own, the most they could do was emulation before the Yozis handed the Infernals the proverbial codes in the form of their charms to mix and match, thus leading to the potential of Devil Tiger
  2. It would be (practically) impossible for any single Exalt, and nearly so for a group to reproduce the work of the Primordials working in concert, that is to say Creation itself
These are debatable due to a singular issue - there's no indication that I know of (and please correct me if I am wrong) that exalted growth is mechanically (in-universe) capped at E10. Given enough time, I see no reason why a given Solar wouldn't rise to, say E20, and surpass a Primordial. There's also this bit of text (from Dreams of the First Age: Lords of Creation (revised)):
Charms running from Essence 1 to 5 are detailed
on page 184 of Exalted.
Charms having Essence minimums from 1 to 5
encompass the complete array of effects for which the
Solars were given purpose. Having conquered chaos
and ascended to rulership of Creation, Solars expand
to represent a purpose for which there was no design.
Charms beyond the Essence minimum of 5 suggest
a force for which there is no peer, and a measure for
which there is no call. In short, these effects equip the
Solars with a new array of effects of such magnitude and
scope that there could be no known reason. Beyond
this point, Solars transcend humanity, expand their
notice beyond the core of existence, bargain with
incomprehensible forces, and build new worlds—if
only to have more to conquer.
Charms with an Essence minimum of 6 leave be-
hind worldly miracles—the Exalt now engages in the
work of gods. Her power redefines her standing among
the Exalted, and it is on the back of these wonders that
an Age may be built.
Charms with an Essence minimum of 7 depict
the authorial primacy of one who knows no value she
cannot change and no limit she cannot reach. These
miracles leave marks on the world that last for untold
generations, each application a legend unto itself. The
holy might contained by these Charms evoke such awe
and terror that the Celestial Exalted look upon them
with shocked remove.
Charms with an Essence minimum of 8 touch the
very foundation of the universe. The Solar lays hands
upon the forces of the very cosmos, and they recognize
in her Essence a peer.
Charms with an Essence minimum of 9 affect all
the heavenly glory of the sun unbound. Solar power
expands almost beyond the capacity of the world to
contain it. What is the possible purpose of such great
and terrible power?
Charms with an Essence minimum of 10 denote
powers beyond those which forged the universe. Not
even the Primordials fully understand Essence 10; at
this level of effect, the intellects which defined ex-
istence find themselves in the position of discovery.
What challenges even the Primordials, a Solar may
come naturally to grasp and engender: power beyond
all reason.
 
It's a primordial effect the only thing the primordials ever did that had the same reach as the Salinan working was the imposition of linear time.
This isnt true.

  • The invention of Creation in the first place, along with everything that came with it, from the invention of fate to the cycle of reincarnation to the elements to the gods.
  • The very invention of the concept of an Exaltation in the first place, which is something none of the Exalts have even managed monkey-see monkey-do copies despite lots of effort.
  • The Three Spheres Cataclysm eliminating 90% of Creation, something the Deliberative didnt fix .

Thats off the top of my head.
The Exalted Host generally expanded and elaborated on what their forbears created, they didnt establish original concepts and shit.


The Salinan Working did ONE thing:
It encoded sorcery in the fabric of the world so everyone with the ability who was inside Creation could learn it independently without a teacher. Thats the cosmic equivalent of writing graffiti on an existing wall.

It didnt change anything about sorcery, or even mortal ability to learn it. Mortals could already learn sorcery if they had Awakened Essence and tutoring.
I admit I was wrong.
Thank you for tracking down that citation.

Im sorry I cant find the exact citation where someone did a comparison of dicepools for Exalted Second Edition's Celestials by Essence leve, comparing a Solaroid against a Lunar, Sidereal and Alchemical. All the Third Edition content has made it harder to track down the Second Edition discussions.

To my recollection?
Alchemicals out of chargen start lower than Solars and Lunars, but by E3-4ish begin to catch up in their area of specialty, and an E5 Alchemical is something else.

