Crystalwatcher's Magical Girl Quest!
- Thread starter Crystalwatcher
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Bad! *whaps*
You'll never know if you don't try. Also, if it does fail, we're going to plan Stall anyway, only we might have give us more time for another WEAPON to appear.
ReaperofInterest
Herald of Disaster
Perhaps I should have been clearer. I don't trust White or either of the Maidens to try ganking us while we're trying to call Rei, since we wouldn't be giving them our undivided attention. Let's face it, if they're willing to unleash a plague that will kill over half of humanity, killing someone while they're trying to call someone for a conversation is not that out of the picture.
RagnorakTres
Technically Correct
- Location
- A Rolled Up Sidewalk Somewhere South Of Toledo, OH
- Pronouns
- Any/All
[X] Plan Try and End this Peacefully
Diplomancy, goooooooooooo.
Diplomancy, goooooooooooo.
Locos_Docos
Eater of slightly aged toast
- Location
- 'round the corner
- Pronouns
- he him
If I saw talking our way out of this as a viable option, I'd probably pick it. However, tensions are high in that room. Goddess White, Maiden East, & Maiden West are part of Shiva's group and Angel WEAPON is there to make sure their goal is foiled. Both sides are a) willing to kill one another and b) are solely focused on their goal. In the Shiva group's case, it's "get that virus and haul ass outta there before enemy reinforcements arrive." Trying to get San in contact with Rei will just contradict their objectives, thus it will fail.
With that being the case, I'll throw my hat into the ring and back up Reaper's plan as well.
[X] Help Angel WEAPON. That Virus is too dangerous to let go! It needs to be destroyed before any lives are lost.
-[X] Plan Stall like Crazy
[X] Purchase Interceptor Fire (50 XP)
With that being the case, I'll throw my hat into the ring and back up Reaper's plan as well.
[X] Help Angel WEAPON. That Virus is too dangerous to let go! It needs to be destroyed before any lives are lost.
-[X] Plan Stall like Crazy
[X] Purchase Interceptor Fire (50 XP)
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ReaperofInterest
Herald of Disaster
So here's something I can't quite figure out: are there two WEAPONs counting Angel? Or three? I seem to recall reading that the WEAPONs take up three places on the Top 10 Magical Girls list, but for some reason I can't quite shake the feeling that there are only two WEAPONs.
@crystalwatcher, could we get a quick confirmation of how many WEAPONs there are? And if there are three, if both of the not-here WEAPONs are on their way, or only one?
@crystalwatcher, could we get a quick confirmation of how many WEAPONs there are? And if there are three, if both of the not-here WEAPONs are on their way, or only one?
LostDeviljho
Flame Dragon Princess
- Location
- The glorious Pacific Northwest
- Pronouns
- Any
They're 5-7. The maidens are 8 and 9.
ReaperofInterest
Herald of Disaster
Ah, thank you. So there are three WEAPONs. Let's just hope both of the other two are on their way shall we? Having all three WEAPONs here would definitely make Goddess White and the Maidens of the Apocalypse significantly more likely to back down.
While Goddess White was perfectly happy to let Angel WEAPON monologue about how stupid her plan is that was when she thought she had the advantage. The moment Angel WEAPON said this line:
@ReaperofInterest - I noticed a potential flaw in your calcs that could actually be quite beneficial to us.
This doesn't take into account that Judgement negates Magic Modifies, including those of attacks:
which means that each turn we'll only be taking a maximum damage of 254 per turn, remember she has two more attacks then us, 200 of which should be healed by Gabrial's Presence of Light leaving just 54 damage per turn.
Of course it bares noting that I'm pretty sure the No-Sell threshold depends upon our current Health rather then our maximum Health. So with every bit of lost health our defense (kinda) gets weaker but since the only thing we No-Sell is so low it shouldn't matter.
she would have realized she's facing off against a ticking clock. There isn't any time for talking now.
@ReaperofInterest - I noticed a potential flaw in your calcs that could actually be quite beneficial to us.
This doesn't take into account that Judgement negates Magic Modifies, including those of attacks:
now presumably this only applies to interceptions but it still means for those 3 attacks per turn we intercept they'll be completely negated thanks to:
Base Damage = 500
Less Intercept (257) = 243
Less Base Resilience (230) = 13
Less then 75% Health (337) = Attack Negated
which means that each turn we'll only be taking a maximum damage of 254 per turn, remember she has two more attacks then us, 200 of which should be healed by Gabrial's Presence of Light leaving just 54 damage per turn.
Of course it bares noting that I'm pretty sure the No-Sell threshold depends upon our current Health rather then our maximum Health. So with every bit of lost health our defense (kinda) gets weaker but since the only thing we No-Sell is so low it shouldn't matter.
ReaperofInterest
Herald of Disaster
I have just checked the database myself...and you're right. I didn't take Judgement into account.
I'll edit my original plan post with the calculations accounting for this in a few minutes. Thanks for pointing that out.
Here is a reference for three:
However I suspect only one is coming since Angel WEAPON says sister not sisters.
