@DragonParadox, unrelated to the current vote, there was an idea floating around to get a proper supply of fiendish blood: namely, to use either our Fungus Forge or a Flesh Forge to create a sort of living vat that produces Fiendish Blood by the barrel. Obviously this would require a lot of research and would be prohibitively expensive to produce, but it would be a boon for things like Valyrian Steel and Magebane Poison (provided we can split the blood up into devilish and demonic). Would you be okay with letting us have that as a long-term research project? Even only having it for Valyrian Steel would be neat. Magebane Poison can be made through other means if necessary.

You would need to get metaphysical evil from somewhere to keep it flowing strong.

Then, and I see no way to phrase that without sounding like an asshole, DP is at fault for closing the vote at all.

I agree it is my fault for jumping the gun. Sometimes I get ahead of myself when I get an idea for the next update and non't think though the implications for the quest.
 
Interlude CCLXXXVI: Second Return
Second Return

Twentieth Day of the Fourth Month 293 AC

Jorel Fairwind lay down on the slap of dark stone, his head making an odd clinking sound as it lay over the arcane symbol etched in gold. He squeezed his mother's hand in reassurance. "I'm right as rain, mom," he proclaimed, though he was glad that he had no breath to hitch, no heartbeat to go faster, giving away the sham.

He was afraid, too. No matter how much his head knew that Wisdom Lya was the cleverest sorceress around, that he was safe in her care and that of her daughters, fear still coiled somewhere in his stomach, or where his stomach might have been were he to have one somewhere inside his hollow porcelain form. He remembered it being filled with a good meal, or what being toasty was like on a cold rainy night. He remembered the soft touch of his mother's lips on his cheek as she kissed him goodnight, and these he wanted... but he remembered other things, too: the cold darkness that hungered for light even as it hated it. Only Kyla had kept him from it, from turning into something like Him.

"It'll be alright," her voice came to him upon a soft conjured breeze. "Whatever comes, we'll face it..."

"Together,"
he finished, his spirits buoyed. He looked in turn to his sister, his mother and his father, drawing strength from each of them, from knowing he could just say he did not want to go through with it even now and they would all understand, no matter how much it costed, no matter what he was of might be they loved him still.

"I'm ready," he called, hope and fear balanced on a knife's edge in his voice. Strange incantations rang up above him as a familiar grey mist rose up to swallow him.

***​

He was alone and without form. Something called to him, a whisper that skittered like insects over his skin: "Come play, come see... such fun we'll have..." The old fear rose up to down him and this time there would be nothing to grasp, no light in the darkness. I'll always be with you, a false friend's promise turned poisonous taunt. He was angry, he was going to...

The boy felt small and weak, a hunted thing without a way out, and yet he was not the same child he had been those three years past, for he had traveled far and seen much. He had slept under a wizard's roof and supped with dragons, he counted a weaver of dreams his friend and many a time he had listened to her speak of all the horrors she had helped vanquish, of all the power that was gathered in the Deep, and all the many kinds of mages who called the Tower home. Had they all been deceived into some sick game of His? Was he ever so patient and so wise?

Jorel doubted, and like a crack in a dark wall the doubt spread and grew with every reason held as an effigy against terror until it had melted away like the morning mist. The twisted childlike figure he had been sure he could sense and hear once more revealed itself to be nothing but a dusty mirror reflecting only his own image.

"There is no peril more enduring to the mage thsn the one found within," he remembered Wisdom Teana saying, and the words had the ring of truth to them and yet the boy was discontent. It seemed a sad thing that he would ever have to watch for pitfalls he dug himself, his only reward the chance to make another step. Surely something better could be made of this? That was the sort of thought his sister might come up with... Kyla! That's what she would do.

Resolved to his task, Jorel stepped towards the mirror, if one without feet could be said to step, and reached out to touch it. "Are you there?" he called, uncertainly. He saw his sister, but not as she was now, her skin was less pale, her hair gleaming bright gold. So she might be if he had not dragged her into death's shadow, if he had not clung to her... Why would she want him, really? What good was he? Maybe he should just stay here... just rest... The thought came unwound like knitting pulled apart at the seams.

Distantly through the enveloping mist he could hear the voice of memory: "Why did he have to die? Didn't he think of mama?" Kyla's angry voice at their younger bother's funeral, like crimson sparks in the dark. Their father had chided her for it, but here was truth to it of a sort. It was not the dead who sorrowed, who mourned, but the living.

Just as fear had done despair gave way as soon as he has seen its true face. Was something testing him?

Jorel didn't care, he had family to get to, he had a life to live.

He felt his chest rise and fall with breath for the first time in years, his heart beat. "I'm back..."