Especially in Crafting, where an E4 Alchemical with the right charm(Creator Fugue Construction Engine, available at E4) counts as a group of Magnitude 4(151 to 300) crafters for large scale projects.
Exalted at E5 = E10 Primordial's.
Thats false. Egregiously so.
Self-evidently false, at that; they wouldn't have needed a respawn mechanic if a single Exalt could match one of the Makers of Creation.
Exalted did develop life extension charms, after the first of them died to old age, and the work well enough that nobody else is known to have died of old age.
Im pretty sure this is also false.
Because if this was true, their reaction to the first natural cause death would not have been a Realm-wide war.
....the narrative of Solaroid Exalts as Primordial+ is pretty consistent through 2E.
I dont agree with this either.
I just dont have the effort to spare to dig up the books and look for citations otherwise.
 
These are debatable due to a singular issue - there's no indication that I know of (and please correct me if I am wrong) that exalted growth is mechanically (in-universe) capped at E10. Given enough time, I see no reason why a given Solar wouldn't rise to, say E20, and surpass a Primordial. There's also this bit of text (from Dreams of the First Age: Lords of Creation (revised)):

Yeah, that is the reason for the two points above being presented like I am a politician in a weasel-word competition :V

As a concept the Exalted should not be limited by anything forever, they should be able to grow past any plateau buuut if we look at how long it takes them to achieve E10, the time it would take them to surpass it exists beyond all narrative space. The point is that they can, not that they will in any sane story, hence practically impossible.
 
[] Plan Psalm 34:18
-[X] Excellency as needed
-[X] Willpower for TTC
-[X] roll to activate flight without anima
-[X] Explain to Katherine that she had been manipulated to kill her only remaining family
-[X] [Stunt] Ghosting along the fire escape, Molly floats just above the surface to avoid making a sound. As she goes she turns her mind's eye to what she had seen; strangers slipping behind one familiar face after another as the love of a sister blindly recoils against itself. Katherine isn't the only one to be led in ignorance to destruction.
—[X] As it had that very first time, something in the heart behind her heart twisted at the thought. A kinship deeper than memory found in treachery and the spilling of a sibling's blood.
—[X] Moving in from Katherine's blind spot, Molly's hand clenched and found itself wrapped around a hammer. That hammer - as if plucked from memory - rust spread like dried blood across the head. Leaning on the rail next to her, arranged so that her burden is the first thing Katherine will see from the corner of her eye, Molly speaks.
—[X] "There is something you deserve to know about how all of this happened before we go any further". Something in her thoughts seemed to leak into her voice; not the empathy of strangers, nor the acid of well meant pity, but recognition. An understanding so red and raw and human that it was almost painful to hear.

——
Psalm 34:18 "The Lord is near the brokenhearted, and saves the crushed in spirit"

Katherine is in many ways a 'there but for the grace of god go I' for Molly. She defines herself as a big sister to more than just her younger siblings, and nemesis led her into hurting some of her people deeper than an iron hammer could hope to match.

How much longer would it have taken for her to turn against more of them left unchecked? Had Uriel not saved her where would she be now?

If not dead, then here.

Or so I believe she'd be tempted to think. It's not like she knows how canon went.
 
Yeah, that is the reason for the two points above being presented like I am a politician in a weasel-word competition :V

As a concept the Exalted should not be limited by anything forever, they should be able to grow past any plateau buuut if we look at how long it takes them to achieve E10, the time it would take them to surpass it exists beyond all narrative space. The point is that they can, not that they will in any sane story, hence practically impossible.
Point of order:
I am pretty sure it was established that E10 is the cap in Exalted.
Either in the Errata, or one of the later books.

EDIT
Its in the Errata:
Scroll of Errata pg 6 said:
Traits
Essence
Essence Ratings over 10

(p. 114)
The Essence scale of Exalted goes from 1 to 10. As Essence
10 characters can be reasonably described as nearly omnipo-
tent in comparison to lesser beings, there is no need for any
higher Essence ratings to be present in the game.
 
Moving in from Katherine's blind spot, Molly's hand clenched and found itself wrapped around a hammer. That hammer - as if plucked from memory - rust spread like dried blood across the head. Leaning on the rail next to her, arranged so that her burden is the first thing Katherine will see from the corner of her eye, Molly speaks.

You are in full view right now and she has good Perception+Awareness, the only way you are getting in her blind spot is ATP which will cost a mote and since you are at 6/15 it is important to ask do you want to spend that?

Point of order:
I am pretty sure it was established that E10 is the cap in Exalted.
Either in the Errata, or one of the later books.

