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crystalwatcher said:
At this rate? Wouldn't be surprised.
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chocolote12 said:
I like my idea of what's on the other side of the tunnel more than I like yours...
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Chocolote, I am going to calmly, and polite ask:

Can you please delete that?
chocolote12 said:
What? No, really, what? What could Crystalwatcher throw at us that would be better than this? We voted to leave Anastasia to her fate.
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Anything.
 
ReaperofInterest said:
So out of curiosity, what would have happened if we decided to wait for additional backup?
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Likely even worse.

Because this is bascially what's happening with a snap-shot "We threw this out at an absurd pace and they're proceeding to scythe through unexpectedly".

All that being said.

I'm going to be very annoyed if "Surprise Interrupt" ends up resulting in long term disaster despite us maintaining a speed best decscribed as suicidally quick.

Because if the Nightmare could do this kind of shit on what amounts to being a drop of the hat, blindsiding Gaia in the process. Then not Only are we outintelligenced, outnumbered, fighting enemies who are smarter, typically stronger, and more informed on average by us, and led by what amounts to being Fantasy Creed. (All of these can theoretically be overcome)

But the enemy could win at any time of their pleasing and there's nothing anybody can do to stop them. Because as we just saw, they instantly captured several of the Top Ten--including at least one who they couldn't possibly have any particular specific advantage against (Goddess White in terms of power and hax, Solid Core in the sense that her power seems to be anathema to theirs--to the point where a squad of otherwise mortal soldiers with her blessing could curbstomp an otherwise considered nigh invincible agent of theirs), and not a single one of them were able to provide meaningful resistance. And that Gaia couldn't see it until it was too late, despite her actual attention being on this area. (And considering that even the GM admitted to being surprised at the outcome that apparently triggered this, they couldn't realistically have any precog that lets them somehow set up a hyper secret trap in advance)

And they're only one part of the enemy coalition.

There's "Bleak" and there's "You exist only at the whim of an enemy who is so fundamentally evil by a human standpoint that it arguably would have been better to die then continue to fight, because at least then you might not be turned into yet another weapon against all creation."
 
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Alright.

Look.

Omakes should be good.

Like, we shouldn't be punished for em.

Right? I mean I'm fine with making references in the update but if start getting punished for em then the player base will Literally start turning on itself and then we have wars.

FORUM WARS CRYSTAL! FORUM WARS.
DON'T DO THIS.
IT'S NOT TOO LATE.

THE COMBINATION OF SELF WARRING VOTERS AND WAFIU ARGUMENTS CAN WRECK WORLDS.

Dooooooooom. We'll drown in Salt Crystalwatcher! And maybe also riot.

... we can be salved by knowing how omakes -> XP though and maybe double xp bonus omake reaction weekends? Because making the quest more like Riahku Quests is totally not gonna backfire! Really.
 
ReaperofInterest said:
So out of curiosity, what would have happened if we decided to wait for additional backup?
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A lot of dead magical girls... dead soldiers... likelihood of facing a small army of xenomprohs... All kinds of fun things.

Alectai said:
And they're only one part of the enemy coalition.

There's "Bleak" and there's "You exist only at the whim of an enemy who is so fundamentally evil by a human standpoint that it arguably would have been better to die"
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But it makes victory over them all the sweeter, doesn't it?
 
crystalwatcher said:
A lot of dead magical girls... dead soldiers... likelihood of facing a small army of xenomprohs... All kinds of fun things.


But it makes victory over them all the sweeter, doesn't it?
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A victory that you couldn't earn is not satisfying.

And when the other side is apparently this strong, that even the best of the best trump cards are helpless against them when they actually exert yourself, no victory is possible no matter how clever you might act.

Like, it's one thing to be the underdog, it's another thing entirely to be the underdog against an enemy that literally is just humoring you and can snuff you out with effectively zero effort when they're bored of you, when you also stress that they're smart enough to know the exact moment to push the "Snuff out" button.

If we still end up losing here on what amounts to being an enemy snapshot that we made (What amounts to being) all the correct answers here, then that's the impression you'll end up giving.
 
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ReaperofInterest said:
Chocolate, I really find myself in agreement with Gore here. Anything to do with Bloodborne would undoubtedly deal a heavy blow to Anastasia's anity, and I think that we all prefer her being sane, thank you!
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No? It's just the music. I had a good mental image, because my goodness does that lady remind me of a vampire, and then I stole her theme music too because it fit.
 
