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And to be honest, i have nothing against that, what bothers me is the hipocrisy of doing crazy things one day, and dismissing the very idea of researching something as too risky the next.
A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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Preparation for the blood-reactor. I've mentioned a few times in the last weeks as the second big research task.
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Wildfire is already scheduled to be taken care of this turn with careful use of Mind Blank between us and the Archons. Growing a tree in King's Landing right now is both unnecessary and dangerous, and the Iceheart can and should be put to use for other things.
My reasoning was that even with the dragon's share of the value of Mammon's Aspect being directed into our amazing new cloak, this is still in the end the corpse of a CR 21 Archfiend. What's left over is still going to be basically the most valuable and potent crafting materials we'll have access to for a while. That's why I felt we could get away with the relatively lower crafting price.
DP already approved of the price, by the way.
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Wait from that bleach quest?
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- Germany
Frankly, I would eat it in a heartbeat.
The problem is that what you propose is an ongoing risk. Once it's done, we have a piece of infrastructure that runs on Other-Power.
If you propose instead to use it to learn how to steal the power of the gods for ourselves, I'm all for it.
But leaving this thing unattended as part of some magic machine is going to blow up in our faces sooner or later. The thing should only be interacted with by high-level PCs.
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Red Dragon stealing Wind and Winter domain for Divine rank 0? Yes please!
Heck. If we could fracture it into many smaller parts eligible for Day of Change ritual we could make a few Heart Trees out of it efficiently.
Speaking of, @Duesal Brynden couldnt tell if there were CotF in the Riverlands could he?
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- being near locations is my passion.
Yes, but to me it's just a meme. Never actually read it though. Something about rational sounding arguments based on in-story hints leading to... people voting for stabbing the main character's heart for power.
Edit: My main problem is less to do with stabbing, and more with the idea of leaving the blade in and giving it a good wriggle
Tbh, I see little distinction between the perils of "Oblivion" objects being left to run somewhere so we can profit, and "Evil" objects in the same sort of process, but a few others do see difference. *Shrugs*
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Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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I've seen mentions of the blood reactor, but nothing about Vee researching Outsider biology. No biggie, though.
I'll pencil her in for seven days of research. Naria can help, if you want to pull her off anti-gravity research?
Anyone have any objections to halving Vee's Dinosaur training time in order to learn how to pervert nature for fun and profit?
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Why? Think of It like a nuclear reactor, they are incredibly safe as long as you dont put them on a place with constant earthquakes or let the interns play with them.
My problem here, really, is that you want to shut down research, not implementation, if the end result said "flaw: small chance of other invasion everytime someone uses the toilet" i would say "yeah, just Burn that thing", but we dont know yet, and what you are saying is that we should not try to Understand something, because we dont Understand it, and thats anathema to me.
Ok, there is a sunken cost if we do research, but that is going to help anyway, for whatever we use It as long as we dont sacrifice it. Binding and harnessing the heart is a requirement for its use.
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He could, but I think we already asked. We were told to go across the Narrow Sea to find the Ifequevron rather than him going, "By the way, there are a bunch of Children at the Isle of Faces."
No harm in double-checking, but I think you'll be disappointed.
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Leave Naria on anti-gravity. We need that done yesterday to get to the practical parts of the project.
Thank you for shuffling Vee.
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Me, the usual ones.
That said, I am genuily excited for trained dinosaurs, so if we discount my whole oppossition to the the general idea of this path of nature-perversion, I still want the dinosaurs more
*shrugs, happily, imagining dinosaur calavery, with many little Valerians with awesome darts on their backs. And necks. And heads.
Wait, @Goldfish, did Tyene ever make it to brravos for poison stuff? Mostly so she can help the silver eye a bit tbh, considering the spider and archfiend venom we have.
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@Goldfish, I'm in favor of swapping out the dinosaur training for the Outsider Biology research. This would still leave seven days for dinosaur training even after the days are swapped out, and the research is just flat out more important.
That was mostly offscreen stuff, though.
Yes. Last month.
That was mostly offscreen stuff, though.
