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Digimon Inheritance: A Heroic Lion's Turbulent Times (Finished)

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[X] Have mercy, he's in pain and won't last much longer. End him yourself
-[X] Before you strike apologise and wish him a better life in his next.
 
Ironforge said:
Chackmon is pretty much in critical condition, how would finding a way to keep him contained be hard? As unless the guy is bough up to full health, I'm pretty sure any champ on our side could end him right now.
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Literally WoG
drexal15 said:
Something to note here is that with the stat difference Chackmon's breath attack can potentially freeze most of the host members (to deadly levels)

He's also extremly fast. If he were to get like, even a minute to run, he could potentially escape.
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We can't contain him. Not outside of a Host citadel.
If you capture him, MagnaAngemon just execute him considering even Parrotmon is easier to keep locked up
 
veekie said:
We can't contain him. Not outside of a Host citadel.
If you capture him, MagnaAngemon just execute him considering even Parrotmon is easier to keep locked up
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Key word there is potentially. "Potentially" Verge could win against Astamon, if everything aligned exactly in his favor.
 
[X] Have mercy, he's in pain and won't last much longer. End him yourself

Even if we make Sparks attack miss the guys still being melted by that corruption attack and outright healing him is quite frankly an unacceptable risk at this stage... also I don't think anyone deserves to have something like that messing around with their heads their whole life.

I don't like this.... but the entire point of this entire mission and all of these losses was to take this LW down.
 
TempestK said:
How very... you know what, I'm just gonna call a spade a spade, that's the most heartless, coldblooded justification I've heard yet.
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I do not deny that it is, my will is to mold our protagonist into a perfect knight by my standards, do I defend what I wish for him to be as you defend what you wish, such is the nature of this game we are playing, a wonderful game by the way, Drexal really did great work with this quest, I may not always vote or discuss but I love every bit of it.
 
Guys, this is more likely than not a massive mistake here, this is a legendary warrior aka the thing both Verge and Sparks claim to worship, not only would this have a high possibility of annulling any chance of diplomacy with the VI that capturing them would potentially give us but almost guaranteed to make them even more zealous in their attacks to break the Hosts hold on this territory.

and that's not even counting the blow to Verge's honor to delete a foe that is unable to fight back in their current condition.
 
veekie said:
Literally WoG

We can't contain him. Not outside of a Host citadel.
If you capture him, MagnaAngemon just execute him considering even Parrotmon is easier to keep locked up
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Isn't that about him being in good condition and not near death? As I would think he would be massively weaker considering him current health.

@drexal15, is that reasoning sound or did you mean even in this state he is still a massive threat?

undead frog said:
[X] Have mercy, he's in pain and won't last much longer. End him yourself

Even if we make Sparks attack miss the guys still being melted by that corruption attack and outright healing him is quite frankly an unacceptable risk at this stage... also I don't think anyone deserves to have something like that messing around with their heads their whole life.

I don't like this.... but the entire point of this entire mission and all of these losses was to take this LW down.
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Why, couldn't we use our healing to stabilize him? As it isn't like we don't have the means for that on hand, since we have two levels of healing magic and so don't have to comment to over healing him.
 
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Well..... it looks like people are committed to making this mistake, I tried my best to outline why we absolutely should not kill Chackmon but my words appear to have fallen on deaf ears so I'm praying this doesn't turn out anywhere near as horrifically as I suspect it to.
 
[X] Have mercy, he's in pain and won't last much longer. End him yourself.

Yeah, not giving MagnaAngemon a chance to steal our lunch again.
 
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TempestK said:
You mean the "lunch" that's got corrupted data in it thanks to the modified Gale Claw? So if we absorb Chackmon's data, we're going to likely be reinforcing Ardat's virus.
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We were the ones who produced said corrosive energy, so we are probably the only one aside from maybe Ardat that is capable of possibly digesting that energy.
 
As for the argument for sparing Chackmon, come on guys, can't you find it in yourselves to spare the guy, he is crying and is in terror, sure it may backfire, but we should at least try.

How about we offer to guard him until we reach a Host prison where he won't be our responsibility anymore, I mean if we are the ones to guard him, his chance of escaping will drastically reduce, and it might stop him from getting killed by MagnaAngemon.

Seriously lets offer him a second chance, it's probably what Agnimon would have done and would be a heroic thing to do.
 