EDIT
Its in the Errata:

That is not quite the same ting as saying Essence over 10 cannot exist in lore IMO, it is that there is no need for any higher Essence ratings to be present in the game. To me this feels like the same kind of temporizing I am doing, by saying that there is no same story in which that would be relevant.
 
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Im pretty sure this is also false.
Because if this was true, their reaction to the first natural cause death would not have been a Realm-wide war.
Here are the quotes:
THE EXALTED LIFE SPAN
Without anagathic assistance, Dragon-Bloods live anywhere from two to five centuries. Those with a particu-
larly strong grasp of Essence can live longer, up to perhaps six. The oldest surviving Dragon-Blood as of Year 3516,
Saibok Gauto (see Lords of Creation, pp. 156-158) is a survivor of the Primordial War, but he's unique, and no
one's really sure why his body refuses to give in to the ravages of age. Twilight savants theorize it has to do with his
extraordinary connection to his elemental aspect. With the assistance of anagathics developed during the Thousand
Struggle Era, Dragon-Blooded can expect to live for six to eight centuries, or up to a millennium if their grasp of
Essence is profound.
Celestial Exalted such as Solars and Lunars naturally live for 2,000 to 3,000 years. The Solars have developed
a Charm called Extended Life Prana to extend their life span past that. Motic experts extrapolate an expected life
span of 5,000 to 7,000 years and are already at work formulating another Charm to extend their life spans further,
perhaps to immortality. The Lunars have had no success creating a duplicate of Extended Life Prana, but they
have created Charms to allow a sort of hibernation, during which time they don't age. In addition to life-extension
Charms, Celestial Exalted who use anagathic drugs, surgeries or other techniques can live up to six millennia. Sa-
vants aren't sure how long someone with both Extended Life Prana and anagathic treatments might live, but the
common estimate is 10,000 years.
Sidereals live from 3,000 to 5,000 years and can't extend their lives by any artificial means.
This doesn't paint a complete picture. Very few Exalted die of old age.
Most Solar Exalted during the Era of Dreams are 750 to 1,000 years old. No more than a dozen Solars who re-
member the Primordial War survive, and no more than 50 survive who recall the time before the Thousand Struggle
Era (and approximately two dozen of those have withdrawn entirely from Deliberative society at this point). Most
Celestial Exalted have reincarnated anywhere from five to eight times between the Primordial War and the Era
of Dreams, and the average Sidereal has lived only one fewer life than the average Solar or Lunar. The Exalted
lose their lives to feuds, experiments, wars, accidents (though they're loath to admit it) and, in a few cases, simple
boredom and a desire to begin anew
I wasn't able to find the charm itself, sadly.
The very invention of the concept of an Exaltation in the first place, which is something none of the Exalts have even managed monkey-see monkey-do copies despite lots of effort.
I am fairly sure that was a deliberate block placed into exaltations by Autochton, like how solars cannot understand how alchemicals are made by flat, with no rolls possible. At least that would make sense.
The Three Spheres Cataclysm eliminating 90% of Creation, something the Deliberative didnt fix .
Fairly sure that the proposal to do just that was one of the main reasons for Usurpation:
PREHISTORIC RECORDS
Creation was much changed by prehistory's end. In
the instant before Malfeas was sealed, the Yozi known
as She Who Lives In Her Name made a last assault
on Creation's fabric, burning away not merely places
and peoples, but concepts and possibilities. Memories
the survivors carry are forever lacking and inadequate.
Records seem to form a complete picture, with no obvi-
ous gaps, but when those who lived through prehistory
try to recall it, they encounter a maddening sense that
information on nine out of every 10 important things
from that time is missing. Even the context wherein
those memories should exist is gone.
Try as they might, the savants and metaphysi-
cians of the Age of Man have never found evidence
of what She Who Lives In Her Name destroyed.
They hypothesize lands, gods, forms of magic, peers,
servitors, directions, elements, spatial or temporal
dimensions—even types of Exalted. The consensus is
that anything theoreticians are capable of proposing
couldn't possibly be the answer. A few Cauldronists (see
pp. 42-43) have proposed altering Creation through
all possible permutations, in the hopes of discovering
by process of elimination all impossible variations—
and thus everything She Who Lives In Her Name

burned—but such suggestions are usually offered in
jest. Most theoreticians have abandoned the task and
turned their attention to achievable pursuits.
See bolded underlined part. That was mostly proposed in jest, but mostly means at least some were serious.
 