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- Germany
Would you want a nuclear reactor which is running on pure plutonium and where every single fuel rod is sentient and hates you with undying passion?
I don't.
The reason we want to use Mammons carcass for the blood-reactor is that he severed all connections to it. It's safe to use, without any malevolent entity sitting behind it that could exploit it to screw us. This is also the reason why I'm decidedly not advocating to use the parts of Tiamats avatar for the CE phase of the reactor.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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- Formerly of the Far Realm
Okay, schedule reshuffled a little bit. Vee is only losing four days of Dinosaur training, as I've taken her off the Study of the Arcane action where she would guest lecture in the Scholarium. She probably wouldn't have liked that much anyway, and we still have Viserys putting in four days on that one this month, Lya doing three days, and Waymar doing three days.
This way, Vee and Soft Strider can work together on training the Dinosaurs for all ten days.
This way, Vee and Soft Strider can work together on training the Dinosaurs for all ten days.
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I have to admit, I'm feeling very smug about that clause.
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Was that you who came up with it? I don't remember.
If so, then yes, you have every right to be.
@Goldfish, could you earmark Lya for studying the rune lore Bloodraven just gave us next month? I'm pretty sure it will help immensely with all of our large-scale projects.
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It was indeed! While Goldfish and TNE were brainstorming their master plan, I was already looking ahead to the looting like a proper Magpie.
Can do. I was planning on pushing for studying this anyway. Bloodraven just handed us a tool to punch gods in the face. No way in hell we're not studying it.
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Then have a gold-star for that achievement.It was indeed! While Goldfish and TNE were brainstorming their master plan, I was already looking ahead to the looting like a proper Magpie.
Just let me get the scissors and a few scraps of Mammon to make you one...
Update in beta.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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- Formerly of the Far Realm
Now that Malarys is reaching level 14, he gets a couple more high level slots for spell preparation (one 6th and one 7th), and his new PRC, courtesy of @superguy2876 starts him off with the Long Arm of the Law ability, which gives all of his Touch-based spells a range of 30 feet, converting them into Ranged Touch Attacks. When Malarys reaches 15th level, we really need to have him learn Chain Spell to take maximum advantage of this new ability.
Here's a new spell loadout for him to take into account his new ability.
Forceful Strike at 4th level is a neat Touch-based spell he can now use at short range. It deals Force damage, which is just the best, and it Bull Rushes the victim, meaning you can push your victim quite far away from you without moving yourself. Better yet, it's cast as a Swift Action.
Plane Shift isn't just a good travel spell, it's also a Touch-based attack you can use to send an enemy to any awful Plane you've ever visited. Basically, it's like Dismissal, but slightly harder to resist. It requires a Will save, but that's nothing new, since both Dismissal and Banishment also require it. And unlike Banishment, it doesn't have an HD limit, though admittedly that's rarely a concern. Now that he can use Touch spells at range, Plane Shift becomes a nice little dual purpose spell, transport or cut-rate Banishment.
Harm is a super deadly spell. At 14th level, a failed Will save will inflict 140 points of damage on you. That kills most things dead. Better yet, even if you do make your Will save, you still take half damage. And now Malarys can shoot this at targets rather than needing to reach out and touch someone.
I'm kind of at a loss for Malarys' new 7th level spell. There are so many good things to choose from that it's hard to decide. For now I've got Summon Monster VII plugged in, as some really good Summoning options become available at this level.
Thoughts? @TotallyNotEvil?
Level 0 (6/day): Cure Minor Wounds, Detect Poison, Detect Magic x2, Message x2
Level 1 (4+2+D/day): Barbed Chains, Comprehend Languages, Endure Elements, Entropic Shield, Shield of Faith, Sign, Detect Secret Doors(D)
Level 2 (4+2+D/day): Boneshaker x2, Close Wounds, Defending Bone, Ironskin, Sound Burst, Detect Thoughts (D)
Level 3 (4+1+D/day): Alter Fortune, Blindness/Deafness, Channel Vigor, Dispel Magic, Tongues, Magic Circle Against Chaos (D)
Level 4 (4+1+D/day): Assay Spell Resistance, Blessing of Fervor, Forceful Strike, Sound Lance, Phantasmal Killer(D)
Level 5 (3+1+D/day): Boneshatter x2, Greater Command, Plane Shift, True Seeing(D)
Level 6 (3+1+D/day): Greater Dispel Magic, Harm, Heal, Stone Body, Hold Monster(D)
Level 7 (2+D/day): Destruction, Summon Monster VII, Dictum(D)
Here's a new spell loadout for him to take into account his new ability.
