Remove ads

A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

Reader mode
Amazing.
Let's not school him on feminism. He's due to die anyway along with his line, and if the daughter is associated with him we'll have to kill her too or at least ruin her life. Let's just make sure she gets something when he dies.
 
Goldfish said:
How about we offer to contact his daughter for him? Maybe we can finagle things so that she and her Skagosi Bard/Bloodraven pawn come to Graftonville and her son becomes the new heir?

Does Grafton have any sons currently? If so, maybe we can accidentally light them on fire until dead?
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
One son, very young during GoT, so might not be born yet.
 
TalonofAnathrax said:
Amazing.
Let's not school him on feminism. He's due to die anyway along with his line, and if the daughter is associated with him we'll have to kill her too or at least ruin her life. Let's just make sure she gets something when he dies.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
We're allowed to be pretty lenient. Our charge is humiliating the old Andal lines, not eradicating them, though that said we're allowed to go for eradication if we really want to. Half the job is already done with the daughter having run off and having given birth to the bastard child of a Skagosi. The other half is fully turning Lord Grafton away from the Seven.

We are making very good progress. I'd consider it a failure on our part if we had to resort to murdering him when our ultimate goal is to have him turn against the Seven once and for all and sacrifice Corbray to the Old Gods.
 
Squires are usually of ages six and seven and with Bloodraven around I don't think he has had any kids. After all he was tasked with ending the line. What better way to do so then to make sure none are born
 
Duesal said:
We're allowed to be pretty lenient. Our charge is humiliating the old Andal lines, not eradicating them, though that said we're allowed to go for eradication if we really want to. Half the job is already done with the daughter having run off and having given birth to the bastard child of a Skagosi. The other half is fully turning Lord Grafton away from the Seven.

We are making very good progress. I'd consider it a failure on our part if we had to resort to murdering him when our ultimate goal is to have him turn against the Seven once and for all and sacrifice Corbray to the Old Gods.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
We can be lentient, once some Blood for the Bloodgods has been spilled. DP was, a few years ago, quite clear that a loud part of the OGs is too pissed of to accept lentient methods before getting some revenge in.

So I suggest getting some Corbray blood on a tree before we start talking mercy.
 
TalonofAnathrax said:
Amazing.
Let's not school him on feminism. He's due to die anyway along with his line, and if the daughter is associated with him we'll have to kill her too or at least ruin her life. Let's just make sure she gets something when he dies.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

They don't have to die. When bringing up the issue of killing children or even babes, it was suggested that the Old Gods would be fine with ironic retribution, i.e converting the line to Old God worship or similar shenanigans.

Also, his death would be an enormous waste. He is a powerful Lord (Gulltown is one of the major cities of Westeros, and all City-Lords we know of are extremely powerful) with loyalist sentiments (not happy about Robert killing his daddy personally) and owes us big time for this. We could easily turn him around to our cause where he would be a major boon.
 
Mhm. I would have originally preferred killing this dude and then putting his daughter as the Lady of Gulltown after we successfully conquered Westeros. It would have been humiliating enough for old gods to lose some their vengeance boner.
 
Last edited:
Artemis1992 said:
We can be lentient, once some Blood for the Bloodgods has been spilled. DP was, a few years ago, quite clear that a loud part of the OGs is too pissed of to accept lentient methods before getting some revenge in.

So I suggest getting some Corbray blood on a tree before we start talking mercy.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Getting Corbray blood is part of the plan. ;)
 
Out of curiosity, where is Littlefinger at this point in time? Is he still in Gulltown?
 
Takesis said:
They want lines ended and The Seven themselves humbled.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
A small minority. We're allowed to go the humiliation route if we want.
DragonParadox said:
"Yes," you agree simply. "One last thing, I would know more of what I must do to fulfill my pact. What constitutes ending a House in the eyes of the Old Gods? Killing them all? Sending all them men to the Wall and the women to the Silent Sisters?"

"Not the latter for the Seven would find that pleasing. Have them wed some lesser lording their children to bear his name and it will be enough," he replies, to your mild surprise. "Mistake me not, there are those among the Greendream who wish for nothing less then bloody vengeance, their entrails hung upon Heart Trees as a warning to others and a sign of rage, but in all things there must be limits... even the vengeance of gods."