I am fairly sure that was a deliberate block placed into exaltations by Autochton, like how solars cannot understand how alchemicals are made by flat, with no rolls possible. At least that would make sense.
Or it was something fundamental to Autochthon. The other primordials couldn't replicate his work either after all.

He was the only one who had his own death written into the same things that made him strong in a way that was about overcoming it rather wallowing like the Neverborn.

His greatest act was the culmination of the narrative behind his mythos; Autochthon battled death, and in the work of his hands he won.

Exalts are mortals - but they draw their power from things beyond death, decay, and diminishment in one way or another. They deny and eclipse it, master and command it, but they don't accept it into every facet of what they are and beat the reaper under his own rules*.

Exalts are amazing, but it's worth remembering what the primordials are** beyond stompy monsters. Praise the sun and all that, but Autochthon didn't get where he was by collecting bottle caps.

* Yeah Abyssals are a thing. No they don't count. They were compelled to join up with team death rather than fighting it on its own terms. Which can be seen in how they don't decay or have a lifespan limit.

** And potentially infernals may become.

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You are in full view right now and she has good Perception+Awareness, the only way you are getting in her blind spot is ATP which will cost a mote and since you are at 6/15 it is important to ask do you want to spend that?
I had thought based on the way we had time for that whole conversation and to use NWS that she wasn't paying attention to us so we'd have time to maneuver away and then back around.

That said, I think the essence is worth it here. We've got Lydia, Harry, Micheal, and Lash as backup. As long as we have some motes for our shaping defense and willpower for IPM we should be safe even if we fail.


[X] Plan Psalm 34:18
-[X] Excellency as needed
-[X] Willpower for TTC
-[X] roll to activate flight without anima
-[X] Essence for ATP
-[X] Explain to Katherine that she had been manipulated to kill her only remaining family
-[X] [Stunt] Ghosting along the fire escape, Molly floats just above the surface to avoid making a sound. As she goes she turns her mind's eye to what she had seen; strangers slipping behind one familiar face after another as the love of a sister blindly recoils against itself. Katherine isn't the only one to be led in ignorance to destruction.
—[X] As it had that very first time, something in the heart behind her heart twisted at the thought. A kinship deeper than memory found in treachery and the spilling of a sibling's blood.
—[X] Moving in from Katherine's blind spot, Molly's hand clenched and found itself wrapped around a hammer. That hammer - as if plucked from memory - rust spread like dried blood across the head. Leaning on the rail next to her, arranged so that her burden is the first thing Katherine will see from the corner of her eye, Molly speaks.
—[X] "There is something you deserve to know about how all of this happened before we go any further". Something in her thoughts seemed to leak into her voice; not the empathy of strangers, nor the acid of well meant pity, but recognition. An understanding so red and raw and human that it was almost painful to hear.
 
We see their works in canon.
The Solar Deliberative do nothing on that tier despite thousands of years and effectively unlimited resources and the cooperation of Yu-Shan. Surpassing Primordials is not why they were created.
IIRC one of the biggest things that set off the Usurpation was some of the Solars deciding that Creation had too many fundamental design flaws and they should just blow the whole thing up and build a better one. While they were no where near the majority they were actually gaining ground politically, which indicates to me that it was possible.

And given Wyld-shaping technique is basically "Create Creation, the charm" I see no reason they couldn't do this.
 
IIRC one of the biggest things that set off the Usurpation was some of the Solars deciding that Creation had too many fundamental design flaws and they should just blow the whole thing up and build a better one. While they were no where near the majority they were actually gaining ground politically, which indicates to me that it was possible.

And given Wyld-shaping technique is basically "Create Creation, the charm" I see no reason they couldn't do this.

Even if that's true I remain skeptical. The great curse was pushing the Solars to greater and greater extremes and they'd had unchallenged divine authority for millennia at that point. Underestimating the difficulty or consequences of their actions would make more sense.

There's also the matter of how the exalts are all fundamentally creatures of creation. The primordials needed each other because genuinely making something beyond sustained expression of their mythos required alien concepts to alloy with and the chaos of Rakasha/the raw wyld didn't have the substance to cut it.