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Zwart Jaeger said:
We produced said virus, I don't think it will add to itself.
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...That's exactly how viruses work. They replicate, corrupting data to create more of itself in a potentially exponential process if the mon's "immune system" isn't able to hold steady. If it weren't for our vaccine core half, we probably would have been completely subsumed by the virus by now.
 
TempestK said:
...That's exactly how viruses work. They replicate, corrupting data to create more of itself in a potentially exponential process if the mon's "immune system" isn't able to hold steady. If it weren't for our vaccine core half, we probably would have been completely subsumed by the virus by now.
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But is it really?

Also if we let Sparks delete him and have him or any other digimon load Chackmon, that would mean other digimon would get said corruption too, if loading the corrosive energy didn't damage them.

And we know Sparks is going to load Chackmon if Verge doesn't.
 
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TempestK said:
...That's exactly how viruses work. They replicate, corrupting data to create more of itself in a potentially exponential process if the mon's "immune system" isn't able to hold steady. If it weren't for our vaccine core half, we probably would have been completely subsumed by the virus by now.
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Zwart Jaeger said:
But is it really?
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I'm going to agree with @TempestK on this one, particularly given the corrosive nature of the corruption and the themes of the source. I can totally see it expanding in the victim, leading to a potential feedback loop*. That said... losing out on the power of a LW again is something I see sticking in Verge's craw and unlike Wolfmon, Chakomon has done nothing to earn Verge's respect.

That said, the subvote of wishing him a better next life someone conflicts with the idea of loading him.

*What a wonderful way to ensure that as a servant grows in power, it also grows in loyalty.
 
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thamuzz said:
Chakomon has done nothing to earn Verge's respect.
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But his situation would be one that would earn Verge's sympathy. It should be anyway. Chackmon has been acting as someone who believes that he's defending the world. He's not malicious, and in fact has been acting quite childish. So this should be bringing up memories of Flamemon.
 
TempestK said:
But his situation would be one that would earn Verge's sympathy. It should be anyway. Chackmon has been acting as someone who believes that he's defending the world. He's not malicious, and in fact has been acting quite childish. So this should be bringing up memories of Flamemon.
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True, which is why I believe sparing him would help Verge grow closer to his goal of becoming a Hero.

Plus we could always personally guard Chackmon if we spare him, it should drastically reduce his chance of escaping unless rescued, and stop MagnaDouche from loading Chackmon for himself.

Also if Chackmon tries to escape, Verge would be able to delete him without remorse now, since he would probably only try it when he's fully healed which would mean he's wouldn't have any corrosive energy to damage someone that loads him.

Plus capturing him wouldn't get us into any trouble, that would be letting him escape.

Also by personally guarding Chackmon, that means he has to go through us to escape, which means he won't be able to kill other members of the Host unless he goes through us first.
 
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The problem with the personally guard idea, an issue that MagnaAngemon is certain to point out, is that guarding him means we can't be sent out on missions. It means the group is down one of its strongest fighters.
 
justinkal said:
The problem with the personally guard idea, an issue that MagnaAngemon is certain to point out, is that guarding him means we can't be sent out on missions. It means the group is down one of its strongest fighters.
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And Chackmon is just so pitiful right now, is it really fine to just delete him, when we could spare him if we just exerted more effort?

Personally guarding Chackmon would stop all the negative downsides of Chackmon being a prisoner, the only obstacle would be MagnaDouche.

If we can stop MagnaAngemon from killing and loading Chackmon, Verge personally guarding him would cut off all of Chackmon's options for escape attempts.
 
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Zwart Jaeger said:
And Chackmon is just so pitiful right now, is it really fine to just delete him, when we could spare him if we just exerted more effort?
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That's the sticking point, isn't it? Trying to be a hero involves taking risks, and right now a lot of people want to be pragmatic, even if it means being coldblooded.
 
TempestK said:
That's the sticking point, isn't it? Trying to be a hero involves taking risks, and right now a lot of people want to be pragmatic, even if it means being coldblooded.
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He really is just so pitiful right now.
drexal15 said:
The Legendary Warrior is battered and broken to the point of barely clinging to life, more a barely connected mass of vaguely connected snow than anything else. His stump and the wound on his chest pulsate contiunuing to eat away at what's left.

His black eyes no longer hold that fiery determination, but fear. Water drips down his cheeks, tears.

"Please... no."
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Just... Please at least try to be a Hero, even if it's not the most pragmatic option available.

We really could save Chackmon if we try personally guarding him.
 
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