Alectai said:
Because if the Nightmare could do this kind of shit on what amounts to being a drop of the hat, blindsiding Gaia in the process.
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I'm not so sure it was on a drop of the hat.

Remember one of the big unanswered questions was: "Who let out the mutated animals?" and everyone assumed it was the Unified Darkness?

Well I guess we now know it was the Unified Darkness, or more specifically the Nightmare Children, who did it.

My guess is they knew about the serum, actually I bet they told Sil-Shiva about it since 99.97% of humanity dying off would be an amazing victory for the Unified Darkness, and while everyone else was arriving/fighting/talking they have been building up this trap to take out as many enemy forces at once at possible.

Furthermore I suspect they were expecting Goddess Gold to be part of the initial mission since why wouldn't Counter Force send their strongest fighter to defend a possible world ending disease? They just didn't account for the local commander not being told what was in the facility.


Basically under their ideal conditions the Unified Darkness would have got the serum (99.97% humanity dead), killed the opposing Goddesses, and created a number of new high power units for their side. All over a massive victory.

Except now Team GEAR is here to fuck it all up for them.
 
LightMage said:
Ah well... I'm fairly sure we won't be punished for putting off Nepgear's rescue right?
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crystalwatcher said:
Physically? Naw.

More trauma though.
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:facepalm:

After posting that, I realized what this part of Watcher's Wild Ride is about: "It's Team GEAR's time to shine."

Translation? "You can help the others if you want to gain more EXP, but you're not gonna get any backup from them for the boss fight ahead because they're still gonna be unconscious. And other stuff you'll find out soon enough... "

That second sentence underlies what wasn't being discussed; the consequences of deciding one thing over another until the QM tells us straight up. The author's a wily one, that's for sure.
 
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crystalwatcher said:
But it makes victory over them all the sweeter, doesn't it?
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Alectai said:
A victory that you couldn't earn is not satisfying.

And when the other side is apparently this strong, that even the best of the best trump cards are helpless against them when they actually exert yourself, no victory is possible no matter how clever you might act.

Like, it's one thing to be the underdog, it's another thing entirely to be the underdog against an enemy that literally is just humoring you and can snuff you out with effectively zero effort when they're bored of you, when you also stress that they're smart enough to know the exact moment to push the "Snuff out" button.

If we still end up losing here on what amounts to being an enemy snapshot that we made (What amounts to being) all the correct answers here, then that's the impression you'll end up giving.
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Or in other words. There is no such thing as victory against a force like that.
UberJJK said:
I'm not so sure it was on a drop of the hat.

Remember one of the big unanswered questions was: "Who let out the mutated animals?" and everyone assumed it was the Unified Darkness?

Well I guess we now know it was the Unified Darkness, or more specifically the Nightmare Children, who did it.

My guess is they knew about the serum, actually I bet they told Sil-Shiva about it since 99.97% of humanity dying off would be an amazing victory for the Unified Darkness, and while everyone else was arriving/fighting/talking they have been building up this trap to take out as many enemy forces at once at possible.

Furthermore I suspect they were expecting Goddess Gold to be part of the initial mission since why wouldn't Counter Force send their strongest fighter to defend a possible world ending disease? They just didn't account for the local commander not being told what was in the facility.


Basically under their ideal conditions the Unified Darkness would have got the serum (99.97% humanity dead), killed the opposing Goddesses, and created a number of new high power units for their side. All over a massive victory.

Except now Team GEAR is here to fuck it all up for them.
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That's actually a reasonable plan... coming from an SVer. We're fucked.
 
Alectai said:
Because as we just saw, they instantly captured several of the Top Ten--including at least one who they couldn't possibly have any particular specific advantage against (Goddess White in terms of power and hax, Solid Core in the sense that her power seems to be anathema to theirs--to the point where a squad of otherwise mortal soldiers with her blessing could curbstomp an otherwise considered nigh invincible agent of theirs), and not a single one of them were able to provide meaningful resistance. And that Gaia couldn't see it until it was too late, despite her actual attention being on this area. (And considering that even the GM admitted to being surprised at the outcome that apparently triggered this, they couldn't realistically have any precog that lets them somehow set up a hyper secret trap in advance)
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You know, @crystalwatcher, Alectai has a point here. How exactly did we trigger this whole situation?
 
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