More seriously, on the spot executions make us look like a crazy tyrant. Just let them go and keep an eye on those known traitors to catch them red-handed with their compatriots later.
I disagree.

Sometimes, you have to lay down the LAW. This is essentially a way for the message "no more slaves" to really sink. There's no beating around the bush, no polite fictions. We show precisely the position they are in, and let natural selection run it's course.

When they realize that yes, even the best liars among them get caught (because realistically, the one way for them to beat our Sense Motive is a nat 20 on their parts and a nat 1 on ours, on top of maxed Bluff, Skill Focus and high Charisma), they should realize there's no bullshiting their way out of this situation.
 
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Hmm

Could we use blood wish to melt all the gold in the room?

Edit: I would like that actually. Literally strip the dishonest of their wealth by fire.

We could heal them as they leave the room.

We should also point out that they as the ruling class. Had a responsibility one that they failed.

Just to hammer home that we view them as mewling incompetent children.
 
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I disagree.

Sometimes, you have to lay down the LAW. This is essentially a way for the message "no more slaves" to really sink. There's no beating around the bush, no polite fictions. We show precisely the position they are in, and let natural selection run it's course.

When they realize that yes, even the best liars among them get caught (because realistically, the one way for them to beat our Sense Motive is a nat 20 on their parts and a nat 1 on ours, on top of maxed Bluff, Skill Focus and high Charisma), they should realize there's no bullshiting their way out of this situation.
Yeah fuck them slavers kill them all for all I care maybe strip them of their clothes first displaying them being burnt alive and naked. So we can get the loot.
 
Hmm

Could we use blood wish to melt all the gold in the room?
It's easy enough to get our underlings to carry the gildings and the melted jewlery of the stupider ones. No need to waste magic.

Seriously tho, if they don't realize the situation after the second or so spontaneous combustion, if not the first, they aren't worth letting live anyway.

It is simple, we make them a promise: They can outright say they won't follow through, and they still get out of this. But if they lie, they die.

We need to follow throughn on promises like these.
 
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It's easy enough to get our underlings to carry the gildings and the melted jewlery of the stupider ones. No need to waste magic.

Seriously tho, if they don't realize the situation after the second or so spontaneous combustion, if not the first, they aren't worth letting live anyway.
I like your style loot them and kill them. If you could add looting them and not destroying their valuables too the vote I would be happier.
 
I am not sure if TNE is making some kind of... Look at how evil your all being point. But I am less enthused about burning people alive.

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Also, pyrofrog is appropriately pyrophilic.
 
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I am not sure if TNE is making some kind of... Look at how evil your all being point. But I am less enthused about burning people alive.
We burn people alive all the time, tho?

You can just have the guards on the room stab them where they stand, they die all the same.

Burning with a look is to make a point tho, and there shouldn't be more than two, tops.

These people will rationalize their way into thinking "he can't really be serious about it, right?". The way to stop that is by shocking them out of their complacency and self-importance.
 
@TotallyNotEvil, there are better ways to do this then wrecking our PR utterly for a spot of cheap dick-waving.

@Diomedon, this would be a great moment for a more reasonable plan.
How does this ruin our PR?

I mean, if you are dead set against fire, then have the guards stab them.

Point is, or we shock the reality of the situation into them, or they will rationalize their way into making stupid decisions.
 
TNE's plan of burmination sounds too much like thought police. We don't wanna go so far. We want them to prove useful, and judge their actions, not their thoughts.
 
How does this ruin our PR?

I mean, if you are dead set against fire, then have the guards stab them.

Point is, or we shock the reality of the situation into them, or they will rationalize their way into making stupid decisions.
We want them to make stupid decisions.

That will provide us with our excuse to lynch them, then rob them.
 
A little rushed, was still polishing a bit, but wanted to show the direction I was heading in.

