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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Azel said:
I'm pretty certain that DP will add a Spellcraft check for her to miraculously recall the plot critical information at the right time.
Using her ideas to get True Seeing on Viserys is a better investment.
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I wouldn't be surprised. This entire encounter was obviously crafted to fuck with us to the maximum possible extent without DP treading into Evil DM territory.

That said, I think your plan is overly convoluted and assumes that for some reason the mysterious Living Spell generating fountain, which is just stupidly powerful BTW and puts most canon artifacts to shame with its ability, doesn't somehow also exist on the Ethereal Plane, or that whatever it uses to detect magic, doesn't also perceive into the Ethereal.
 
so.. Oozes don't have brains right? could we create a dozen Cerulean Sign Oozes and release in them in their natural habitat (the cold waters of the north), as a purely neutral act of responsibility towards the life we created, and definitely not an act of war?
Edit: If the plans succeeds, we can expand it to "Wave after wave" of Cerulean sign Oozes.
 
Goldfish said:
I wouldn't be surprised. This entire encounter was obviously crafted to fuck with us to the maximum possible extent without DP treading into Evil DM territory.

That said, I think your plan is overly convoluted and assumes that for some reason the mysterious Living Spell generating fountain, which is just stupidly powerful BTW and puts most canon artifacts to shame with its ability, doesn't somehow also exist on the Ethereal Plane, or that whatever it uses to detect magic, doesn't also perceive into the Ethereal.
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It's free to cast the spell on the Ethereal, since that's a normal function of Greater Blink. I merely want to make sure that we at least took every reasonable precaution to avoid creating a ooze with an high-power combat spell.

das_slash said:
so.. Oozes don't have brains right? could we create a dozen Cerulean Sign Oozes and release in them in their natural habitat (the cold waters of the north), as a purely neutral act of responsibility towards the life we created, and definitely not an act of war?
Edit: If the plans succeeds, we can expand it to "Wave after wave" of Cerulean sign Oozes.
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Always keep in mind that introducing a new species into a ecosystem where it has no natural predators might result in tremendous damage to said ecosystem and quickly drive native species to extinction.
 
TotallyNotEvil said:
Finally it comes into play.

However, those things have 20 HD each, Vee can only Command 10 HD. No chance to even Rebuke them.
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Ah, Pathfinder creature HD...

There's no way DP will let us keep the fountain. We would abuse it so hard that reality might shatter under the weight of the bullshit we would pull, so are there any particular low level Living Spells we might wish to create with it?

Das_slash's idea of Cerulean Sign oozes has merit.
 
Goldfish said:
Ah, Pathfinder creature HD...

There's no way DP will let us keep the fountain. We would abuse it so hard that reality might shatter under the weight of the bullshit we would pull, so are there any particular low level Living Spells we might wish to create with it?

Das_slash's idea of Cerulean Sign oozes has merit.
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Phantom Steed. I wanna see if it actually makes permanent Phantom Steeds.

If DP won't let us keep the fountain he at least better let us get some horses out of this.
 
Goldfish said:
Ah, Pathfinder creature HD...

There's no way DP will let us keep the fountain. We would abuse it so hard that reality might shatter under the weight of the bullshit we would pull, so are there any particular low level Living Spells we might wish to create with it?

Das_slash's idea of Cerulean Sign oozes has merit.
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Mending would be neat, but ultimately those things are not really that much better then just crafting an item fir those low-level spells.

Cerulean Sign, preferably self-replicating.
 
Azel said:
Mending would be neat, but ultimately those things are not really that much better then just crafting an item fir those low-level spells.

Cerulean Sign, preferably self-replicating.
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Yeah, the biggest piece of loot we could get out of this is some Cerulean Sign oozes. We could have them everywhere in the waters of the Stepstones. :D

Great idea, @das_slash.
 
[X] Azel

I unironically love this crowd's instincts.
DP makes a ridiculous home brew artifact level trap pretty clearly designed specifically to fuck us over and a big section of the thread reacts with 'Aaww thanks for the new Shiny DP!'

I agree that he probably won't let us keep it, but that right there is draconic moxie.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Azel on Dec 6, 2017 at 12:54 AM, finished with 125687 posts and 9 votes.
  • [X] Plan Exploit Blink and Loot Fountain
    -[X] Let Dany cast True Seeing on Viserys, before she and all other casters fly up, but stay close enough for Danys auras to affect the ground around you.
    -[X] Viserys uses Blink to pass into the Ethereal Plane and casts Freezing Glance there, before returning and hitting the empowered Bonethorne with the effect.
    -[X] Garin and Waymar go for the positive energy ooze, then attack any frozen Bonethornes.
    -[X] Viserys freezes all Bonethorns and murders things with his Breathweapon and melee attacks.
    [X] Everyone takes to the air, rising to an altitude of at least 200 feet.
    -[X] Once this is done:
    --[X] Tyene casts Panacea on Waymar and Dany casts True Seeing on Viserys.
    --[X] Viserys bombards the entire area with a Firebrand spell. If the spell is used to create another Living Spell, we will have to consider other options. If it is not, Viserys scours the area with Fireball spells until nothing is left but ash.
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Any reason why we don't just kill them all from the air with fire?
They can't fly or jump at all, we don't have to use spells, just Breath and Burst.

No matter if it takes a while, they can't fight back.
 
Artemis1992 said:
Any reason why we don't just kill them all from the air with fire?
They can't fly or jump at all, we don't have to use spells, just Breath and Burst.

No matter if it takes a while, they can't fight back.
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Given their hitpoints, that would take forever, thus costing us a good part of our buffs. There's probably another trap we trigger with that plan.
If the big boss shows up, a single Dispel would be enough to send some of our squishies into the CR 12 mosh pit.

Nuking it from orbit would only be an option if we go to town with Firebrand and Fireball, otherwise we leave ourselves wide open for relation.
 
By the way, can we do a free action next turn to throw some corpses in the Memory Moss cave?

I want our own plant-guardians and that seems like the cheapest and easiest way.
 
I feel like that's not something anyone ever expected to read when picking up a copy of VIserys' Memoirs.

"And then I grew half-angel, half-vegetable pygmies to defend my holdings."

It's like, what the fuck were you smoking when you wrote this, my liege? And where can I get some?

"...Bazaar of Beggars, Molten Skies, beneath the City of Brass. Ask for Rajah El-Amin."
 
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