We can already build schools with little issue. And I'd rather not go into that slippery slope, not when there is a genuine societal scar about it.
I'd rather wait until we organically gain the trust of the people.
Cult Creator - The Pilgrims Journey
- Thread starter HeroCooky
- Start date
- Original Mature
I'd rather wait until we organically gain the trust of the people.
HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
Its not an issue of money, but trust that has people squint at you if you build one. And offering money for people to look the other way is liable to get your oprhanages stormed by a mob to perform citizen arrests and remove the children from you.
Also, you already legally can build them, so I don't really see why you would bribe anyone.
- Location
- Australia
I thought that because society was opposed that it was difficult to get the permits, not that the permits were freely available but that there'd be public backlash if we actually took them. Thanks for the clarification.
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- Location
- Goose Land
The public backlash is called the Goodwill Cost. I believe some actions even have Goodwill Upkeep.
As long as we maintain a positive Goodwill balance and income, we don't really need to worry about public backlash in a general sense.
We have Rank 2 Rep with the People after all.
[Canon] - The Tilted Forest
HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
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I think that's Needle? The legs and ax would fit with her other picture under Media. No idea about the artist though.
That place is surprisingly organic looking. Not what I expected from the Forest of Rust, but too green for what I expected from Tessen.
HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
Forgot the artist, credit is now there.
And the person is Needle when she was still on her murder-rampage back when.
The place is a Region called (as the title suggests) The Tilting Forest. The trees grow at a steep angle, or any, really, besides straight up, and they are a strategic ressource guarded by a Prevter House. It is one of the Regions you will get shown once you start expanding out from Tessen.
Is it only the trees that end up tilted or does the wood made from them also refuse any clean angles?
HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
No. The plants there just grow at weird angles, but once you cut them, you can use them like any wood in existence.
Ok, where did I put my plan again?
[X] Plan Strul Preperations and Diplomacy
-[X][Faith] Establish A Small Hospice Network - (0/1 Turns Complete) - (-12 Materials)
--[X](+6FF)=+6
-[X][Faith] Feed The Masses - (4/8 Turns Complete) - [Sandcrete -12.5 Materials]
-[X][Diplomacy] Infiltrate Part 1 - (Choose 3 Factions: Dirty Daggers, Daughters Of Rashomon, The Purified) - (0/3 Turns Complete) - (-8 Materials)
--[X] (School The Diplomat-Corp: Criminals +15, A Victims Ire: Criminal Organizations +5, +6FF)=+26
-[X][Martial] Guards! Guards! - (Poor-House: Strul) - (0/1 Turns Complete) - (-6.5 Materials)
--[X] [Martial] Add (Dread-Ghillie (Military) to (The Unbroken) - (-33.69 Materials)
--[X] [Martial] Add (Dragonscale: Heavy Armor) to (Incubi) - (-39.55 Materials)
-[X][Learning] Pressurized Suspendium - (Common/Advanced/Pioneer Suspendium Theory) - (0/2 Successes) - (-5 Materials, 1 Suspendium Shards - Tiny)
--[X] (1 [SC] +12, Scientific Theory +15)=+27
--[X] -
-[X][Learning] Secret Of The Circuit Pt.3 - (Advanced/Pioneer Electronics) - (8/20 Successes)
--[X] [PD],[DoD],[In The Name Of Profit], (1 [SC] +12, 2 [ENG] +28, Scientific Theory +15, Electronics Workshop +20, Black Box +5, +6FF)=+86
--[X] 1 Seeker-Shells +20 to Advanced Weapons/Electronics, Rationalized Circuits +20 to Advanced Electronics, Low-Grade Jewel Capacitor +20 to Advanced Electronics/Physics, Electro-Spool +20 to Advanced Electronics=+80
-[X][Learning] Propulsion In The Air - (Advanced Hydraulic/Machinery/Metallurgy) - (0/1 Successes) - (-17.31 Materials)
--[X] (Scientific Theory +15, Black Box +5, +2FF)=+22
--[X] Gyro Bed +5 to Machinery, Rusting Water Pipe System +5 to Hydraulics=+10
-[X][Archeology] Loot The Bunkers Knight Frame - (1/3 Turns Complete)