[X] Plan Good News, Everyone!
-[X] Greet the gathered magisters in good cheer. Their acknowledgement of the ill rule that had permitted a festering, decadent rot to strangle the city the last few months is good to hear, as are their concerns for the proper business of trade and the plight of those in chains.
-[X] You are here to reassure them. The slaves of Tyrosh are not going to be simply freed and tossed out to starve, leaving the city in chaos. You will see to it that slaves will receive an adequate compensation from their owners for their service, suggestions for what wages to pay servants for those who are not familiar with such things, and pursuits to direct those who wish to leave their current work towards, such as your legion which already consist of many who were once in bondage. That way, even the most wayward person could be shepherded into being of use to the city, with the very few who cannot seeing justice.
-[X] Legitimate, non-slave based, trade, of course, will resume. You would not wish to see the city or it's leading citizens impoverished. Of course, there will be some disruption, but if someone is unable to make a profit with a trading vessel, surely they did not deserve such wealth in the first place.
[X] And you are glad you managed to save this city from the rot within. You excised the worst of it last night, things such as this (toss a leukadaemon head in their midst), but there might still remain some dangers, and of course there is the matter of those who opened the door to such things with their excesses and degenerate behavior.
[X] Cooly announce the arrest of the magisters from your list who are present, guarantee them a fair trial and consideration in sentencing for presenting themselves to you. Of those present, you will send a small legion detachment home with each of them to seize their documentation, explain things to their former slaves, and see that your will is carried out. You appreciate their cooperation. You will be sending much larger detachments to arrest the others from your list, to seize the documents of all who did not come, and to bring them and their families before you so that they might be similarly informed, though you will not be pleased, unlike you are with the magisters before you.
 
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How does this ruin our PR?

I mean, if you are dead set against fire, then have the guards stab them.

Point is, or we shock the reality of the situation into them, or they will rationalize their way into making stupid decisions.
Because you murder people on a whim.

Why do we even bother with the show-trials to establish a legitimate rule if law, when we turn around and randomly murder people like a CE nutcase?

You want to act like a Demon, not like a Devil.
 
[X] Diomedon
No burning people at court, that shit should take a high will save to even consider, thats the worst possible rep we can get, our father's rep.
 
If he gets mad enough.

Which he is not. Mostly he's just disillusioned. This is the face of mortal nobility.

It's not even properly evil. It's just...

Gross..
Precisely.

I've struggled so much with these guys since I just wanted to tell them to be good little kiddies and comply with whatever orders the Legion passes them on from us.

They are... useless... nothing less and nothing more. I'm feeling we are wasting our time by simply being in the same room as them.

They are honestly not worth the stains in the carpet, let alone the PR hit.
 
My aim is to keep them busy with helping do what we want with their personal household slaves, and cooperating, while they wonder the fate of those we're dragging them and their entire families to court to make them really feel that they made the right choice in submitting and that not cooperating look like the stupidest idea anyone ever said.

@Diomedon maybe sprinkle in a bit of the anger from @Azel s speech? It was just.. really cool.

That's my next pass of edits, with the anger bit falling at the end. Then putting together the Valaena part of the vote.
 
I don't see it as a whim.

We gave fair warning, we should have to act all of once to show we are serious.

But fine, whatever. I think we have too much of a tendency to spect modern-day sensibilities and things like facebook and youtube, which can spread verifiable news fast.
Murdering on the spot is not too bad (It kind of dininishes our rule of law tho, they should get a trial), but burning them is a really bad idea.
Basically we are saying "I am my father's son, his sins are mine and this is what you can expect of my rule"
 
I don't see it as a whim.

We gave fair warning, we should have to act all of once to show we are serious.

But fine, whatever. I think we have too much of a tendency to spect modern-day sensibilities and things like facebook and youtube, which can spread verifiable news fast.
To someone without Viserys Sense Motive, it will look random and they will obviously talk about it, thus causing panic among the magisters.
 
Guys I want to get through these magisters quickly no political hopping. If they really want to piss us off let them die. I am not giving these magisters a chance to betray us even if they have no chance of beating us they have a chance to destabilize things, to kill innocents, to torture and rape former slaves. By the end of all this one way or another many magisters will die stop sugarcoating it they will die no discussion needs to be made why.
 
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