Oh and incidentally:
We are now at 8/10. Here is an updated list factoring in:
- Goddess Gold (Check)
- Goddess Grey (Check)
- Goddess White (Check)
- Goddess Red (Check)
- ??? WEAPON
- Angel WEAPON (Check)
- ??? WEAPON
- Maiden of the East (Check)
- Maiden of the West (Check)
- Red Rose (Check)
If we manage to survive this encounter with no casualties, we'll probably wind up pretty damn close to the bottom of that top 10 ourselves too.
LostDeviljho
Flame Dragon Princess
- Location
- The glorious Pacific Northwest
- Pronouns
- Any
Pretty sure we're not even top 20 yet.
Because they are not dumb? They know that they are on a deadline here.
We're not there yet, but we're at the point where exponential growth is really starting to kick in.
If my quick and dirty math is roughly correct, level 10 Core Containment and one or two upgrades to the Purifier Beam should make us powerful enough to pose a decently serious challenge to Red Rose in a spar. And that's just our solo abilities, it doesn't take into account Core Connection.
ReaperofInterest
Herald of Disaster
Are you taking Rose Red's 'To Stand Amongst Gods' Ability into account? It reduces any damage she receives that's greater than 1000 by 99%. crystalwatcher wasn't kidding when he said it was bullshit.
That's final damage, so after applying Resilience, right?
Right now the Purifier Beam does 3 hits of 757 damage and her Resilience is 750, which means that final damage is 7. One upgrade should still leave the damage below 1000, and 2 or 3 upgrades should still leave the final damage below 1000.
On the other hand, just a bit more passive damage resistance will make us be capable of surviving Red Rose's attacks.
Locos_Docos
Eater of slightly aged toast
- Location
- 'round the corner
- Pronouns
- he him
Food for thought:
It's Nepgear's third mission and she's already met all four Goddesses at this point! By the time it's the fourth mission, what's gonna come next on Watcher's Wild Ride!?
It's Nepgear's third mission and she's already met all four Goddesses at this point! By the time it's the fourth mission, what's gonna come next on Watcher's Wild Ride!?
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While this is a valid interpretation, there's two other things to consider:
1) When we first met with White, she said that'd she wants "to get out of this without a fight", indicating that she would prefer not to fight.
2) When Angel started revealing the truth, White got nervous. Combined with the fact that she tried to get us to help her, despite outnumbering and presumably out-gunning Angel, it's entirely possible she thinks we could be a threat.
These two things suggest that White will be willing to give us an opportunity to talk, if only to try and convince us not to interfere.
- Location
- ☯
I asked about Nepgear's rank a while ago — it seems like we have a fair bit more to go.
But on the bright side, we're hitting the exponential part of our growth and we already know some of our future abilities are just bullshit. (Segarite core)
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From what we know of the big leagues so far, and it's very likely they have important trump cards hidden, I figure we need, bare minimum, the following to qualify:
Purifier Beam Level 15: This gets us up to a Base Damage 5,743 which is around the range big names seem to have. Also unlocks something new which, going by previous cases, is likely to big a pretty big power jump.
Celestial Severance Level 10: This gets us up to 51,200 damage, along with another unlock, which is good since most the top girls seem to have some kind of OP "Kill Everything" spell.
Indestructible Core: All the big players have either WTF big HP pools, some kinda of ability to make their smaller HP go the same distance, or in some cases like Goddess Gold's both. This should (hopefully) be ours since it's rather far* down the upgrade tree.
*Iron + Steel + Mythril + Adamantium Cores, Core Amplifier to unlock Core Containment, and 10 levels of Core Containment come to a total of 1,225. Throw in Indestructible Core's cost of 850xp and you get a total of 2,075 aka just more then Segarite Core.
Purifier Beam Level 15: This gets us up to a Base Damage 5,743 which is around the range big names seem to have. Also unlocks something new which, going by previous cases, is likely to big a pretty big power jump.
Celestial Severance Level 10: This gets us up to 51,200 damage, along with another unlock, which is good since most the top girls seem to have some kind of OP "Kill Everything" spell.
Indestructible Core: All the big players have either WTF big HP pools, some kinda of ability to make their smaller HP go the same distance, or in some cases like Goddess Gold's both. This should (hopefully) be ours since it's rather far* down the upgrade tree.
*Iron + Steel + Mythril + Adamantium Cores, Core Amplifier to unlock Core Containment, and 10 levels of Core Containment come to a total of 1,225. Throw in Indestructible Core's cost of 850xp and you get a total of 2,075 aka just more then Segarite Core.
We've also gotten quite a few major upgrades since then, such as Core Connection. We also don't know if indirect things such as Core Connection even factor into those rankings.
I specifically brought up Red Rose, because she has unusually low stats for her ranking, but has a completely bullshit ability that makes it so that a tank who can just barely get past her Resilience is probably a much tougher matchup for her than someone with can deal massive amounts of damage.
Rei of Sunshine
I walk through walls, I float down the Liffey
- Location
- Australia
So on our third mission, we met Gaia, Goddess White, the Maiden of the East, the Maiden of the West and WEAPON Angel.
Rei is never going to let us out of her sight ever again.
Rei is never going to let us out of her sight ever again.
Considering how much xp we're gaining from this mission, we'll probably curbstomp Judgement Core again in our rematch. I wonder if seeing our absurd growth rate, even compared to herself, will convince her to join the party for a while just to see how the hell we train so effectively.