@DragonParadox The vote has swung now that people have had a chance to appreciate Viserys' insulting wordcraft.
Adhoc vote count started by Goldfish on Jan 22, 2018 at 3:04 PM, finished with 142842 posts and 13 votes.

  • [X] "Play your games, wretched slave, and I shall play mine. If the champions of the Bitch Queen of Dragons cannot lay me low, what hope does a creature so debased as you have?"
    -[X] Use Bloodraven's Staff to summon a swarm of crows and watch through their eyes
    -[X] Once they find the foe, or are attacked by him, cast Nerveskitter then launch an Agonizing Fireball toward it's location.
    [X] Use Bloodravens Staff to summon a swarm of crows and watch through their eyes
    -[X] Once they find the foe, or are attacked by him, you and Dany go for its location, shoot a quickened Fireball while flying there

Adhoc vote count started by Goldfish on Jan 22, 2018 at 3:05 PM, finished with 142845 posts and 14 votes.

  • [X] "Play your games, wretched slave, and I shall play mine. If the champions of the Bitch Queen of Dragons cannot lay me low, what hope does a creature so debased as you have?"
    -[X] Use Bloodraven's Staff to summon a swarm of crows and watch through their eyes
    -[X] Once they find the foe, or are attacked by him, cast Nerveskitter then launch a Searing Agonizing Fireball toward it's location.
    [X] Use Bloodravens Staff to summon a swarm of crows and watch through their eyes
    -[X] Once they find the foe, or are attacked by him, you and Dany go for its location, shoot a quickened Fireball while flying there
 
At the risk of coming across as persistant.

@DragonParadox, I suppose what bewilders me the most is that it wants Rhaella despite how the hunt started long before she came into the picture. And since Bloodraven's lair is unscriable, it's only had, what? Hours to divine and even know she was alive? Or are you saying they knew this would happen before? If so, how? Can they scry south of the Wall somehow (and do note that it's Summer, the Wall is supposed to stymie them, and they don't have Weirwoods) or otherwise knew this was coming since several turns before the players decided to go on this trip? The only alternative is they can eavesdrop on the Old Gods themselves, and that's a bit beyond my SoD's tolerance limit.

The White Walkers already have numbers, immortality and thousands of years of preparations in their corner. Adding perfect uber divination is enough to make me wonder why they haven't taken over the world in the past 8000 years, Wall or no. Never mind since magic came back.

And you even describe the Old Gods having time/ateporal portfolio being this huge thing, on the front page.

Tl;Dr: Yes, I am, in fact, surprised the Great Other (or whoever sent this thing over) can match the Old Gods/Bloodraven at their own thing. :V
 
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Using the most recent vote.

At the risk of coming across as persistant.

@DragonParadox, I suppose what bewilders me the most is that it wants Rhaella despite how the hunt started long before she came into the picture. And since Bloodraven's lair is unscriable, it's only had, what? Hours to divine and even know she was alive? Or are you saying they knew this would happen before? If so, how? Can they scry south of the Wall somehow (and do note that it's Summer, the Wall is supposed to stymie them, and they don't have Weirwoods) or otherwise knew this was coming since several turns before the players decided to go on this trip? The only alternative is they can eavesdrop on the Old Gods themselves, and that's a bit beyond my SoD's tolerance limit.

The White Walkers already have numbers, immortality and thousands of years of preparations in their corner. Adding perfect uber divination is enough to make me wonder why they haven't taken over the world in the past 8000 years, Wall or no. Never mind since magic came back.

Tl;Dr: yes, I am, in fact, surprised the Great Other (or whoever sent this thing over) can match the Old Gods/Bloodraven at his own thing. :V

It's not perfect divination, there is no perfect divination, but it knew you were in the North with one of her bones.
 
I hope there was at least an insight check rolled for the enemy to even think about looking for bones on our person, let alone scry everything we're carrying, because otherwise it's just more of the same "you can never surprise your enemies except by accident" theme I've been seeing on an off.
Lead blocks divination, but Mindblank blocks you from divination and everything you're carrying, and it negates all mind-effects.
I know, but we can't exactly afford to wait for Mind Blank, can we? Not when enemies apparently are genre savvy enough to check if we're carrying bones with us. It shouldn't be too hard or expensive to make a lead case to hide plot items in.

Speaking of, we should line our castle, or at least a room or two, with lead too. That way we don't have to cram prisoners in with sensitive items, if nothing else.
 
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I know, but we can't exactly afford to wait for Mind Blank, can we? Not when enemies apparently are genre savvy enough to check if we're carrying bones with us. It shouldn't be too hard or expensive to make a lead case to hide plot items in.
Plot items are carried in the bag of holding by Ser Richard who has Mindblank, and are thus protected from divination.
Speaking of, we should line our castle, or at least a room or two, with lead too. That way we don't have to cram prisoners in with sensitive items, if nothing else.
Kind of redundant. Teana already put up Blood Wards all over the castle. She even made it so that we can safely insert and extract the Shadow Tower without disturbing the wards.
 
Plot items are carried in the bag of holding by Ser Richard who has Mindblank, and are thus protected from divination.

Kind of redundant. Teana already put up Blood Wards all over the castle. She even made it so that we can safely insert and extract the Shadow Tower without disturbing the wards.
Why was Stannis' imprisonment so fraught with divination worries then? Or did the wards only get put in place more recently?

And why wasn't Richard carrying Rhaella's bone then? Because if he was, then the enemy should not, in fact, have known we had Rhaella's bone with us.
 
Why was Stannis' imprisonment so fraught with divination worries then? Or did the wards only get put in place more recently?
I'm not following. What divination worries are you talking about? You mean the divinations we did over Renly and if he was actually Renly or not?
And why wasn't Richard carrying Rhaella's bone then? Because if he was, then the enemy should not, in fact, have known we had Rhaella's bone with us.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I have no answer to this one. By all rights Mindblank should have made the bone simply not show up in any divinations.
 
I'm not following. What divination worries are you talking about? You mean the divinations we did over Renly and if he was actually Renly or not?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I have no answer to this one. By all rights Mindblank should have made the bone simply not show up in any divinations.
I seem to remember Stannis was kept in the same room as "weird and dangerous artefacts on the level of the insect godhead" thing, at least at first, but maybe I'm just retroactively hallucinating.

That said, @DragonParadox, how DID the bone show up on divinations if Richard was carrying it?
 
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