Forceful Strike at 4th level is a neat Touch-based spell he can now use at short range. It deals Force damage, which is just the best, and it Bull Rushes the victim, meaning you can push your victim quite far away from you without moving yourself. Better yet, it's cast as a Swift Action.
Plane Shift isn't just a good travel spell, it's also a Touch-based attack you can use to send an enemy to any awful Plane you've ever visited. Basically, it's like Dismissal, but slightly harder to resist. It requires a Will save, but that's nothing new, since both Dismissal and Banishment also require it. And unlike Banishment, it doesn't have an HD limit, though admittedly that's rarely a concern. Now that he can use Touch spells at range, Plane Shift becomes a nice little dual purpose spell, transport or cut-rate Banishment.
Harm is a super deadly spell. At 14th level, a failed Will save will inflict 140 points of damage on you. That kills most things dead. Better yet, even if you do make your Will save, you still take half damage. And now Malarys can shoot this at targets rather than needing to reach out and touch someone.
I'm kind of at a loss for Malarys' new 7th level spell. There are so many good things to choose from that it's hard to decide. For now I've got Summon Monster VII plugged in, as some really good Summoning options become available at this level.
Thoughts? @TotallyNotEvil?
Level 0 (6/day): Cure Minor Wounds, Detect Poison, Detect Magic x2, Message x2
Level 1 (4+2+D/day): Barbed Chains, Comprehend Languages, Endure Elements, Entropic Shield, Shield of Faith, Sign, Detect Secret Doors(D)
Level 2 (4+2+D/day): Boneshaker x2, Close Wounds, Defending Bone, Ironskin, Sound Burst, Detect Thoughts (D)
Level 3 (4+1+D/day): Alter Fortune, Blindness/Deafness, Channel Vigor, Dispel Magic, Tongues, Magic Circle Against Chaos (D)
Level 4 (4+1+D/day): Assay Spell Resistance, Blessing of Fervor, Forceful Strike, Sound Lance, Phantasmal Killer(D)
Level 5 (3+1+D/day): Boneshatter x2, Greater Command, Plane Shift, True Seeing(D)
Level 6 (3+1+D/day): Greater Dispel Magic, Harm, Heal, Stone Body, Hold Monster(D)
Level 7 (2+D/day): Destruction, Summon Monster VII, Dictum(D)
egoo
Totally Not Creating Problems Where None Existed
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The way I see it, the Heart by itself is of little importance for Shaitan, but would be a very nice cherry on top of the "reliable portal to Molten Skies"-pie.
Making it into a generator would be easy enough too - just sacrifice it to Old Gods/Yss/MK and get an artifact of slightly less power but no malevolence towards us.
Of course, it would not have the 9th level 1 per day-spell then, so that's a non-choice.
On the other hand, that would empower Old Gods, so worth it by itself.
Eating it ourselves is tempting.
Damn, is it tempting.
I want Viserys to finally succeed in stealing power from some deity so much, ugh.
Making it into a generator would be easy enough too - just sacrifice it to Old Gods/Yss/MK and get an artifact of slightly less power but no malevolence towards us.
Of course, it would not have the 9th level 1 per day-spell then, so that's a non-choice.
On the other hand, that would empower Old Gods, so worth it by itself.
Eating it ourselves is tempting.
Damn, is it tempting.
I want Viserys to finally succeed in stealing power from some deity so much, ugh.
You would have to first get Rina on researching the possibility IC.
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Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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Eating it ourselves is not tempting at all. At least not to me.
Viserys is a Red Dragon now, a being of Fire, with a distinct vulnerability to Cold-based damage and magic. Swallowing a Cold-based Artifact is just asking for trouble.