-[X][Archeology] Prepare an Expedition - (RC-04) - (2 Turns Preperation= 4 Turns expedition) - (House Mirn support: Y)
-[X][Tree of Knowledge] Assemble A Logic Bank - (1/3 Constructed) - (Diplomacy) - (2/3 Turns Complete)
-[X][Holdings] Amphitheater Avenue - (2/4 Turns Complete)
--[X] (Hire Contractors: 1*7 Materials= -7 Materials)
-[X][Aria action] Too Much To Do - (We Are One People! - (Locals)) - (2/4 Successes)
--[X](Mutated -20, Purge Survivor -5, Bloodied Knight-Pilot +66, We Can Do It! +10, +6FF)=+57
-[X][Martyris action] Too Much To Do - (Detective Courses For Beginners - (Unknown Publication - 31.44 - +50 to ???)) - (0/2 Successes)
--[X](Personal Action +35, (+6FF))=+41
-[X][Martyris action] Too Much To Do - (House Dall Palace) - (0/3 Turns Complete) - (-25 Materials)
--[X] (Hire Contractors: 3*7 Materials= -21 Materials)
-[X] Merchants - (All Are Free Actions)
--[X] Backroom Deals - (Communal Festivals)
-[X] The Adventurer Guild - (1 Action)
--[X] Guardians For Hire - (Anchorage (Tiny) - (Strul))
-[X] The Military - (1 Action)
--[X] War Lessons - (The Wall) - (-2 Materials)
-[X] The Union Of Herbalists - (Choose 1 Action)
--[X] Study Sessions - (7/8 Turns Complete) - (-2.50 Materials)
-[X] Stupendously Scholastic Scholars of Science - (1 Action)
--[X] In The Name Of Profit - (Secret Of The Circuit Pt.3) - (-15 Materials)
-[X] Forge Clan Vanar-Feer - (Choose 1 Action)
--[X] Engineers Galore - (Engineer) - (2/6 Turns Complete) - (-15 Materials)
-[X] The Followers Of Light - (1 Action)
--[X] We Work As One - (Establish A Small Hospice Network)
-[X] Conclave Of Fraya - (1 Action)
--[X] Eternal Arts - (Norqod) - (6/30 Turns Complete) - (-5 Materials)
Costs: 12 Materials+ 12.5 Materials+ 8 Materials+ 6.5 Materials+ 33.69 Materials+ 39.55 Materials+ 5 Materials+ 17.31 Materials+ 7 Materials+ 25 Materials+ 21 Materials+ 2 Materials+ 2.50 Materials+ 15 Materials+ 15 Materials+ 5 Materials= 227.05 Materials
Budget: 503.13 Materials
Remaining budget: 503.13 Materials - 227.05 Materials= 276.08 Materials
Edit: Added another Contractor to Too Much To Do - (House Dall Palace).
[X] Plan Strul Preperations and Diplomacy
-[X][Faith] Establish A Small Hospice Network - (0/1 Turns Complete) - (-12 Materials)
--[X](+6FF)=+6
-[X][Faith] Feed The Masses - (4/8 Turns Complete) - [Sandcrete -12.5 Materials]
-[X][Diplomacy] Infiltrate Part 1 - (Choose 3 Factions: Dirty Daggers, Daughters Of Rashomon, The Purified) - (0/3 Turns Complete) - (-8 Materials)
--[X] (School The Diplomat-Corp: Criminals +15, A Victims Ire: Criminal Organizations +5, +6FF)=+26
-[X][Martial] Guards! Guards! - (Poor-House: Strul) - (0/1 Turns Complete) - (-6.5 Materials)
--[X] [Martial] Add (Dread-Ghillie (Military) to (The Unbroken) - (-33.69 Materials)
--[X] [Martial] Add (Dragonscale: Heavy Armor) to (Incubi) - (-39.55 Materials)
-[X][Learning] Pressurized Suspendium - (Common/Advanced/Pioneer Suspendium Theory) - (0/2 Successes) - (-5 Materials, 1 Suspendium Shards - Tiny)
--[X] (1 [SC] +12, Scientific Theory +15)=+27
--[X] -
-[X][Learning] Secret Of The Circuit Pt.3 - (Advanced/Pioneer Electronics) - (8/20 Successes)
--[X] [PD],[DoD],[In The Name Of Profit], (1 [SC] +12, 2 [ENG] +28, Scientific Theory +15, Electronics Workshop +20, Black Box +5, +6FF)=+86
--[X] 1 Seeker-Shells +20 to Advanced Weapons/Electronics, Rationalized Circuits +20 to Advanced Electronics, Low-Grade Jewel Capacitor +20 to Advanced Electronics/Physics, Electro-Spool +20 to Advanced Electronics=+80
-[X][Learning] Propulsion In The Air - (Advanced Hydraulic/Machinery/Metallurgy) - (0/1 Successes) - (-17.31 Materials)
--[X] (Scientific Theory +15, Black Box +5, +2FF)=+22
--[X] Gyro Bed +5 to Machinery, Rusting Water Pipe System +5 to Hydraulics=+10
-[X][Archeology] Loot The Bunkers Knight Frame - (1/3 Turns Complete)
-[X][Archeology] Prepare an Expedition - (RC-04) - (2 Turns Preperation= 4 Turns expedition) - (House Mirn support: Y)
-[X][Tree of Knowledge] Assemble A Logic Bank - (1/3 Constructed) - (Diplomacy) - (2/3 Turns Complete)
-[X][Holdings] Amphitheater Avenue - (2/4 Turns Complete)
--[X] (Hire Contractors: 1*7 Materials= -7 Materials)
-[X][Aria action] Too Much To Do - (We Are One People! - (Locals)) - (2/4 Successes)
--[X](Mutated -20, Purge Survivor -5, Bloodied Knight-Pilot +66, We Can Do It! +10, +6FF)=+57