"And how might the Seven be humbled?" you ask after a moment.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Other things that qualify as "ending the line" would be the daughters married off far below their station, which is taken care of with Alyssa having eloped with a Savage Bard, sending the sons off to the Wall, etc. Besides, you guys are really underestimating just how much more lenient the Old Gods would be if Grafton turned around and offered Corbray as a sacrifice. There would still be a faction that wants Grafton blood, but there's always that bloodthirsty minority. The rest of the Old Gods will just make them shut up.
 
[X] Offer to attempt to contact his daughter and invite her to visit, suggesting that he might take this Old God's granted opportunity as a chance to reconcile with her.
-[X] If he accepts, and Alyssa proves willing, ask Dany to continue manipulating Grafton's dreams, including an underlying suggestion that he name Alyssa's son as his heir, legitimizing him in the process.
 
Duesal said:
A small minority. We're allowed to go the humiliation route if we want.

Other things that qualify as "ending the line" would be the daughters married off far below their station, which is taken care of with Alyssa having eloped with a Savage Bard, sending the sons off to the Wall, etc. Besides, you guys are really underestimating just how much more lenient the Old Gods would be if Grafton turned around and offered Corbray as a sacrifice. There would still be a faction that wants Grafton blood, but there's always that bloodthirsty minority. The rest of the Old Gods will just make them shut up.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
The old gods want the entire line ended. The advice of having the daughters marry off to lesser lordling was just a way of dealing with the females. They will still want the males killed or sent to the Wall.

Ofc, Sacrificing the corbray may make the old gods show mercy. But the important part is ending their house name and thus their legacy.
 
Last edited:
DkArthas said:
The old gods want the entire line ended. The advice of having the daughters marry off to lesser lordling was just a way of dealing with the female. They will still want the males killed or sent to the Wall.

Ofc, killing the corbray may make the old gods show mercy. But the important part is ending their house name and thus their legacy.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
I'm pretty sure we aren't that limited in our options. There are ways to handle this besides destroying house Grafton, by marriage or otherwise.
 
LonelyWolf999 said:
I'm pretty sure we aren't that limited in our options. There are ways to handle this besides destroying house Grafton, by marriage or otherwise.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
The Andals ended ancient First men houses. The old gods want "justice". The old "eye for an eye" sort. So, they want the Andal houses ended. It just doesn't matter how we do so. We don't even need to have a single member killed. Just their name and legacy grounded into dust.

At least that's what I got from the conversation.
 
Last edited:
DkArthas said:
The old gods want the entire line ended. The advice of having the daughters marry off to lesser lordling was just a way of dealing with the females. They will still want the males killed or sent to the Wall.

Ofc, Sacrificing the corbray may make the old gods show mercy. But the important part is ending their house name and thus their legacy.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
DkArthas said:
The Andals ended ancient First men houses. The old gods want "justice". The old eye for an eye sort. So, they want the Andal houses ended. It just doesn't matter how we do so. We don't even need to have a single member killed. Just their name and legacy grounded into dust.

At least that's what I got from the conversation.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
And the entire line is basically ended. IIRC currently Lord Grafton's only child right now is Alyssa. She's eloped with a freaking Skagosi. So long as the child never inherits the name, and so long as Lord Grafton never has another child, the line is dead for all intents and purposes.

However, the Old Gods will very likely stop howling for blood if we manage to get Grafton to sacrifice Corbray. We've been told repeatedly that with a bit of blood the angry voices will die down. However, an ancient Andal line betraying the Seven would be worth far, far more than simple humiliation or eradication.
 
Duesal said:
And the entire line is basically ended. IIRC currently Lord Grafton's only child right now is Alyssa. She's eloped with a freaking Skagosi. So long as the child never inherits the name, and so long as Lord Grafton never has another child, the line is dead for all intents and purposes.

However, the Old Gods will very likely stop howling for blood if we manage to get Grafton to sacrifice Corbray. We've been told repeatedly that with a bit of blood the angry voices will die down. However, an ancient Andal line betraying the Seven would be worth far, far more than simple humiliation or eradication.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
I agree. The sacrifice thing might work very well. If it doesn't we just have to make sure that the Lord Grafton doesn't have another child to carry his name.

Edit : Can we use a curse a make him sterile or something?
 
Last edited:
Reader mode
You must login or register to reply here.
Remove ads
Back
Top