For a long long time there was naught but hugs and cries of joy.

OOC: Sorry this took so long. I accidentally lost my draft about half-way though.
 
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You would need to get metaphysical evil from somewhere to keep it flowing strong.



I agree it is my fault for jumping the gun. Sometimes I get ahead of myself when I get an idea for the next update and non't think though the implications for the quest.
If we kept the vats fed solely through stuffing it full of still living Tyroshi magisters, would that be enough concentrated Evil, or would we need Outsiders for that?
 
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You would need to get metaphysical evil from somewhere to keep it flowing strong.
Hmmm... @DragonParadox, if we got particularly powerful devils and demons and thoroughly cursed and warped them until they became the vats for fiendish blood, would that qualify as a source of Evil? I'm thinking a Cornugon for the devils and whatever the equivalent would be for demons. Maybe a Marilith.
 
[X] Beside the homes of the Singers, that its guardian may serve as their ally forever more

I am just happier with having a Dryad, *we are the ecofriendliest king ever* than a better (nonflying) warship.
 
@Duesal?
Absolutely mad-scientist-grade idea.
Let's put Heart of Ice Dragon in one and have the pod make winter-touched blood.

Line it to directly flow on Heart Tree's roots.

Have a permanent, if slow, drain of energy from Others' realm to Old Gods' gullet.
My priorities are a bit different. I want this blood for us, for Valyrian Steel, for Magebane Poison, etc. We feed the Old Gods plenty of sacrifices as is, they don't need this too.
 
Alright, that's fair. And with the Valyrian Steel, honestly, Naria only needs a few days to present our new Qohorik Smith with everything we've already figured out on the subject. If he's good enough to fully figure out mithral in a few weeks, he's good enough to head this project on his own. The only problem is we've never met the guy and can't gauge how trustworthy he'll be and if he might decide to hide anything. Qohorik smiths are notoriously insular and secretive.
Unlike Zherys' pet Necromancer, this guys doesn't have a powerful sponsor that we can't afford to offend.

We can divine if he has done so and if he hid anything, it's Dominate and a quiet disposal for him.

We haven't gotten this close to VS production to be thwarted by a self-important twerp.
You would need to get metaphysical evil from somewhere to keep it flowing strong.
Hm... off-plane crafting reagents?
 
Second Return

Twentieth Day of the Fourth Month 293 AC

Jorel Fairwind lay down on the slap of dark stone, his head making an odd clinking sound as it lay over the arcane symbol etched in gold. He squeezed his mother's hand in reassurance. "I'm right as rain, mom," he proclaimed, though he was glad that he had no breath to hitch, no heartbeat to go faster, giving away the sham.

He was afraid, too. No matter how much his head knew that Wisdom Lya was the cleverest sorceress around, that he was safe in her care and that of her daughters, fear still coiled somewhere in his stomach, or where his stomach might have been were he to have one somewhere inside his hollow porcelain form. He remembered it being filled with a good meal, or what being toasty was like on a cold rainy night. He remembered the soft touch of his mother's lips on his cheek as she kissed him goodnight, and these he wanted... but he remembered other things, too: the cold darkness that hungered for light even as it hated it. Only Kyla had kept him from it, from turning into something like Him.

"It'll be alright," her voice came to him upon a soft conjured breeze. "Whatever comes, we'll face it..."

"Together,"
he finished, his spirits buoyed. He looked in turn to his sister, his mother and his father, drawing strength from each of them, from knowing he could just say he did not want to go through with it even now and they would all understand, no matter how much it costed, no matter what he was of might be they loved him still.

"I'm ready," he called, hope and fear balanced on a knife's edge in his voice. Strange incantations rang up above him as a familiar grey mist rose up to swallow him.

***​

He was alone and without form. Something called to him, a whisper that skittered like insects over his skin: "Come play, come see... such fun we'll have..." The old fear rose up to down him and this time there would be nothing to grasp, no light in the darkness. I'll always be with you, a false friend's promise turned poisonous taunt. He was angry, he was going to...

The boy felt small and weak, a hunted thing without a way out, and yet he was not the same child he had been those three years past, for he had traveled far and seen much. He had slept under a wizard's roof and supped with dragons, he counted a weaver of dreams his friend and many a time he had listened to her speak of all the horrors she had helped vanquish, of all the power that was gathered in the Deep, and all the many kinds of mages who called the Tower home. Had they all been deceived into some sick game of His? Was he ever so patient and so wise?

Jorel doubted, and like a crack in a dark wall the doubt spread and grew with every reason held as an effigy against terror until it had melted away like the morning mist. The twisted childlike figure he had been sure he could sense and hear once more revealed itself to be nothing but a dusty mirror reflecting only his own image.

