Personally just want the Trans-Siberian road and just let the other road expansions sit.
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Attempting to Fulfill the Plan MNKh Edition
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this sounds like a really good idea
this sounds like a really good idea
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Eh. I honestly think that having wider major thoroughfares and limited access freeways in built-up areas is important too. It grants a lot more flexibility in how those roads are used and how likely they are to be entirely blocked by problems, and helps keep the road network as a whole from gridlocking despite heavy reliance on mass transit.
Buses use the road network, and trams often do too, and if all the roads are narrow two-lane jobs then this becomes a bit problematic.
I'm 100% in favor of continuing to fund expanded mass transit, but it's not good for anyone if there are places in the Union where due to narrow roads that don't match actual legitimate non-bullshit need, you have:
1) Locals nicknaming the road "Suicide Alley" because of the constant problem of head-on collisions with both vehicles going 80 km/h or more,
2) Traffic getting backed up for a kilometer behind someone's tractor or beat-up old jalopy simply because there's no passing lane worthy of the name,
3) 900 vehicles an hour all trying to go down the same traffic lane along the same two-lane road that passes through a residential neighborhood where children play, because that road is by far the shortest way from Point A to Point B despite the low speed limits and traffic control features.
There are valid reasons why nearly every country in the world has freeways and wide roads in certain places, especially in and around major urban areas. Two-lane roads simply are not enough for all applications and all places no matter how hard you push the mass transit button.
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Wow that sucks, as always with a nat 1. Hopefully we can fix it sooner rather than latter.
Shame this flopped but glad it's nat 1 lol. Oh well, research when it's a singular dice roll can be so swingy.
ooooh baby this is good. Helps deal with our bureaucratic manager issue we have as well I assume.
Shame it rolled to be a 12, a good/great roll would have been exciting to see.
Overall pretty good update. Always love seeing this quest keep chugging along!
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Well, unless we get new projects, we either have to basically do Dneprodzerzhinsk over after firing the guy who said "fuckit, good enough" when production hadn't actually spooled up like we wanted, so that we got
(24 CI5 Steel -12 CI1 Coal -4 CI1 Electricity -3 CI2 Workforce)
instead of
(79 CI6 Steel -6 CI1 Coal -11 CI1 Electricity +4 CI2 Workforce)
...
Or we have to do arc furnaces, which gives us a ton of steel output but at the cost of using ridiculously more electricity than Dneprodzerzhinsk would have.
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At least it sounds like we are over the hill on most of the metro housing issues and we even avoided dumping lead into standard octane engines. Between this and the paint nat100 we have actually done something serious for the betterment of the people. Combined with finally unfreezing minimum wage and I am cautiously optimistic for the decades standards of living.
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If I recall correctly in the Discord the new plastics in production are Polyethylene based plastics type 1, 2, and 3. LCI rolled well this turn and Voz is pleased.
If I recall correctly in the Discord the new plastics in production are Polyethylene based plastics type 1, 2, and 3. LCI rolled well this turn and Voz is pleased.
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It's the Providing explicit support to one of the SSRs that does it for me; I have a feeling that actions like this are likely to tie the Union to it's disparate parts. Given the collapse of the USSR IRL and the notes of some of Ukraine's troubles in this quest... I feel like patronage to a Ukrainian institution now could be a way to throw them a bone that may pay dividends later.
That, or choosing the "correct" personal actually ratfucks any such effort and I'm completely misreading the benefits.
It's the Providing explicit support to one of the SSRs that does it for me; I have a feeling that actions like this are likely to tie the Union to it's disparate parts. Given the collapse of the USSR IRL and the notes of some of Ukraine's troubles in this quest... I feel like patronage to a Ukrainian institution now could be a way to throw them a bone that may pay dividends later.
That, or choosing the "correct" personal actually ratfucks any such effort and I'm completely misreading the benefits.
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There's certainly some level of redundancy long term, yeah. Though short term they'll all probably see some use.
I think if we project out to the long term, then the PLA or improved versions might make sense for LEO operations, something that there will be a need for continuously and one can perhaps phase out capsules for that role then. While for now using a ballistic capsule for moon return is probably the easier solution, and if we're honest about it, that project will probably only run so long before it gets terminated as no longer needed. So that should help cut down on the diversity a bit.
As for the large plane launched system though... well I guess it depends on how continues from here, but if it has to much problems I could see everyone deciding to just cancel it and hope that some of the tech developed for it can be be reused elsewhere. It's certainly the most ambitious of the plans, possible in principle but pushing the limits of current ability. So guess one will have to see which way fortune goes on it and if the proposal will remain economically interesting as it evolves.
If it goes a bit along those lines, that the end result would be quite manageable I think. Though honestly it's not even all that bad yet, the current USA has several capsules and two space plane systems and then whatever Starship qualifies as, going at the same time right now in the real world. So in that light the current situation is still some what manageable, and one might for now just have to guard against any projects that are to unlikely to payoff in future.
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