Crystalwatcher
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As well as Cosmos' sheer size. If she tries to talk to Nepgear directly, the Local Dimensional Cluster might not survive the experience.
Crystalwatcher's Magical Girl Quest!
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So something only happens when Cosmos responds?
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"Dear Lady Cosmos, I just wanted to call to thank you for bringing love for all of us to feel. I know you can't respond, but I wanted to express how much I appreciate your work."
This was how a little human made Cosmos' week.
Or, in Conceptual:
[Reverence] [Cosmos], [Gratefulness] [Creation] [Love] [Everyone] [Sensation]. [Awareness] [Negativity], [Expression] [Appreciation] [Cosmos] [Work]
(Was that somewhat accurate?)
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That divine flaw in Red Rose's defenses that we just found makes me half tempted to, once the mission is over and we're somewhere safe, use the Conceptual Language in a way that will hurt but not seriously injure Red Rose, in order to drive her to find a way to patch that hole 
Huh. I would have thought that a being as old as Cosmos would be aware of that issue long enough to think of a way around it.
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Close. Give me a bit and I'll write something out.
She simply lacked a reason to. It'd more or less be a creative way of talking to her self, and she already has Void to give all of her love to.
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Back to the issue at hand @crystalwatcher if we get to the other end of the hallway, would that be far enough away to avoid tanging Insight?
Also, if we had them block up their ears/render themselves deaf somehow, would that help?
Also, if we had them block up their ears/render themselves deaf somehow, would that help?
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Ah, so even if they were stone cold deaf Conceptual Language could still be heard, likely on a metaphysical level?
Is "I'm bored, what can I do to pass some time" not reason enough? Eternity is a LONG time
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Is "I'm bored, what can I do to pass some time" not reason enough? Eternity is a LONG time
I have the feeling that she spends all her free time throwing [Love] back and forth with Void
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You'd come out something like this:
[REALITY/CREATION]
[LOVE/AWARENESS/ALL]
[COMMUNICATION/IDENTITY/DUALITY]
[LOVE/AWARENESS/ALL]
[COMMUNICATION/IDENTITY/DUALITY]
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Yes.
You're assuming they perceive time the same way we do.Is "I'm bored, what can I do to pass some time" not reason enough? Eternity is a LONG time
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Ah, so this is how the language is structured...
Could you link that one on the front page for reference? Maybe someone wants to work with it later.
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Raises hand slowly
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If it can't convey the full message feel free to add in a non-bracketed addendum to explain exactly what's being conveyed.
Also, remember that this style is the older version of the Conceptual Language. Distillation over time would have added more words.
So what you're saying is that when we return to base, it's time for "Teach me, Gaia-sensei!"
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Think sort of like this:
[PEACE/NOTHING]
The Peace of the Void, the perfect echoing stillness.
The Peace of the Void, the perfect echoing stillness.
While the more modern Conceptual Language as used by smaller Divine Beings such as Gaia would come out like this:
[Peaceful Void]
The Peace of the Void, the perfect echoing stillness.
The latter is also less likely to splatter mortals. It'd also actualize magical spells on the spot though so be careful with what combinations you use.
Maybe.So what you're saying is that when we return to base, it's time for "Teach me, Gaia-sensei!"
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So what you're saying is that when we return to base, it's time for "Teach me, Gaia-sensei!"
Great... now my imagination painted the Cores and Drives sitting in a half-circle around a smiling Gaia with a chalkboard while the WEAPONs sit a few dozen metres back and watch... and all the rest of the base fled far away so as to not get splatted.
So what you're saying is that when we return to base, it's time for "Teach me, Gaia-sensei!"
"While I can teach you a lesser version of the conceptual language as understood at my level, the actual and altogether true version is impossible to be taught. Think of it as trying to teach a man who was blind his entire life about colour...by shooting at him with a Thomson Machine Gun while singing Bohemian Rhapsody in binary. He wouldn't be able to understand it even if it didn't kill him.
You either already know how to speak the Conceptual Language and have always known, or you don't and never will. There is no in between. Sorry, but that's simply part of the consequence on how the Divinity Ranks were made."
