baofengyu
moonfaced assassin of joy
- Location
- Pain Amplifier
Changing Destiny (Kancolle)
- Thread starter Skywalker_T-65
- Start date
- Location
- Pacific Northwest
- Location
- San Diego
only two of her crew remaining. Do you think she will stop crying when they too return to her?
floppy_seal99
D-O-G-A-R-S DOGARS!
- Location
- snooping as usual
Watched Midway earlier today, and now I get an update? HAHA BASED!
also lmao @ my dad asking me about the ships (the big metal hulls not the OTPs) and Navy guys and me giving all the stuff I learned from this thread
also lmao @ my dad asking me about the ships (the big metal hulls not the OTPs) and Navy guys and me giving all the stuff I learned from this thread
- Location
- Pacific Northwest
Sad and yet happy that her full ccomplement will always be with her.
still_guns
For the Empire!
- Location
- Bridge of ISS Conundrum
Pardon me, but I thought Revenge was crippled by Bismarck, not sunk.
This is the part that I find unbelievable.
British intelligence was just too good to be fooled by something like this. At the very least, they would have known what was captured, and the RAF and Magic should have informed them that the tanks were in-theater. This, in turn, should have made its way down the ranks, and Auchinleck should have been expecting something like this, with code phrases and challenges set up.
- Location
- Pacific NW
You do not realize just how dysfunctional Auchinleck's command staff and communications between him and his commanders was. The Dominion commanders despised Auchinleck's staffers and attempted to undermine them at every turn.
This is also still 1941. British intelligence had numerous failures in the Desert. IRL, General O'Connor and another general were captured by the Germans, because the intelligence guys swore that Rommel's forces were not in the area, whereas Rommel had numerous patrols probing and penetrating British lines on a regular basis.
Also, these tanks were captured and unloaded in Germany. After Rheinmetall played around with them for a bit, they shipped them to Italy and thence from Italy to Tripoli, well behind Axis lines. British intelligence had no way of being good enough to know the exact details of every logistical shipment landing in Libya. Especially where they had no means of reconnaissance over the ports in question.
And the most important point... the Germans and sometimes the British scavenged and salvaged every useful piece of equipment they could from the battlefields of North Africa IRL. At any given time, the Afrika Korps would have 25% to almost 50% salvaged British tanks and trucks to go into battle with. Rommel had to accumulate and save up for about four months before he would go on an offensive IRL, he was receiving so few supplies for the requirements of desert warfare.
Because the vast majority of men and arms had to go to the Eastern front.
This is also still 1941. British intelligence had numerous failures in the Desert. IRL, General O'Connor and another general were captured by the Germans, because the intelligence guys swore that Rommel's forces were not in the area, whereas Rommel had numerous patrols probing and penetrating British lines on a regular basis.
Also, these tanks were captured and unloaded in Germany. After Rheinmetall played around with them for a bit, they shipped them to Italy and thence from Italy to Tripoli, well behind Axis lines. British intelligence had no way of being good enough to know the exact details of every logistical shipment landing in Libya. Especially where they had no means of reconnaissance over the ports in question.
And the most important point... the Germans and sometimes the British scavenged and salvaged every useful piece of equipment they could from the battlefields of North Africa IRL. At any given time, the Afrika Korps would have 25% to almost 50% salvaged British tanks and trucks to go into battle with. Rommel had to accumulate and save up for about four months before he would go on an offensive IRL, he was receiving so few supplies for the requirements of desert warfare.
Because the vast majority of men and arms had to go to the Eastern front.
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CV12Hornet
Riter.
- Location
- Tacoma, Washington
That, and there was simply no way to get any extra supplies to Rommel at the front. The ports in Libya and the roads from Tripoli to the front were taxed to the max just getting him what supply he got.
- Location
- Pacific NW
Yep, which is why Guderian remarked he had been hoping for Panzer IVs and had gotten these Amerikan Panzers instead.
Which makes one just boggle at Italy's decision after getting their hands on Libya in 1912, to put in a road for trucks instead of a railroad.
Which makes one just boggle at Italy's decision after getting their hands on Libya in 1912, to put in a road for trucks instead of a railroad.
- Location
- USS Enterprise CV-6
So out of curiosity has anyone thought about sending Utah to help out against the invasion of the Philippines? A mobile platform with that many guns would do wonders to screw with the Japanese invasion timeline.
- Location
- Pacific Northwest
The American Navy isn't going to risk her in battle, until they know more about her, especially since she doesn't have her old main battery and has a bunch of 5"/38s in place of it.
Things they need to know are:
How is she going to be provisioned?
What provisions does she need?
Is her old protection scheme still being used?
What other support is she going to need?
How does she handle damage control?
If she's badly damaged, how is she going to be repaired?
What kind of cruising ability does she have?
What kind of maneuverability does she have?
These and other questions need answers, before the American Navy even thinks of planning on deploying Utah
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SKsniper128
22050 kg of ordinance per minute
Not to mention that they already had a hell of a time trying to get MacArthur to get off the islands in the desperate situation it was OTL. If they support him with Utah's firepower that will just encourage him to stay and fight a losing battle.
That's not even going into how they hell is a cut off Army unit going to be able to properly resupply a hungry shipgirl (battleships are notorious for having large logistical footprints) when they are practically on starvation rations themselves.