Even if they could blow it up and start over anything they did would essentially be creation with a haircut and body art no matter how crazy unless they dug up more primordials from somewhere.
 
There's also the matter of how the exalts are all fundamentally creatures of creation. The primordials needed each other because genuinely making something beyond sustained expression of their mythos required alien concepts to alloy with and the chaos of Rakasha/the raw wyld didn't have the substance to cut it.

Even if they could blow it up and start over anything they did would essentially be creation with a haircut and body art no matter how crazy unless they dug up more primordials from somewhere.
Creation already was destroyed, and rebuild by the Exalted once already the "Time of Cascading years". The exalted where throwing around so many 6+ charms they broke creation just by existing at it. It took both a few days, and a few thousand years before the Exalted got around to fixing Creation. They absolutely could do the same thing the primordials did to make Luna, and just run thou every possible permutation to get everything that was destroyed.
 
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It never got a write-up in 2e, I think. There is a 1E charm with the same name, tho.
Even if that's true I remain skeptical. The great curse was pushing the Solars to greater and greater extremes and they'd had unchallenged divine authority for millennia at that point.
No, that's just people being people, actually. Great Curse did a lot of different things, but Exalted Host trying not to die of boredom in the aftermath of the Primordial War is just people being people.
Creation already was destroyed, and rebuild by the Exalted once already the "Time of Cascading years".
This is misleading. It was not E6+ charms, but time-manipulation stuff IIRC. What happened is that timelines fractured, and then a bunch of isolated Exalts did a bunch of protagonist'y things in their isolated timelines and then timelines re-merged.

Every single Exalt involved later claimed that it was them who Did A Thing to save everyone, which is... It is time travel stuff, idk. Prolly true, in a way. But they certainly didn't brick-by-brick reassemble it back up from the atoms or whatever.
 
These are debatable due to a singular issue - there's no indication that I know of (and please correct me if I am wrong) that exalted growth is mechanically (in-universe) capped at E10. Given enough time, I see no reason why a given Solar wouldn't rise to, say E20, and surpass a Primordial. There's also this bit of text (from Dreams of the First Age: Lords of Creation (revised)):
Yes there is, there is hard cap at E10 that no one can get pass.
 
Is this discussion at all in any case relevant to this quest? Or should you all take this to the Exalted general discussion thread here. I am sure that the lore masters there can help you figure it out.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Anaja on Dec 18, 2023 at 11:04 PM, finished with 101 posts and 19 votes.

  • [X] Explain to Katherine that she had been manipulated to kill her only remaining family
    [X] Explain to Katherine that she had been manipulated to kill her only remaining family
    -[X] Empathy excellency
    -[X] Spend WP for additional success
    [X] Explain to Katherine that she had been manipulated to kill her only remaining family
    -[X] Use empathy Excellency to sooth her conscience or guilt over the act as well as pin the truth of Nemesis as the ultimate being responsible for the act.
    [X] Plan Psalm 34:18
    -[X] Excellency as needed
    -[X] Willpower for TTC
    -[X] roll to activate flight without anima
    -[X] Essence for ATP
    -[X] Explain to Katherine that she had been manipulated to kill her only remaining family
    -[X] [Stunt] Ghosting along the fire escape, Molly floats just above the surface to avoid making a sound. As she goes she turns her mind's eye to what she had seen; strangers slipping behind one familiar face after another as the love of a sister blindly recoils against itself. Katherine isn't the only one to be led in ignorance to destruction.
    —[X] As it had that very first time, something in the heart behind her heart twisted at the thought. A kinship deeper than memory found in treachery and the spilling of a sibling's blood.
    —[X] Moving in from Katherine's blind spot, Molly's hand clenched and found itself wrapped around a hammer. That hammer - as if plucked from memory - rust spread like dried blood across the head. Leaning on the rail next to her, arranged so that her burden is the first thing Katherine will see from the corner of her eye, Molly speaks.
    —[X] "There is something you deserve to know about how all of this happened before we go any further". Something in her thoughts seemed to leak into her voice; not the empathy of strangers, nor the acid of well meant pity, but recognition. An understanding so red and raw and human that it was almost painful to hear.
 
We really should stunt this, since it's going to be difficult and Katherine hitting a panic button could cause nemesis to clean house.

Fair enough if you don't like mine, but we should use something.
 
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