Well, even if Gaia isn't hanging around base anymore, couldn't we draw her attention by going out of range of all the mortals at base and then yelling as conceptually 'loudly' as we can
[COMMUNICATION/SELF]
Please talk to me.
Please talk to me.
As long as we're on Earth, Gaia is technically everywhere and can make an avatar appear wherever she wants, right?
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Well, I would think that she'd want to investigate at least out of sheer confusion at hearing someone yell at her in the Conceptual Language from within her own territory. That does not seem like the kind of thing that happens every day.
And from the sound of things, Nepgear doesn't actually know how to use that 'modern'/'weaker' version of the Conceptual Language yet, and I can't really think of a better (in terms of being both capable and willing) teacher for it than Gaia.
Also, my initial question was a Tsukihime reference, to play to Gaia's otaku side
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Hey. New here. Just read the entire thing. And i am really confused about 1 aspect of the current fight.
Why are we taking damage from a DOT effect @crystalwatcher?
Why are we taking damage from a DOT effect @crystalwatcher?
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Revel In Darkness doesn't operate as a DOT effect. It's a straight blow that triggers at the start of each turn, instead of being a "this much damage over this period of time" ability. For example, Core Purge would be a DOT effect.
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That honestly makes zero sense. Revel is a prime example of a dot effect. But ok.
Why does it pierce our resistance then?
Weirdness is fine. Unpredictable and unreliable weirdness is not fine. Especially since Nepgear has too much power and too little control and lots of things around that she doesn't want to destroy.
What part of "enormously experienced former #1 magical girl" says "easily taunted" to you? If she sees us trying to bait her, she will not fall for it. The only reason my plan had us lowering our guard was because I thought she might come up with something else nasty before she managed to penetrate it on her own, and I still expect her to figure out that we're baiting her. She's had her powers for a long time, and convinced most people that she was unkillable despite her weaknesses. She is emphatically not an idiot.
I'd rather stick to [PEACE] and maybe [WAR]. Concepts which we know are both weak and friendly to us, and won't obliterate us because we surprised them by shouting their name.
We aren't trying to surprise White Soul with Starshine or Core Purge. The point is that Starshine has a big enough AoE that she can't avoid it anyway. Ditto Core Purge, except we add on the fact that we're faster than her and can chase her down. And even if she escapes both, they're still useful as area-denial; she can't come near us if we're Core Purge'ing and she can't bring both bodies too close in case we use one of them, which limits how quickly she can send clones to harass us.
The point of the Conceptual Language is that it might, maybe, "hit at conceptual speeds" and therefore she can't dodge. Surprise is only a factor in getting her close enough for it to be deadly.
*Thinks about how powerful Heaven is*
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Okay, new rule: no Conceptual Language shenanigans within ten miles of—
—oh. I guess Gaia does some dampening too?
Yes, let's shout a greeting to every Divine Being around in a massively outdated dialect. There's no chance this could possibly lead to unpleasant attention.
Talking to Gaia is probably OK though. It would tell her more about what we are, which is… probably a good thing. So long as she doesn't decide we're a threat to her interests.
Also, repeating this for @crystalwatcher:
Did you accidentally a zero? Because 50 meters is not a "wide hallway". 5m would be. (Nor, for that matter, is something 70m long a "small entryway".) Also, she's pretty fast to have crossed fifty meters in the few seconds between her first and second attacks, unless that's the distance she retreated to after seeing Celestial Severance.
Does that mean that it's at eye-level, or fifty meters up?And what kind of vegetation is it? Ivy would make sense for a roof, but if it's really that wide then it could be trees, or if it's narrower it could be trees hanging over from outside the walls. Also, I was asking about the roof, not plants (though the information is still useful). Destroying hanging ivy won't reduce structural integrity, but cutting down walls or busting through the ceiling would.
Also: what exactly is the shape, size and layout of these barriers? If they're planar, or otherwise don't completely surround the others (and we know that Insight is "pressing herself against a wall"), then Sega could go through the wall (her damage is high enough that even without Collateral Damage or room to swing she should be able to get through, I think). Do they just cover the interior of the passageway, or do they extend beyond it through the walls (or can't we tell)?