Yes
Don't worry, you can take things in and out of
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
- Thread starter DragonParadox
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Yes
Don't worry, you can take things in and out of
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do you think our hell with advanced technology will have the true magic of internet without lag?
slenderman1942
Jungle Tyrant
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If I am understanding it right, is this charm the first step on the route of a devil tiger?
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I'm sorry can you rephrase the issue for taking things out or do you mean it wouldn't build something too divergent?
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I think we've actually gotten told the exp requirements (not plot requirements) for each level of essence.
Your hell world will be fundamentally compatible in terms of physical laws with material reality, you can move things freely between as well as people.
I asked in PMs, I think.
Will check and let you know.
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*Checks PM*
This is what I allowed back in... February (darn no wonder I did not remember, thanks for reminding me Uju);
The Hell being shattered as part of its backstory, and requiring Molly to take external action to recover major fragments to restore the realm to its designed size.
Starting size of the Hell being Average/major city size (Reference total surface area: City of Chongqing, China, ~32,000 sq miles/82,000-90,000 sq km)
So narrative growth with its own linked quest that parallels the Primordials making Creation from the Wyld only you are scavenging since it is the Fifth age not the First.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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Binary computer is mostly about trying to get maximum reliability. A zero is about impossible to mistake for a 1 which is really important in signal transmission, but if our hell has some sort of absolutely reliable way of transmission and had it sense the beginning of computers I could see a higher base system working.
Maybe if room temperature super conductor were something that you can just mine out of the ground?
Or maybe duel carrier waves of magical and electric energy that don't interfere with each other? If the magic can do multiple elements that are impossible to mistake for each other I could see doing an arbitrarily large base system. So at root they don't use Zero and 1 representing single and no signal, but Air, Earth, Fire, Water and Wood.
Maybe if room temperature super conductor were something that you can just mine out of the ground?
Or maybe duel carrier waves of magical and electric energy that don't interfere with each other? If the magic can do multiple elements that are impossible to mistake for each other I could see doing an arbitrarily large base system. So at root they don't use Zero and 1 representing single and no signal, but Air, Earth, Fire, Water and Wood.
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Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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Personally, I have no interest in this as an option for our Hell, @uju32. We need a much larger Hell from the get go, IMO, so that our population has a justifiable reason to be numerous and prosperous, not having developed on a tiny sliver of land.
Not sure what is left to flesh out (that wouldn't be divisive and controversial, like my attempts at economic theory), and don't want to rush. As for promoting... here goes.
Fivefold Courts of Frozen Fate is a world concept described in detail here. It definitely has influences of Kakuri, and the Wicked City, though other canon hells also leave an imprint. It has a lot of hints (some more blatant than others) regarding Age of Legends strewn around in the developed lore, ready to be picked up, but not overly concerning if we don't want to, or want to delay.
I have written a number of things regarding details of this world:
Who populates it - human and inhuman sapient races
Flora and Fauna
One of the cornerstone technologies, allowing for magic-technology melding.
A super great omake set in this world by @myrix
Overall, my goal, and one I hope I was able to accomplish was to create an interesting and alive world that we wouldn't be ashamed of, and that we wouldn't need to save. It lives, it strives against adversity, it has lots of people of various kinds and shapes. it isn't going to fall apart.
In practical terms, the level of technology and at least a bit of inspiration was taken from Cyberpunk, but with distinctly more magical tilt, of course (so Wicked City, except not that wicked).
I didn't put "overpopulated" feature for one more point because I object strenuously to it on the basis "the world shouldn't be falling apart, I don't want to read about such a world, or for it to be Molly's soul". I didn't put ritual chambers or gaols in (I traded gaols for larger sizes), but left the plothooks for them to be constructed, or liberated or found (I made a whole thing about the giant underground maze which might or might not be a reflection of Malfeas, which we could explore conquering hostile tribes).
I am here to answer question regarding it. It's one of the better things I made.
Are you familiar with the Titanean Commonwealth in Eclipse Phase?
Did you ever play or read BAHHSCQ quest by Avalanche on this forum?
Think how those arcologies are constructed; thats a rough working model for my initial world.
As for population, this is also addressed.
Im modelling around half a billion to six hundred million people, which is twice the US or roughly the population of North America but around half of India or China.
Enough to make a difference, but not enough people to raise serious questions about why we're focusing on Creation when we have almost as many mortals in our Hell.
@Yog not sure about the Endless Suffering feature being so all encompassing. Unless Molly ends up being able to expand the world that option ends up just being a dooms day clock until critical mass of population is hit.
Like overpopulation feature, but worse and without gaining points for it.
Like overpopulation feature, but worse and without gaining points for it.
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fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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Because creation actually needs the help well our hell is working fine. We are a rich zero world country helping out the impoverished 1st world countries.
It is pointed out in the material that new people are only born when the hell is able to support them. So if a couple wants a child they make a farm, house, etc.
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Which still runs into the amount of space problem. I guess if only houses was needed you could stack stuff in the cities until it stops being possible, but sooner or later the amount of food being produce wont be enough... unless the hell does not need to eat?
Yogs world is vast. but the majority of it is beyond reach unless Molly gains the ability to terraform it.
Sooo still very much a serious long term problem, unless a culture of happy sucide is cultivated.
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Hard no to endless suffering, or any plan that does not have heavenly.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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I mentioned the farm. Children aren't born unless they can be sustainable provided for.
Molly knows there are numerous alien civilizations out there. Even if she never interacts with them, I hope this would be answer enough for why Creation needs to survive. But I do like having our hell be comparable to Earth in population size, it opens interesting plot threads.
This has been addressed in the build, because I thought about it. I have to credit @myrix for some of the solution. Look under "turning of the wheel" section of the build fluff. Essentially, brithrates are tied to the population capacity by laws of nature. And it's not just space. It's food and other things too. It's a way to show that the substrate is not an uncaring universe, but a soul of a Primordial who actually cares
Not sure what you mean? Endless Suffering affects the whole ecosphere. As new ecological niches appear, populations of various species grow.
I worked hard to reconcile immortality and overpopulation. I hope I succeeded.
Also, everything still has a way to die, it's just sapient beings have it as a ritual that is a choice. Animals and plants are simpler.
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I don't think there's any build like that right now? You should probably write one if you want it
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also cause we can't spend more than I think 5 days a month in our hell.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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No it's 50% of our time and we can only stay for 5 days at a time. However long we stay in our hell we have to wait that long before we can go back.
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What do you mean 50% of our time in what way?
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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- Tempe, AZ
However long we stay in our hell we have to spend that much time outside our hell before we can go back. Also we can only stay a max of 5 days in our hell per trip.
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Well irrelevant the vast majority of our time will not be in our hell. Simply because we can't be.