That's not even going into how they hell is a cut off Army unit going to be able to properly resupply a hungry shipgirl (battleships are notorious for having large logistical footprints) when they are practically on starvation rations themselves.
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- Location
- Pacific NW
Plus the other little question that I will be having Guderian ask Schreiber in my next bit: If she's a ship with her artillery from her hull, does that even manifest on land and can she fire it on land without the recoil harming herself? Also, considering the rarity shall we say, of Out of Hull Ship-Girls, can they even be risked in such a situation where the possibility of capture is a thing?
Just a couple of more questions that must be answered to everybody's satisfaction before such deployments of shipgirls are done.
Just a couple of more questions that must be answered to everybody's satisfaction before such deployments of shipgirls are done.
- Location
- USS Enterprise CV-6
To be fair Mac getting captured isn't necessarily a detriment to the Pacific War(may actually be a positive really) As for the feeding issue it may really depend on how Sky aims on covering it. For all we know shipgirls may just need to eat once every couple of weeks depending on what type of ship they were.
FailLord
2050 lb bombs?
- Location
- very high up
Also going from the sidestory, dosen't MacArthur have an manifested armoured cruiser in the phillipines right now?
- Location
- California
I'm always happy to see a Changing Des(s)tiny post!
Skywalker_T-65
Writer with too many ideas.
- Location
- United States
- Pronouns
- Plural/They/He/Her
A lot of questions will be answered with Rochester (aforesaid Armored Cruiser-girl) yes. That little nugget hasn't reached Thompson yet, and may not for a while yet. And, obviously, Schreiber isn't telling anyone about Frieda or any other girls he may have running around.
So far as anyone knows, right now, it's just Utah, Gneis, and Royal Oak.
(with Turbine, Roche, and Seydlitz-the-elder* slipping under the proverbial radar)
*which reminds me, Seydlitz-the-younger should be entering service now, since Schreiber kept her from being turned into a carrier from a 99% complete stage. Need to do another omake with her and Blucher.
So far as anyone knows, right now, it's just Utah, Gneis, and Royal Oak.
(with Turbine, Roche, and Seydlitz-the-elder* slipping under the proverbial radar)
*which reminds me, Seydlitz-the-younger should be entering service now, since Schreiber kept her from being turned into a carrier from a 99% complete stage. Need to do another omake with her and Blucher.
Archduke
Don't Take Geology Puns For Granite
- Location
- Texas
Part of me says that Thompson could try to use a shopgirl to call Bismarck (and thus Schreiber), but I'd be concerned by it getting picked up by the Germans.
Maybe they'll use a sub girl to talk with him later on, but these are probably gonna be far in the future.
Maybe they'll use a sub girl to talk with him later on, but these are probably gonna be far in the future.
ijnfleetadmiral
CinC Rengo Kanmusutai
- Location
- Admiral's Bridge, HIJMS Kongo
Just thought of a potential omake: Mutsu's crew starts to be able to see her, so when a certain Seaman is accused of theft she actually testifies on his behalf that he is innocent and the man is acquitted of the charges, thereby preventing certain events of 8 June 1943 and Nagato gets to have her sister around to tease her awhile longer. 
- Location
- United States of America
But she would just be living longer to be either sunk by a sub, dive/torpedo bombers, or a fast battleship or two?Just thought of a potential omake: Mutsu's crew starts to be able to see her, so when a certain Seaman is accused of theft she actually testifies on his behalf that he is innocent and the man is acquitted of the charges, thereby preventing certain events of 8 June 1943 and Nagato gets to have her sister around to tease her awhile longer.
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Sandy River DL
(Verified Destroyer Leader)
- Location
- Lake Michigan
- Pronouns
- Her/She
Or blows up anyways because iirc the evidence for malicious action was flimsy.
ijnfleetadmiral
CinC Rengo Kanmusutai
- Location
- Admiral's Bridge, HIJMS Kongo
Or doesn't meet a tragic end at all, depending on how quickly the war can be brought to an end. (I know it's an astronomically long shot, but sue me...Mutsu's one of my favorite shipgirls.)
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Spherical_Light
Likely Illuminating a room near you
- Location
- NW US
Considering I've actually watched this story develop for the past 6-9 months, and I finally made an account to comment.
I really like where you're going with this story. I think its very interesting how you are keeping the deal of how Royal Oak surfaced very quiet. Understandably so I guess as hardly anyone in the group truly has much rapport being as they are all from different nations. Getting to where they feel reasonably okay with divulging more information depends primarily on Thompson's openness at this point.
About Japan and ship girls there, I doubt Nagato will get Yamamoto's attention, not like Zuikaku did with one of her airmen [iirc]. Would like to see more of the Japanese goings on in this regard. Isn't the time frame closing in on the start of 1942 by this point?
I look forward to more.
I really like where you're going with this story. I think its very interesting how you are keeping the deal of how Royal Oak surfaced very quiet. Understandably so I guess as hardly anyone in the group truly has much rapport being as they are all from different nations. Getting to where they feel reasonably okay with divulging more information depends primarily on Thompson's openness at this point.
About Japan and ship girls there, I doubt Nagato will get Yamamoto's attention, not like Zuikaku did with one of her airmen [iirc]. Would like to see more of the Japanese goings on in this regard. Isn't the time frame closing in on the start of 1942 by this point?
I look forward to more.