Crystalwatcher's Magical Girl Quest!
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Nepgear hits for the jackpot!
So...if I'm reading this right, combining all three means that TEAM GEAR would be fighting at a weak magical girl level EACH when working together?
"You don't need to defend if they are all dead from round 1" huh?
Typo in ability name.
@crystalwatcher
Does the newly revealed "Echo of Peace" ability stack with things such as Red Rose's "To Stand Amongst Gods" andUni's Judgement Core's version of "Armored Core"?
As in, if fighting alongside Judgement Core after we purchase Echo of Piece, will the damage that Judgement Core takes be reduced by both effects, making her only take 26.25% damage (0.75 * 0.35 = 0.2625)?
Does the newly revealed "Echo of Peace" ability stack with things such as Red Rose's "To Stand Amongst Gods" and
As in, if fighting alongside Judgement Core after we purchase Echo of Piece, will the damage that Judgement Core takes be reduced by both effects, making her only take 26.25% damage (0.75 * 0.35 = 0.2625)?
Decim
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Since Echo of Peace procs before any other damage calculation, the answer is almost certainly 'yes'.
Almost certainly. It is explicitly stated to take place before damage calculation so it's the very first thing applied.
Basically:
Attack -> Echo of Peace -> Base Resilience -> Abilities.
So if we take Judgement Core for example and say an attack from a Hell Beast:
Hellfire Damage = 1,500 + 250 = 1,750
Less Each of Peace = 1,750 * 0.35 = 613
Less Base Resilience = 613 - 305 = 308
Less Armored Core: Steel = 308 > 138 Therefore 308 * 0.75 = 231
Final Damage = 231
UbeOne
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You mean 308 * (1 - 0.25) =
Decim
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Not really? Red Rose's To Stand Amongst Gods can proc multiple times and ensures that the most damage she can take is %20 of her max health. This means that things that really shouldn't be survivable by anything like Rei going all out, Red Rose would survive. Uni sure as hell can't manage that.
Well, yeah, but things like that are so far outside our weight class that the "fighting as a team" aspect is negated anyways since they could effortlessly instakill Nepgear too.
I should have worded it as Judgement Core becoming nearly as hard to kill as Red Rose when we're working as a team against things that can't oneshot Nepgear multiple times over.
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[x]Check up on Sam. You haven't heard of him all day for some odd reason.
[X]Don't spend any
[X]Don't spend any
Dragonloli123
Bonedad
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Hmm Echo of Peace seems really bad to purchase right now since it would elevate us to a priority target for the Unified Darkness. I'd suggest waiting until we're stronger to buy it.
[X]Take a long shower and go to bed. Sounds like the perfect end to this day.
[X]Don't spend any
Need to save up for the unbreakable.
And after food fight, Nepgear must get clean or she will wake up with ants
[X]Don't spend any
Need to save up for the unbreakable.
And after food fight, Nepgear must get clean or she will wake up with ants
Indeed. Given their similar prices I'd recommend Reequip over Echo of Peace for improving our allies since it's less obvious while still making our most vulnerable allies, Team GEAR, harder to kill.
Well, it's probably not that obvious unless it's a circumstance where we're likely to lose a team member from injury anyway. Reducing damage by that much still gets them instantly killed by magical girl and greater demons.
Basically, it's big, but don't overrate it on the "Unified Darkness would kill us" scale.
Our Affinities are relatively more noticeable than that(and isn't really THAT noticeable due to magical girls being bullshit).
Armored Core is quite obvious:
So I have no doubt Echo of Peace would appear as some kind of obvious barrier/shield/whatever. It would probably only take a few engagements for the Unified Darkness to determine Solid Core is the source of the barrier.
Now I'm not sure if it would grab their attention enough to warrant kill squads or whatnot but it would almost certainly be obvious.
Obvious in the sense that "this is a game changer, eliminate it before it change the game!"
They know about the Core Containment being a barrier, but not exactly how hard because it's never really stopped anything powerful that they know of, nor how fast it's defensibility grows.
A barrier which protects a modest number of human mooks from enemy mook attacks(and crumples like wet tissue paper against elite attacks), is not a game changer except for Nepgear.
She doesn't want to lose anyone anymore, but to the Unified Darkness? One human mook soldier is a human mook soldier. Replacable, just add training time. They're just a magical girl's equipment.
Highwind
To Rise From The Ashes
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Actually, I think there isn't a limit to how many allies Echo of Peace protects.
See, no mention of a limit besides it only applying to those we consider allies, which can include everyone in an army. That is a game changer.
They wouldn't know until we start showing up with armies though?
How many combats we've been in where we're with more than a squad of people for a scene?
Highwind
To Rise From The Ashes
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It's one of those things that are bound to happen sooner or later, I think.
Another thing to keep in mind is that researchers are going to be very interested in this ability, since they're after a way to increase the survivability of human troops. If they can crack a way to create even a lesser version of this ability human troops will have much better chances in battle.
Dragonloli123
Bonedad
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Who says it's a modest number of mooks? It's defined as just allies that could range anywhere from the entire unified light to any ally in the same battle as us. Cutting all attacks against the unified light in half might get the dark lord himself to come kill us and even if it's just the battle we're currently in if it's a battle that fields armies we'd end up buffing the entire army.
ReaperofInterest
Herald of Disaster
So since we have enough XP to afford it, I'm going to go ahead and for for a plan that improves our defenses.
[X] Raise Core Containment to level 9 (70+80=150 XP)
This raises our health to 550, brings us closer to INDESTRUCTIBLE CORE, and improves our tankiness.
[X] Raise Core Containment to level 9 (70+80=150 XP)
This raises our health to 550, brings us closer to INDESTRUCTIBLE CORE, and improves our tankiness.