"There is no peril more enduring to the mage thsn the one found within," he remembered Wisdom Teana saying, and the words had the ring of truth to them and yet the boy was discontent. It seemed a sad thing that he would ever have to watch for pitfalls he dug himself, his only reward the chance to make another step. Surely something better could be made of this? That was the sort of thought his sister might come up with... Kyla! That's what she would do.

Resolved to his task, Jorel stepped towards the mirror, if one without feet could be said to step, and reached out to touch it. "Are you there?" he called, uncertainly. He saw his sister, but not as she was now, her skin was less pale, her hair gleaming bright gold. So she might be if he had not dragged her into death's shadow, if he had not clung to her... Why would she want him, really? What good was he? Maybe he should just stay here... just rest... The thought came unwound like knitting pulled apart at the seams.

Distantly through the enveloping mist he could hear the voice of memory: "Why did he have to die? Didn't he think of mama?" Kyla's angry voice at their younger bother's funeral, like crimson sparks in the dark. Their father had chided her for it, but here was truth to it of a sort. It was not the dead who sorrowed, who mourned, but the living.

Just as fear had done despair gave way as soon as he has seen its true face. Was something testing him?

Jorel didn't care, he had family to get to, he had a life to live.

He felt his chest rise and fall with breath for the first time in years, his heart beat. "I'm back..."

For a long long time there was naught but hugs and cries of joy.

OOC: Sorry this took so long. I accidentally lost my draft about half-way though.

Nice! Jorel is a real boy again. How does this affect Kyla's abilities as a Witch? He was her Familiar, after all.

Few things are more frustrating than having to redo work because a program crashed, or something similar, and you didn't save it beforehand. It mostly happens to me with spreadsheets now, but I've had it happen with a few papers I was writing back in school.
 
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Unlike Zherys' pet Necromancer, this guys doesn't have a powerful sponsor that we can't afford to offend.

We can divine if he has done so and if he hid anything, it's Dominate and a quiet disposal for him.

We haven't gotten this close to VS production to be thwarted by a self-important twerp.
Don't get me wrong, I agree. I want to check through divination that this guy isn't hiding anything from us. If gets in the way of something as important as Valyrian Steel then it will not go well for him.

Fingers crossed, though. I at least wanted him to make some thinblades before we have to kill him.
 
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Don't get me wrong, I agree. I want to check through divination that this guy isn't hiding anything from us. If gets in the way of something as important as Valyrian Steel then it will not go well for him.

Fingers crossed, though. I at least wanted him to make some thinblades before we have to kill him.
I'm pretty certain the guy isn't suicidal enough to try anything. This was just tje hypothetical response in case he does have a few levels of Unchained Moron.
 
I've long-since given up on keeping the Heart of Winter, but it's going to be objectively better to poke at Bloodraven to give us a ritual to make the Others have a bad day, possibly by making the Nightfort an impregnable stronghold or something. Or maybe Bloodraven will be able to propose something else.
I'm pretty certain the guy isn't suicidal enough to try anything. This was just tje hypothetical response in case he does have a few levels of Unchained Moron.
I've always wanted a Qohorik smith, but at the same time I haven't been hopeful of them being reasonable. Think back to the last one we met. He only wanted to teach dragonlords, and the second he was healed the offer was off the table because he never actually wanted to share the technique in the first place and was only doing so because he wasn't in a state to forge his last work.

I dearly hope that you're right and that he won't do anything so stupid as try to keep secrets from us.
Then there will be a new skull in the racks.
Yes. I already have a place set aside for him if he betrays us.
 
If the heart of winter really has a backchannel to the Others, what happens if it gets thrown into the center of the plane of fire?
 
[X] The Queen Rhaella, awakening the ship to life

Good update dp! Also hooray! Boats!

Hmm. Metaphysical evil.

If we're still planning on putting dawnfruit in the drinking water, could we re route our septic system to collect all the purged evil? Then use it to ffeed the fiend blood machine?

(Wow. That's a really, really gross idea. Ew. Poo demon no thank you.)
 
If the heart of winter really has a backchannel to the Others, what happens if it gets thrown into the center of the plane of fire?
I think we'd need to study that avenue first and make sure it would actually harm the Others.

If we're supremely unlucky, we might accidentally introduce a big chunk of the Plane of Fire to true Winter.
If we're still planning on putting dawnfruit in the drinking water, could we re route our septic system to collect all the purged evil? Then use it to ffeed the fiend blood machine?
There wasn't any plan for that as far as I can tell. We already have a state-of-the-art water purification system in place, and a sewage system that's just as good. Dawn Fruit Mead was never involved there.
 
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