A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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The thing is that Heroics stays relevant, but the BAB bonus doesn't. After Rhealla retrains, she will have BAB 3, which the sword upgrades to 5. Effectively a +2 effect. However, it becomes +1 at 8th level and useless at 10th.
The effects are neat for an NPC with no combat training, but quickly worthless on a PC.
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Does no one else want to propose to Lya today its thematically appropriate?
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Dany won't out-sword Richard.
Even with all her magic she can't copy Power Attack, Shock Trooper and all the other feats. Also Manoeuvers.
The sword would make melee a viable option for her against dragons, but no more than that.
A decent situational trick.
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It's hardly straightforward, continuing the Pokemon theme we got offered 3 Magikarp, 1 has Fire last, 1 has Hydropump and 1 has Razorleaf.
All amazing examples of Magikarp.
Whichever you pick will never evolve and always be in your party.
Sure we're about to face Blane so Hydropump makes sense right? But we already have a Lapras... and we might have a chance at a Blastoise.
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Hey guys what is considered a traditional wedding in Viscerys cultures? Seriously I want to propose to Lya today its thematically appropriate in my opinion.
tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
It's not a BAB bonus, it's the sword becoming a dancing blade, attacking either at BAB +5 or Rhaella's BAB whichever is higher, so basically it's the sword becoming a combatant for 4 rounds with Rhaella's BAB or BAB +5, once Rhaella's BAB becomes higher than +5, it just uses Rhaella's BAB for it's dancing blade attack.
It's a sword that can fight independently of Rhaella, not a sword that gives a bonus to Rhaella's BAB when she's using it to fight.
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Even if she can't, which I doubt, Imagine being Usain Bolt and Elon Musk breaks your Olympic Record in the 100m.
You still have the World Record obviously but you also aren't at the forefront of self driving cars, solar power and space travel.
That's just my personal view but I find it harder to enjoy the interplay of party members and their complimentary talents if one of them is Captain Planet *All your powers combined.
*90% of
Valentine's Day is not a thing on Planetos.
More importantly now would be more kneejerk than after level 15, it would seem to all as a political ploy exactly 1 year after conquering SD and just having inducted the First Legionnaires etc.
Strengthening the burgeoning state with the legitimacy of succession rather than out of love.
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Consolidating.
[X] Crake
@Deliste, calling it a Magikarp is a bit unfair. It's a nice sword with great effects, but...
Viserys is usually better served to full-blast or go HHD melee.
Danys effect would be useful once in a blue moon and would make more sense for the champion of the Father that got tasked to kill us.
Rhaellas is great, but only while she is a NPC.
It's great, but not for our party.
[X] Crake
@Deliste, calling it a Magikarp is a bit unfair. It's a nice sword with great effects, but...
Viserys is usually better served to full-blast or go HHD melee.
Danys effect would be useful once in a blue moon and would make more sense for the champion of the Father that got tasked to kill us.
Rhaellas is great, but only while she is a NPC.
It's great, but not for our party.
tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
Dancing is a decent thing even as a PC, sure it's a only having a sword flying around and fighting for you, but it's 4 rounds of attacks for 1 standard action.
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Hey I said it was an amazing Magikarp but the soulbind hurts too much and the political ramifications are annoying to deal with.
If this wasn't Darksister I'd be looking at our subordinates.
It's downright dangerous to have it on Viserys. Anyone who ever thought we might have risked a bit much to take something down alive to either talk or sacrifice you haven't seen shit til you see Viserys hold his action and walk up to the thing to hit it with a sword.
It's not damages 12 HD worth, it's kill, we must get the killing blow.
I don't want to be tempted with that every combat for the rest of the quest, and if we don't take that attitude it will never hit 12HD in a day.
[X] Crake
It could be swung to Rhaella with Crake and 4 others or 2 switching from the leading vote.
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Crazy idea:
Who among our friends has the highest UMD (to use a usually limited artifact)?
Who does not yet have a unique weapon?
Who actually combines (armed) melee and magic to some degree?
Time for Glyra the greatest Gremlin!
Who among our friends has the highest UMD (to use a usually limited artifact)?
Who does not yet have a unique weapon?
Who actually combines (armed) melee and magic to some degree?
Time for Glyra the greatest Gremlin!
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That's the problem. Triggering the effect takes careful and deliberate effort, which is ultimately wasted when we could be blasting or turtling instead.
And then we might not even have additional fights afterwards.
What's the point even? It gives a bit of damage to the very blasting that it would hamper. For SR, we would still need ASR for secures hits.
It would be awesome for a Gish, but Viserys isn't a Gish when outside his HHD form and then it's much easier and nicer to use claws. Let alone when he becomes a True Dragon and couldn't use the sword anymore.
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While that would be funny as hell, it would run headfirst into the political baggage of that blade.
Locking it up and maybe pulling it out later when Rhaella retrained seems the better option.
tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
Only positive thing about it is that it don't require sentient or magical HD, so we can charge it for the day by butchering some animals, so any day we know we are going into combat with it, we can just buy 12 HDs worth of sheep or pigs to butcher.
Still isn't really worth it, but we can get that bonus anytime we need it, heck I'm guessing more than 12 HDs worth of butchering happen in the Deep every day, so we can set things up to just assist a butcher for that bonus.
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In the hands of a trickster it wouldn't have to look like Dark Sister, I think...
Still, giving it to Rhaella when she's worthy of an artifact seems like the best guess.
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I am aware valentines day isn't a thing on planetos its thematically appropriate in a meta sense. Also I don't give a shit what others think I want Viscerys to marry lya.
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Goldfish proposed prisoners, which DP shot down due to them being no threat and the HD needing to be collected in battle. Animals wouldn't work either.
I'm not even sure if a Fighter 2 would count, even if slain in war, for that's still a tiger murdering a mouse.
tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
If that is the case then it's utterly useless, it would lessen our amount of sacrifices far too much.
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Ioun Stone = Always On +1
Create Magic Tattoo = +1 for 1 Day
Ring of Arcane Might = Always on +1
Ioun Stone = Always On +1
Create Magic Tattoo = +1 for 1 Day
Ring of Arcane Might = Always on +1
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It would count. Hell even a commoner with a pitchfork would count so long as he is honestly trying to kill you in open battle. If your enemies are incompetent then all the better for you.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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I was going to voice confusion about why the special ability for Viserys that we'll probably never benefit from is so very niche and unlikely to ever trigger, but then I realized something. Everyone else also got a special ability that was incredibly niche and focused, too.
@DragonParadox, I think I know what you're going for. It kind of sucks that the effect on an artifact that literally reshapes itself to better suit whoever wields it is about as helpful as concrete shoes while standing on a lake of ice, but it's not as if any of these people have any earthly reason to be wielding a sword into battle against high CR opponents when they rely on magic, or aren't combatants in the first place.
Though I will admit to a little biting disappointment that if this is the better of two blades, Blackfyre must be hilariously underwhelming.
At least until you let Tia-chan get her claws on it and empower it into a +3 (one more than ours) Dragon-killing blade with +1 always-on caster levels.
@DragonParadox, I think I know what you're going for. It kind of sucks that the effect on an artifact that literally reshapes itself to better suit whoever wields it is about as helpful as concrete shoes while standing on a lake of ice, but it's not as if any of these people have any earthly reason to be wielding a sword into battle against high CR opponents when they rely on magic, or aren't combatants in the first place.
Though I will admit to a little biting disappointment that if this is the better of two blades, Blackfyre must be hilariously underwhelming.
At least until you let Tia-chan get her claws on it and empower it into a +3 (one more than ours) Dragon-killing blade with +1 always-on caster levels.