-[X][Martyris action] Too Much To Do - (Detective Courses For Beginners - (Unknown Publication - 31.44 - +50 to ???)) - (0/2 Successes)
--[X](Personal Action +35, (+6FF))=+41
-[X][Martyris action] Too Much To Do - (House Dall Palace) - (0/3 Turns Complete) - (-25 Materials)
--[X] (Hire Contractors: 3*7 Materials= -21 Materials)
-[X] Merchants - (All Are Free Actions)
--[X] Backroom Deals - (Communal Festivals)
-[X] The Adventurer Guild - (1 Action)
--[X] Guardians For Hire - (Anchorage (Tiny) - (Strul))
-[X] The Military - (1 Action)
--[X] War Lessons - (The Wall) - (-2 Materials)
-[X] The Union Of Herbalists - (Choose 1 Action)
--[X] Study Sessions - (7/8 Turns Complete) - (-2.50 Materials)
-[X] Stupendously Scholastic Scholars of Science - (1 Action)
--[X] In The Name Of Profit - (Secret Of The Circuit Pt.3) - (-15 Materials)
-[X] Forge Clan Vanar-Feer - (Choose 1 Action)
--[X] Engineers Galore - (Engineer) - (2/6 Turns Complete) - (-15 Materials)
-[X] The Followers Of Light - (1 Action)
--[X] We Work As One - (Establish A Small Hospice Network)
-[X] Conclave Of Fraya - (1 Action)
--[X] Eternal Arts - (Norqod) - (6/30 Turns Complete) - (-5 Materials)
Costs: 12 Materials+ 12.5 Materials+ 8 Materials+ 6.5 Materials+ 33.69 Materials+ 39.55 Materials+ 5 Materials+ 17.31 Materials+ 7 Materials+ 25 Materials+ 21 Materials+ 2 Materials+ 2.50 Materials+ 15 Materials+ 15 Materials+ 5 Materials= 227.05 Materials
Budget: 503.13 Materials
Remaining budget: 503.13 Materials - 227.05 Materials= 276.08 Materials
Edit: Added another Contractor to Too Much To Do - (House Dall Palace).
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- Location
- Australia
@HeroCooky can we overbuild the palace to make it more impressive and ostentatious? If so, is there any benefit to doing so?
- Location
- United States
[X] Plan Strul Preperations and Diplomacy
HeroCooky
Unverified Monstergirl
You can do so, and your reward for that would be prestige. Nobles, like any ruling class, like style.
Sure, we do have more than enough Materials.
- Location
- Australia
Why are we doing this? Not arguing against it, just wasn't around for the discussion for what our stance should be on these guys.
Mostly to get access to the rumor mill. We will also have to deal with them in future so having a warning for when they plan to do shit will come in handy.
Edit: On our stances, Purifiers got to go, Daggers will need to learn we are not going to pay their rackets and for Rashomon, we need to learn more info on how the gang actually operates, but we might come into conflict regardless over the Consensuals.
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Mainly because all three groups are problems we have to deal with in the short or mid-term.
The Purified because of the potential purge and because while we do have a negative relationship with them, it doesn't reach "Hated" like with the Watchers. Admittedly, things could develop too quickly for that but we need some information.
The Daughters Of Rashomon because we only got rumors about them for now and we have to do something about them if we want to expand into Ulatarn further.
The Dirty Daggers because they are active in Tessen, the capital of the region.
This way we also get information about most factions in the underground turf war. Frankly, we have no idea which of those factions is going to collapse or stay around, so I want to keep an eye on every faction that dislikes us.
Also, we're going to have two Diplomacy Action next Turn and onwards. That makes the three Turn Actions much less of a problem.
- Location
- Australia
We're going to be enemies with the Purifiers. Their ideology makes it inevitable. Unless we're willing to forever keep our distance from them, peace will be impossible. Furthermore, even if it were possible, there are better things we can be doing than maintaining the peace with a genocidal faction.
I meant more in the sense that they aren't yet as fanatic as the Watchers. And that if things go wrong our infiltrators are more likely to survive than if we try to infiltrate the Watchers.
Also, where does the genocidal part come from? The Watchers want to start a purge, yes, but the Purified currently plan to take over Strul's Mutated District, which I suspect is populated by Mutated.